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Apple HD TV?

:confused: New TV-like screen sizes, no 24", screen to the edge, wireless KB, no numeric keypad, gesture enabled mouse,...

This is the closest Apple has been to building an actual TV set.

Is this the "TV of the Future" ?
 
Does this mean new ACDs at 21.5" and 27" then...? *drool*

Oh don't worry ...

- The 27-inch iMac supports video input via its DisplayPort connector, allowing the machine to be used as a display for external sources.

^ I'd LOVE for this feature to make it down to ALL models because my future MacBook/MBP Unibody's will be able to use the desktop machine as a screen.

I really wished that the Core i5 made it as the base line cpu ... but that will have to wait until July 2010. Strange that someone created their version of this a few weeks ago on these forums and was just about spot ON!:eek:

Does this mean used Intel Aluminum iMac's become cheaper now?
 
Would it be possible to build a ssd into the new iMac?

Apple certainly could have designed it...I've had a SSD in my netbook for over a year now.

Most likely Apple did not because:

cost is still high
SSDs capacities are still relatively small (128GB current max I've seen)
People don't want to own a NEW "desktop" that has only 128GB or even 256GB of drive space

-Eric
 
The meaning of the 27" 2560x1440.

Now i realize the meaning of the 27" 2560x1440.

It is for 1280x720 (720p) HD x 2! It means every pixel in the 720p film will light up 2x2 = 4 pixels on this new screen. So you can stand far away and watch low rez HD!

What an expensive way of doing it! Four times the required processing power, drivers, screen resolution etc.

Is this really a great idea? I should have preferred a 27" 1920x1080 and sit further away from the screen. Great on the desk so I could use the desk for papers etc in front of the screen.
 
Does this now render the Apple Cinema displays useless? Anyone considering an mac mini - led display combo will now just get the iMac, and people on the fence about getting a laptop + display or iMac will now probably settle on the iMac because of the display?
 
Just got mine .... would have like the 27 inch, but being a college student and not having that much money sucks lol and buying a MacBook pro 2 months ago didn't help my bank account either :)

Student discount knocked $50 for me too, so always a nice help.


 
Yes there are.

But they will not let you play a commercial BD and show it on your new HD iMac screen!

Those external BD players are only to be used for data storage when used to a Mac.

They will not playback lossless HD sound either like Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master audio.

At least I would like to produce BD on my Mac Pro and deliver it to clients with iMac via BD.

I also would like to use my computer as storage for HD films and be able to playback them in full HD to our projector. I feel a little crippled now with Mac when all PC cousins are able to play BD full HD films ...

Its called VLC people. Its a wonderful piece of software.
 
Here we go again...I have to explain every single solitary thing because people can't be imaginative.

APPLE ONLY SELLS 1 DESKTOP COMPUTER SYSTEM: THE iMAC. Period. Make sense so far?
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You may want to reply back to me telling me to buy the Mini...
-Eric
I don't want to get into yet another Mac versus PC prices debate, and you make some valid points, but I say to each his own.

However, you lead with a rather silly statement that "Apple only sells 1 desktop computer system: the iMac. Period." and then you bring up the Mac mini. You contradict yourself in the very same post. I know where you're going, in your opinion the iMac is the only Mac desktop, but that doesn't make it the "1 desktop...Period."

More correctly, Apple sells three desktop systems. The Mac mini, the iMac, and the Mac Pro. If you want to make further distinction -- they sell two more-or-less traditional desktops and one all-in-one design. The point that you consider them expensive in comparison to PCs doesn't change that fact.
 
Im so jealouse i wish i could afford one i guess i have to save up
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Maybe i am not the first but...

Gizmodo says this new imacs has video in!

The mini displayport output also works as a HDCP video input!

The iMac has a new trick, too—its DisplayPort can turn it into a second screen, receiving video (but not audio) input from DVD players or a MacBook. Apple said it was HDCP compliant so it should be fine for watching Blu-rays on, via the port, via a separate player.

http://gizmodo.com/5385841/apple-imac-hands-on

Can be this one of the features apple says that their customers have been waiting for long?

Newer MacBook - yes
DVD or Blu-ray player - not so much

Until people test out this input, it appears to be limited DisplayPort signals. So, unless you happen across a DisplayPort-equipped DVD or Blu-ray player (I don't believe they exist yet), you're out of luck. VESA hopes that DisplayPort will eventually supplant DVI and HDMI, so this may not be an issue in a few years.
 
'Luxury products', if there is a distinction at all, are supposed to be perfected. Perfecting things takes time, therefore luxury products cannot be cutting edge.

How much time does Apple need? They are never up to speed on graphics, ever. As far as Bluray, the Apple of yesteryear would have been the first company to drop DVD and move to Bluray, being the company with the guts to do something different. Not this Apple, they play it soooo safe. Can't blame them though, when they sleep on a bed of cash and wipe their arses with benjamins.
 
You can't be serious. Make the damn thing an OPTION. You don't want BD, don't check off the box, the people that want BD do. How difficult was that ? Is this truly so hard to understand ?

The most expensive computers can't include BD option because it would, uh, make them expensive ? :confused:

You can get a 16" Sony Vaio with BD for $650.

Just give it up. The "if it's not avialable on a Mac, you don't need it," absurdity has been exposed for the stupid, fraudulent argument that it is. Stop defending the indefensible. Apple will survive without it.

It does not have a BluRay drive. That is just the way it is. Get over it.

