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They're back and with huge discounts. Take a look at the previous generation 3.06 for $1349, formerly $2199.

I really wish I hadn't seen that. It is so tempting, as is the $429 mini.

EDIT: WAS the mini, they never last long in the refurb store.

I'm afraid that what I really want now as my next purchase is something like the HP MediaSmart EX490 to consolidate my home storage, backups an media. Even the new mini server isn't really what I need, and much as I'd like to I can't justify a Mac Pro to serve a bunch of disks.

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but people buy them because they think they're worth it.

I have to agree with you 100% there, I am a first time mac buyer and am just about to order myself a iMac and I have spent a large amount of time researching and finding out just what else is on offer... This is also nearly the most I have spent on a computer (over £2000) and although the price tag is high to me they are worth it in every way and I cannot wait to get my hands on it, everything just seems perfect.

Sure they do not have BR or Matte screens which some people want, but to some people they are happy with what they have on offer. :)
 
I'd hate to think what your house is like - no nice objects, just dull, functional boxes.

Saying a computer is only a tool is like saying a car is just an object that gets you from A to B.

+1. It's funny how the anti-Apple folks are so adamant about the complete unimportance of industrial design in computing yet probably feel completely different about automobiles, architecture, furniture, clothing, etc. Just their hate for Apple bubbling to the surface I suppose. If anyone else (Dell, HP, etc.) had any focus whatsoever on industrial design, these folks would suddenly appreciate its importance.

The "We Hate Apple" crowd have an RDF of their own.
 
Star Trek Images

Surely the Star Trek images were taken when they thought Blu Ray was going to be part of the marketing campaign. It will be one of the biggest selling Blu Ray discs at Christmas.
 
Quad core, good.

Lack of FW400 and (wishful thinking) eSATA = FAIL.

SD slot? So lame.

I would've purchased this had it not been for these flaws. Too bad.
 
Surely the Star Trek images were taken when they thought Blu Ray was going to be part of the marketing campaign. It will be one of the biggest selling Blu Ray discs at Christmas.

I agree. The section of the new iMac promotional video that talks up the joys of watching 1080P content (and shows numerous hollywood blockbusters) on the new iMac in glorious 16:9 has a strong flavor of blu-ray to it.

I agree with the previous person who commented that Steve probably told them to drop it just to screw with us Mactards.

Then release it in April/May of next year and cause an entire new round of buying since Macs finally have blu-ray disc.
 
Why not? You will get a slightly better picture than watching the same DVD on a typical 27" TV screen with say 1368 x 768 resolution.

DVDs problems extend far beyond resolution. It has a far lower color gamut, poorer contrast, etc, etc, etc, as compared to BD.

It more or less is on par with the 720P HD-Lite compressed download options though as long as the DVD is properly upscaled.
 
Something thats has not been talked about much concerning the new iMac is how did apple get thousands and thousands into storage in the U.S. without anyone taking notice? I ordered one yesterday and it was on the way the same day meaning they have been sitting here for awhile. Are they all in plain brown boxes labeled top secret?:D

No, they are all in plain brown boxes labeled "Dell" so nobody gets curious :D
 
I'm buying a 21.5" in November, when I drive through Delaware... where there is no sales tax at the Apple store.
 
I think the new mouse is really smart
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43 years in the computer industry but still don't know how to build your own PC?

Any sane system admin doesn't build PC's for their company in a large scale, and he probably buys pre-builts because of warranties and probably a discount.

I'm sure he can build his own PC's though.

I used to regularly build my own, but with as cheap as a decent spec'd machine coupled with lack of time dealing with it, I don't really care to. I still build one-offs at work every once and awhile though.
 
Oh please, this "size" argument that Apple fans try to use has never worked and it never will. Maybe if Apple gave consumers actual CHOICES then it could work. But right now if I want a desktop I have 3 choices from Apple. A Mac mini, which is extremely low-end and extremely overpriced for the power. Theres the iMac, which is a laptop on a stand. Then theres the Mac Pro, which is also extremely overpriced and offers extremely limited expandability.

So comparing a tower PC to an iMac is a perfectly fair comparison since Apple does not even give you the choice of having such a system.
That's like saying "Let's compare the storage space of a Ford pickup to a Mercedes SUV. Even though they're different classes of vehicles, Mercedes doesn't offer a pickup, so it must be a fair comparison".

Again, a PC is not a fashion accessory. A computer is a tool.
You seem to think that a well designed product is synonymous to a fashion accessory, and thus has no value to "real" computer users. Look at it this way, though: if I'm going to have to carry around and stare at a notebook computer for the next three years, I might as well buy one that's pleasant to look at and doesn't weigh much, because no matter what Mac or PC you buy now, there's still going to be a faster one in a few months. In fact, unless you're willing to spend a stupid amount of money on hardware, there will always be a faster computer.

Of course, trying to argue the virtues of product design to someone only concerned with their processor's clockspeed is like explaining the difference between red and green to someone who is colorblind.

