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Apple Releases Safari 4.0.3

run-kmc said:
Every time I have to reboot just to upgrade a browser, I get that much closer to wiping the whole thing and installing yellowdog. So much easier.
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I take it you've never used Linux, then--I reboot more often than OS X with Ubuntu, and since most of this software is common to most distros (e.g., GNOME, common libraries, etc.), it'd be about the same with any other distro.

Confession: sometimes, I'll hold off on rebooting after updating. For example, I still haven't rebooted after 4.0.2 ... but now I'll just do 4.0.3 and save me one time. 😛
 
I have a MDD Dualie G4. After my initial Safari 4 update I had several minor problems, which I "bug report"ed. The 02 update cleared up most of them, but my un-cached restarts of Safari were still taking in excess of forty seconds. When I restarted after this update I tried to check for this restart time, but my home-page opened before I could look up at my desktop clock.

Is that what they're talking about when they refer to snappy?
 
Safari 4.0.3 crashes on Glims b19

I had the exact same issue on my macbook pro running glims b19 but had no issues running the exact same build on my iMac. Removed b19 and reinstalled b18 and now all is good as described.
 
How bout you fix how much memory it uses and the performance is so laggy I don't know if it's the internet or the browser but all I know My internet is fast.
 
illegallydead said:
Installed a minute ago just fine. Hung on "running installer script" for a while, but nothing too bad and no other problems.



IIRC, it has something to do with the fact that Safari relies on a lot of the same windowing and rendering tools that OSX itself does.... That may be completely wrong however 🙂

It does seem silly, especially when the EU is investigating MS for similar practices of too-tightly integrated browsers...
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Please, you're sounding stupid - stop right there before you cause more damage.

Microsoft were investigated because they they not only bundled but they also forbade OEM's from installing competing browsers, forbade them from modifying the desktop to customise it, forbade them from dual booting the computers they sold. There were a whole host of restrictions - the issue wasn't just bundling but the OEM restrictions imposed ontop which stopped OEM's from bundling a competing browser as to allow customer choice.

So please, don't open your mouth unless you know what you're talking about - stupidity like what you displayed should be illegal under penalty of a public flogging.
 
irule1114 said:
I believe it is because Safari is a core part of the operating system. For example, every time you go to help, you are really looking at Safari with a different UI.

You have to do the same thing with IE for Windows. Just get over it.
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You have been using Windows for too long. Safari is just an application. You can even uninstall it, unlike IE.
 
run-kmc said:
Every time I have to reboot just to upgrade a browser, I get that much closer to wiping the whole thing and installing yellowdog. So much easier.

Of course, since my iphone requires itunes, I'm locked in. Sigh. Time to go get that awesome 0.0.1 upgrade.
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You definitely havent used Linux. X11 needs restarting when you just need to change the resolution. (Im talking a proper system wide one, not those silly single user one that slowly ruins the system) Have fun with Flash, if you thought Mac OSX was bad. Or maybe the bootstrapper. Or the silly little rebuild updates that dont change anything.
 
MorphingDragon said:
You definitely havent used Linux. X11 needs restarting when you just need to change the resolution. (Im talking a proper system wide one, not those silly single user one that slowly ruins the system) Have fun with Flash, if you thought Mac OSX was bad. Or maybe the bootstrapper. Or the silly little rebuild updates that dont change anything.
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You don't need to restart X11 to change the resolution; if you've used Fedora 11, it can be changed on the fly for those drivers that support it.

With that being said - you do have to reboot with Linux, like you said; l whether it is logging out then logging back in or a full reboot.
 
ptsube said:
What's up with all the restarts? Is this Windows?
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PC: "Hi, I'm A PC."
Mac: "And I'm a Mac."
PC: "Wait a minute, Mac. Hold on here. Maybe I am a Mac after all. Gosh, darn it, we look so much a like now a days, it's sometimes difficult to tell..."

Happy Security Fixes And Reboot Day! 😀 :apple: We truly are one. "Kumbaya, My Lord. Kumbaya..."
 
boer said:
You have been using Windows for too long. Safari is just an application. You can even uninstall it, unlike IE.
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You can unistall IE if you want. I tried upgrading to the latest one overtop of the current one, but a bug wouldn't let me use the Google Toolbar. So I unistalled IE all together and got the latest one from scratch.
 
macshill said:
You can unistall IE if you want. I tried upgrading to the latest one overtop of the current one, but a bug wouldn't let me use the Google Toolbar. So I unistalled IE all together and got the latest one from scratch.
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You cant "Uninstall it" in the sense that its so deeply integrated into windows explorer and other components. (Vista and Down)

In europe IE wont be included with 7 (Apparently)
 
I have glims running on 4.03

redking31591 said:
hey everyone,
I just found out if you have glims installed it won't work with safari 4.0.3 so you need to uninstall it with these terminal commands of safari won't start and it will just keep crashing.

sudo rm -rf /Library/InputManagers/Glims/
sudo rm -rf ~/Library/Application\ Support/Glims/
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It seems that only parts of Glims are incompatible with 4.03, since I have glims running, and no problems. However I have not all features of Glims enabled, a suspect for your instability may be "Show Favicon on tab label" which I have deactivated.

Greetings,
Rob E Gad
 
TuffLuffJimmy said:
Someone hasn't kept up with the times. You can now uninstall IE from Windows.
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You cant uninstall it uninstall it. (Remove it 100%, not norton uninstalling) Parts of it are still needed for programing APIs. You can remove the icon out of start menu and files in Program Files. "WINDOWS" folder still has Bits of IE in it.

*Source .Net documentation :S
 
bed said:
keywurl works fine - you just need to change the safari version in the bundle:

- in Finder navigate to ~\library\application support\SIMBL\plugins\
- right click on keywurl.bundle and select "Show package contents"
- go into "contents" folder and open "Info.plist" in a text editor or plist editor
- under the "SIMBLTargetApplications" key theres a MaxBundleVersion key. Change this from 5530 to 5532
- save the file
- restart safari.
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Thank you, it works. 🙂
 
angelwatt said:
Can you name any of those files? The "required" ones for the OS that is. I know about Safari's other files in the Application Support and caches and such.
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/System/Library/Frameworks/WebKit.framework/

Safari is built on top of WebKit. WebKit provides the basic framework for use in other applications, such as Mail.app. Developers can also use WebKit framework to build their own browser based applications, such as NetNewsWire, etc.

That's also why updating Safari requires a reboot. As other said, exclusive access to the frameworks required to update.
 
MorphingDragon said:
You cant uninstall it uninstall it. (Remove it 100%, not norton uninstalling) Parts of it are still needed for programing APIs. You can remove the icon out of start menu and files in Program Files. "WINDOWS" folder still has Bits of IE in it.

*Source .Net documentation :S
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Well then you can't uninstall Safari from OS X, since webkit is so integrated into the OS.
 
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