No argument will make the BluRay appear, so quit moaning. Like with any product in the world this comes down to many aspects, and I am sure apple know more about making computers than you do - so they made the call.. they obviously thought your desperate need for BluRay was not worth stressing about. They made $1bn this quarter.... did you?
 
btw

27-inch iMac
RemoveMove to Saved Items
Ships: November
Part number: Z0GF
Configuration
2.8GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
4GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x2GB
1TB Serial ATA Drive
ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB

$2199

Mac Pro Quad-Core
RemoveMove to Saved Items
Ships: Within 24hrs
Part number: MB871LL/A
Configuration
One 2.66GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
3GB (3x1GB)
640GB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s
NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512MB

$2499

oh apple.

I'm very pleased with that. The iMac offers a lot more value to someone like me who came very close to buying a second display earlier this week.

The high end iMac for me is the "iMac Pro".

Couldn't be happier. I find I don't care about Blu-Ray at this point, either. I'll get that if I need it.
 
Apple certainly could have designed it...I've had a SSD in my netbook for over a year now.

Most likely Apple did not because:

cost is still high
SSDs capacities are still relatively small (128GB current max I've seen)
People don't want to own a NEW "desktop" that has only 128GB or even 256GB of drive space

-Eric

You misunderstood me, in other words, I just wanted to know, if it'd be possible to open the iMac, building a ssd into it or upgrading the memory.
 
No one has said that they aren't Lynnfields. I simply challenged those who ascribed them as desktop parts merely on the point of operating frequencies. That's an unreliable method. A clear look at the specs tells you it's Lynnfield. People were only quoting clock speeds only, which is bad practice. On top of that, they made pricing, and overclocking vs. TDP interrelation assumptions.

Pricing is set by Intel. Don't look at the 920QM and think "ooooh, it costs Intel almost 1000 to make!" No, it costs no more than what the 820QM takes to make, yet is priced at half the 920. They just bin and price it differently due to performance in test.

TDP is another unreliable figure. People assume that the part cannot be overclocked because it would simply fail. Laptop parts are designed with specific TDP and voltage requirements in mind. In an iMac enclosure, you can loosen those. Up the frequency and voltage and get the performance you want out of a mobile part with acceptable TDP rise. It's not hard.

Simply look at the specs. If you match the frequency with naming (i5/i7), cache amounts, and features (HT, non-HT), it's easy to accurately tell that they are Lynnfield, not just guess based on nominal clock frequency.

Blha blah blah. I know how binning works. I never said it cost Intel 1,000 to make, I said IT cost $1,000. And that same $1,000 price, regardless of what Intel made it for, is the same for all its customers, including Apple. Apple might get a price break because of the deals they have in place but thats beside the point. The point is you kept saying it could be an overclocked mobile part and my point is that was a stupid assumption because the mobile parts are slower, are more expensive, have a lower TDP, have different turbo modes and are all i7s. The minute apple announced these, anyone with logic and deduction skills could see they were Lynnfields. PS there are no mobile lynnfields, they are called Clarksfield and they have completely different sockets.


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Simply look at the specs. If you match the frequency with naming (i5/i7), cache amounts, and features (HT, non-HT), it's easy to accurately tell that they are Lynnfield, not just guess based on nominal clock frequency
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Lol thats what everyone else did, myself included, but you! We all said that already and you were the one saying there wasn't enough evidence to support they were desktop chips. Look at you pull a 180 and state the obvious after looking like an idiot, Lol
 
No argument will make the BluRay appear, so quit moaning.
Actually, discussion brings about change. And this site (along with a few others) are pretty visible in the Apple world. You think that when the company releases a new product, they don't jump on forums to see how they've been received? Jobs is too narcissistic not to.

Anyway, all he was asking for was a BTO option which I think is totally reasonable. If you don't want one yourself, great... they don't have them. But there's no sense in being a troll just because you don't think there is value in a feature that someone else finds worthwhile.
 
Mounting kit, etc.

There is a mounting kit available on Apple's website. Now for my 2 cents worth. I've been a PC guru since 1984 and have had all of M$ courses for 3.1, NT, 2000, XP and Vista. I was always anti-Apple (forgive me) until 3 years ago when I bought a MacBook Pro 17. WOW! I still have to work with PCs everyday as a site LAN coordinator, fixing, installing etc. I've been waiting for my Dell to go south. With all of the anti-virus software, my 2.4 Ghz older Dell takes up to 35 minutes to totally boot and start using due to the aforementioned anti-virus stuff. WIN 7 is just a fixed VISTA (been testing VISTA for over 3 years at work) and the underpinning is still DOS, EXCUSE ME! I've had zero, none, nil, etc problems with Snow Leopard. Out of the blue, last evening, my wife gave approval for a new iMac. I told her I would wait until the new ones were available. Like, holy mother of MAC, we be thrilled:D. I'm not really disappointed about blu-ray. That's why I have a large Sony XBR7 and a blu-ray player in the living room. None of my friends or family have blu-ray. And yes, I have an iCave, currently shared with the wife and her Sony HDTV. Move over darling, my iMac screen is larger than yours. I can't wait for the November shipping. Way to go Apple!
 
Looks pretty nice with the exception of only 4 USB ports. That is simply not enough nowadays, even the tiny Mac Mini has 5 of them. 6 would be appropriate, and I could use them all. Yeah, I know you can get an external USB expander, but that's clunky and goes against the elegant simplicity the iMac is supposed to bring.
 
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