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I suspect fixing the memory leak bug will help with many issues. In the end though this is a new generation of web browser, once it is fully fleshed out it will be putting far more of your hardware to work, both CPU and GPU cores. As you note below we are already benefiting from a more responsive browser.



They changed Webkit framework to Webkit2. But Webkit2 has loads of problems, although it's more advanced than Webkit. It seems like they rushed it.

For example, With Safari 5.0, when you try to load lots of pages/tabs, then the application itself is not responsive or extremely slow. But in Safari 5.1, you can always use the application menu with full responsiveness even if tons tabs/pages are loading.

That's because the application and the web processes are separated in the API now.

But like I said, the framework is still buggy and it has tons of issues under heavy load. It made some things better and many other things worse. Just give it time.
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but Apple supports a 10-year-old Windows OS in Windows XP.

Yet, their own G5's that were sold brand-new 5 years ago have been abandoned.

I find it interesting as well. Apple is supporting older windows machines better than they are their own newer machines. My old compaq that I bought in '04 can install and run Safari 5.1.2. However, my intel macbook that I bought 3 years ago cannot. I never upgraded IOS because I did not want to take any chances with my adobe suite.

However, given all the problems I have been reading about, it may be a good thing.
 
Is it bad that i'm still running 5.0.5 :p

No. You'e not alone by a long chalk. Stay there!

People still use Safari?

Yes, exclusively.

Soggydog doesn't do it for me. Never has. Probably never will <edit> unless it offers me a sensible way to handle pdfs via preview.

PDF with Safari >= 5.1.x is horrible. No useful context menu, for example. But not only that. Why does Safari not offer a "Open in Preview" for links to PDF-files?

Is this fixed under Snow Leopard? I need to be able to open pdfs easily in preview. Until I can, 5.0.5 is my limit.

<edit> No. Still broken. Back to 5.0.5. :mad:

And the way to do that is to drag safari from your apps folder to the desktop and then delete it and empty the trash. after that, re-install the 10.6.8 combo update. Job done!


<edit 2> Apparently, there are 2 ways to open a pdf from Safari in Preview:

  1. If you hover your cursor over the lower portion of the pdf while it's open in Safari, one of the options on the transparent pop-up is to open in preview.
  2. If you select a portion of the pdf while it's open in Safari, even merely one word, then the contextual menu contains the options that I'm used to seeing, including open in preview.

Cool!
 
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I guess I like the feeling that I know OS X doesn't need to be restarted every so often as compared to my Win7 PC at the office.

I haven't restarted my windows 7 PC at work in 3 months... I have restarted my MBA probably over 20 times in that period (mainly due to an EFI issue).
 
Not to beat a dead horse, but Apple supports a 10-year-old Windows OS in Windows XP.

Yet, their own G5's that were sold brand-new 5 years ago have been abandoned.

They don't make any money if people upgrade from XP to Windows 7. Refusing to upgrade my Mac OS after a couple of years, just so that I could use some current software was a big reason why I sold my MacBook.
 
But Aple still support updates to Safari for XP and 7. They don't do the same for their own software/hardware.

That's exactly the point inlovewithi was trying to make - Apple doesn't stand to gain any benefit from people upgrading from XP --> W7, so they keep supporting old Windows editions to get maximum market share (to possibly convert people to Mac OS?)... However, since they kill support for Apple hardware sooner, it "forces" people already in the Mac OS ecosystem to upgrade and they make more money.
 
I remember people used to watch their uptime and try to set new records back when 47 days was an incredible achievement.

For production environments and for things like a database server uptime is something to be acutely aware of. It used to be not that uncommon to have an Oracle server up for a year or year and a half between reboots. That's changed for me because of quarterly patch releases from Oracle and/or other fixes lots of them security related.

For a desktop or laptop though ... uptime not really something that I consider as important.
 
Won't load Google. Firefox will. Was hoping this would fix this annoying problem. Will try Chrome for awhile and check that out.

Hmm, no problem here. I would think that if Safari could not open Google you would hear a cachophony of complaints.
 
Did you try a cache reset or other functions reset?

Menu bar>>Reset Safari.

Thanks, yes I did. Have been all over the internet looking for answer. I found references to bogus Adobe Flash downloads and some people have reported some sort of redirect, which I don't have. I trashed everything Flash that I could find.

I do have some sort of domain code 303 thing. Google is the only site that won't open for me, as far as I can tell. That makes me think it is some sort of malware.

Any help is appreciated.
 
I haven't restarted my windows 7 PC at work in 3 months...

There's been a bunch of windows 7 updates in the last 3 months ... ya gotta keep those systems up to date. Perhaps though at work something is pushing out updates to you and applying/restarting on nights/weekends.
 
Ironically, after updating, I just got my first white flash! I've never had it before. I think this update CAUSED the white flash! LOL
 
Yeah, Safari is my least favorite web browser on the Mac. Probably because of all the bugs that I've experienced. I've had issues with Careers.com's javascript and reported it to Apple but it still isn't fixed after two years. Oh well, Firefox and Chrome work just peachy. :)
 
Ugh. I still can't view PDFs in Safari after updating, even though I've tried every fix I've googled since the problem arose. :(
 
Can anyone explain more about the PDF changes? Is this about embedded PDFs? Because loading standalone .pdf files in Safari has always worked fine for me.
 
Well, let us see. A. I can use Chrome and have it call home to the mothership every five minutes. B. I can use Firefox that doesn't adequately support Mac features, like gestures. C. I can use Safari that works pretty darn good, doesn't call home, and if you use gestures you can save a lot of time and have fun flipping through webpages. I will go with C. Nonetheless, I hate that Safari doesn't put the tabs on top or at least give us the option.

People still use Safari?
 
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