Probably still using the 128kbps calculation they've always used.. but they might have to update that.
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Apple Releases Smaller 4GB iPod Shuffle in Black and Silver
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Probably still using the 128kbps calculation they've always used.. but they might have to update that.
But wouldn't the adapter puts the controls basically back on the ipod. This shuffle will be a hard sell to people who don't want to use the stock ear buds.
Plus what will the adapter cost? $20?? then it starts to push it closer to the 8GB nano price range.
I really mean no disrespect, but put aside the playlist, voiceover and power sequences and you really only have 3 to deal with which is pretty simple.
- Play/Pause: Single click
- Go to next track: Double click
- Go to previous track: Triple click
*Song capacity is based on 4 minutes per song and 128-Kbps AAC encoding; in 256-Kbps AAC format, song capacity is up to 500 songs; actual capacity varies by encoding method and bit rate.
Does it also strip album art? Isn't that embedded into each or is that separate?
If you're considering a nano, then you shouldn't be looking at the shuffle. The nano is a far superior device and well worth the extra cost. The shuffle is a niche market device but has broad appeal. Besides getting one just to have one, there are specific needs why people buy the shuffle over the nano.
I look at the added cost of the remote adapter not on the cost of the shuffle, rather a cost of using my higher-end earbuds. I'm also hoping that this adapter will work on other iPods. The only down-side to the adapter (without seeing it) is I'll have a bunch of extra cord to deal with. Hopefully it will have built-in cord wrap and clip.
Agreed. It will be awkward using an "adapter/remote" with such a small device. The new shuffle looks really cool and I probably would have sold my previous 1 GB shuffle to buy the new one, but then I realize there are no buttons! The old one was very small, and the controls are perfectly intuitive. Maybe the adapter won't be so bad and will come with the iPod..who knows.
The 2 colors look great, and I love the design. I want to see what this "adapter" looks like and how it works. Will it work with the iPhone as well?
Exactly. Sorry Apple, this seems like a really poor product upgrade. I see no reason to choose this over a 2G shuffle. The 2G's controls are very easy to use, you don't have to deal with voice interaction, it takes any set of headphones, and for that matter the 2G isn't even much larger. The new one seems to be nothing more than thinner for the sake of being thinner, in line with Apple's weird obsession.
i wish it had a USB drive on the end like the 1st gen... otherwise it looks great!
Bring back USB stick shuffle!
Bring back USB stick shuffle!
Not sure if this has been said yet. to lazy to read through 1000 posts . Now they make it so you can't use it in the car. How can you control it.
. Now they make it so you can't use it in the car. How can you control it.Dumbest Apple design EVER
LOL this thing actually looks like a spoof making fun of Apple. They actually designed a Shuffle (THE running iPod) so that you HAVE to use those earbuds that fall out (and sound awful) not to mention trying to grab that cord as it's flopping all over the place while you're running?! LOLOLOLOL MAKE IT STOP! DUMBEST APPLE DESIGN EVER.
LOL this thing actually looks like a spoof making fun of Apple. They actually designed a Shuffle (THE running iPod) so that you HAVE to use those earbuds that fall out (and sound awful) not to mention trying to grab that cord as it's flopping all over the place while you're running?! LOLOLOLOL MAKE IT STOP! DUMBEST APPLE DESIGN EVER.
Do you? Have you gone shopping for new earbuds lately on Amazon? Due to the popularity of the iPod, I actually had to pay extra to get non-white earbuds the last time I bought new earphones. Used to be black was standard, and colors were more since they were less common. Now white is considered normal earphone color.
Just because lots of people are wearing white earphones doesn't mean lots of people are using Apple's crappy earphones.
Keep in mind we're talking about a consumer group that doesn't see anything wrong with paying more for their headphones than for their music player itself *cough*Shure*cough*.The fact that the headphones in question will cost $99.99 and models to come later will "range in price from $49.99 to 99.99" would be my next argument. Having to buy a new headset entirely is even less economic than buying an adapter.
One thing that I thought of, if a third-party makes a remote/adapter, will they have to follow Apple's one-button controller? I mean, they could make a remote with more buttons, and when you push the "next track" button on their remote, it just sends the correct Apple morse-code presses over the cable to the Shuffle? That would be really wild; a third-party iPod remote that's easier to use than Apple's.
I like the stainless steel clip on it, and the size is great for my workouts (less mass jumping up and down) but I personally don't need this "Small Talk" feature so what I like to know is: can you switch it off, and can you select a language for it?
Yeah, but what happens if you lose the Shuffle but still have the headphones? You'll defintely have to pay a similar price to get a whole new Shuffle.
People who use this at gym and thinks putting the remote on the earbud wire is convenient, think again.
When you are running, your body will constantly move. When you try to do so many clicks with the remote on the wire when your body is moving, I bet you will pull the earbud out of your ear. You know how bad Apple earbud are when it comes to sticking in your ear. They fell out of my ear all the time.
When you are running, your body will constantly move. When you try to do so many clicks with the remote on the wire when your body is moving, I bet you will pull the earbud out of your ear. You know how bad Apple earbud are when it comes to sticking in your ear. They fell out of my ear all the time.
yup, i'm in canada and the new iMacs and Shuffles have gone up in price by a ton. I could slightly understand the price raise in the new iMacs, potentially cause our dollar is doing so badly. But, $69 iPod Shuffle to $99 CAN? Give me a break Apple.
Oh, plus IMO Apple totally lost their edge of 'simplicity' in this iPod Suffle release. I was watching the 'guided tour' and after a while I was lost in the explanation of some of the controls.
Shuffle gives you the option to convert to 128kbps when syncing with itunes right?
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To all the people who are complaining that they wont buy the new shuffle because you want to use your own headphones, just a reminder that old shuffle still works. And my local electrical store still has the old shuffle in all the old shuffle colours for sale.
If you don't like the latest and greatest technology, there's nobody forcing you to buy it.
ddTaylor said:I love how you now can't use any other headphones that don't have a controller on them.
Not far off the iPod flee spoof now
I agree. I have a pair of studio ear buds that were twice the price of the shuffle and if I cannot use them I will not buy the shuffle. I want the shuffle for the gym as the 2GB was to small in storage (I work out a couple of hours a day and that is not enough to store my jazz collection for working out). Without the ability to use my own headphones this is a non-starter. What is Apple thinking? How many people do you know that use the stock, uncomfortable Apple ear buds? Not many in my neck of the woods! They sound like garbage (relatively speaking) and do fit in every ear. I guess I am waiting for Apple to release a $20 adapter that allows for use of your own headphones.
I am seriously disappointed in the direction Apple has taken recently. Why give consumers LESS choice when using your product that more? Oh well - I guess I keep using the larger Nano and while it works well enough it does not meet the size requirements.
My son has been saving up his birthday money and allowance for almost 6-months to get an iPod and the Shufle is not large enough in capacity to keep his music files for long trips and the headphones are a NON STARTER for my son OR daughter as they do not fit in their ears properly and my daughter need earphones due to a hearing issue. The Nano is more expensive that he can afford and larger than he would like (not to mention the cost associated with the Nano - as these are children so it is not inconceivable it would be lost or damaged). A real disappointment - I am sure I will be labeled as someone who has no forethought and should live with it and buy something else - that seems to be the MO on these forums lately. If you do not like something Apple releases you are nothing but an ill-informed curmudgeon. Sad, really sad. I have already started to see this attitude during this thread already - and there are only two pages of comments!
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To all the people who are complaining that they wont buy the new shuffle because you want to use your own headphones, just a reminder that old shuffle still works. And my local electrical store still has the old shuffle in all the old shuffle colours for sale.
If you don't like the latest and greatest technology, there's nobody forcing you to buy it.
From CNET:
The only controls on the device itself are the on/off switch and the shuffle/llnear switch, Joswiak said. Apple will ship its own in-ear headphones with the Shuffle, but third-parties will be able to make their own headphones that have the controls, and they'll also make adapters that will let you use the controls with existing headphones, he said.
Whew! I mean, yeah, ya still gotta buy 'em, but...
The only controls on the device itself are the on/off switch and the shuffle/llnear switch, Joswiak said. Apple will ship its own in-ear headphones with the Shuffle, but third-parties will be able to make their own headphones that have the controls, and they'll also make adapters that will let you use the controls with existing headphones, he said.
Whew! I mean, yeah, ya still gotta buy 'em, but...
I agree. The people that use shuffles most of the time are not looking for the highest quality available. The people that I know that use the shuffle just for music use the original buds, and the ones that use them in the gym could benefit from the easier to access controls.
I knew something like that would happen. If you give them time they will release things that are needed. When you jump to conclusions on the day of release of something like a shuffle, you get mad over things that will probably fixed/addressed. Just calm down. It is just an iPod.