$1299 at HP gets you an 18.4" screen, Core i7, 4GB DDR, 320GB 7200 RPM, 1GB GeForce GT 230, blu-ray, HDMI, all that good stuff.
How is that even remotely portable? And why is there this continued obsession with HDMI? Apple has already moved on to DisplayPort... they're not about to go back. If you had you're way we'd all still have VGA and floppy drives on our computers. God forbid we try to move on.

Still more difficult to service the current MacBook and Pro line compared to a PC.
Now you're just making sweeping generalizations. I've taken apart laptop PCs that are far more difficult to take apart than the current MacBooks.

First, that's Lenovo's fault. Second, why didn't you check to see who manufactured your soundcard before reformatting? Third, why didn't you just open Windows update? Windows Update will install all of the drivers for your system.
Why should I have to check to see who manufactured the soundcard in the system? (And why should I check *before* reformatting? Would your solution be to not reformat?) The point is, you said drivers weren't an issue, and I provided a counter-example (for an OEM PC, too). And thanks, but Windows Update didn't bother to install the drivers. I guess Macs aren't the only system with flaws.

I guess we have different requirements for "quality". When it comes to movies, blu-ray is as low as I'll go now. For TV, theres no way I'd go back to cable or downloading from iTunes when DirecTV and FiOS look so much better.
I'm just saying that increasingly fast broadband connections will eventually allow for streaming HD that matches the quality of Bluray.

The best part about NOT having a tacky all-in-one thats more fashion accessory than computer is that you can overclock that CPU.
Again, I think you fail to understand the target demographic of the iMac. Very few people are actually concerned with overclocking their CPU.

Given the choice of running wires behind their desk for video and sound, and then plugging all these things in, why not just sacrifice some performance (which they probably won't use anyways) for a nicer form factor?

Taking your argument to the extreme, why don't you put a couple of servers and rackmount RAIDs under your desk? You'll have so many CPUs to send jobs off too, and so much space, too! Plus, you'll have all that server grade hardware, which is so easy to service and replace... And it's not that noisy.

Honestly, if you care about performance that much, why would you even bother with the iMac? Buy a workstation, a Mac Pro, or build some insanely fast gaming rig.

For the price of one Apple display you can get two higher quality displays for a PC, and thanks to Windows proper multi-display support, you can actually use both at the same time.
What is this improper multi-display support in OS X that you speak of (no snark intended; I'm genuinely curious).
 
I don't even have to build my own system to beat Apple at price. If I go to Dell or HP or any other number of manufacturers I can still build a system that outperforms the $1,999 Core i5 iMac for several
hundred dollars less.

>snip<

Just buy a PC. It sounds like macs in general aren't for you.

Just for reference, I configured a Dell Studio XPS with similar specs - core i7 3 Ghz - (they had no 2.8 and the base was only 2.6) 4 GB ram, 1 TB HD and a 27 inch monitor - and it came out to $2500.

Let's say I manage to get 10% off at Dell. That still only brings it down to about the same price as the iMac 27 with core i7.

Looks like Apple's got Dell beat on this one. :D

I use computer's as a tool like you, but if it comes down to the same price for both, I'm picking the prettier one. ;)
 
In your 2.5 year ago previous post, you was complaining that your lousy HP laptop...spyware...malware..blah blah...AND THAT'S WHY U TURNED YOURSELF TO MAC...what!?

AND NOW...in this post....You was saying that Window is damn safe after Win 95 in this post, but 2.5 years ago when you start using your macbook white, you are so pleased that the Macbook/MacOSX was clean n easy n safe.

You are contradicting yourself.

I'm really sorry for you....you don't enjoy any machine that you use...

Notice how he said he can't do real work in OS X, but yet can't say what that "real work" is?

By all his posts ranting about video stuff, you'd think he was a professional movie watcher, or film critic. :D

To say Windows hasn't had a problem with viruses or malware since Windows 95 is positively blind and misinformed, and shows a complete lack of understanding of the industry. I'd like to visit whatever vacuum he's located in, to see what this blissful world is like.

I really like Windows 7. It's a great OS, and it's certainly faster than Vista, and safer than XP.

But to make statements about malware like that are so hysterical, they're borderline sad.

Don't worry though, he'll run away again until the next Apple announcement, to spew the same crap again, i.e. personal anecdotes as fact, OS X isn't stable, Windows can do this and that, blah blah blah
 
I just wish someone would come out with a 27in monitor with this res. I can't afford a 30in display, and a 24in is starting to feel too small for me. And every 27in monitor around has a 1920x1080 res which I hate.

sounds perfect! Id love a 27" monitor with this res, but ill probably end up just buying a 2nd 24" cheapo TN

I really wish i was in the market for a new desktop.

I especially like that it seems that the front face and the rear are a single aluminium brick, at least it looks that way. My only criticism of the design would be the tiny chunk of overlap from the side. The "edge to edge" glass meant that to keep the chin in the same line as the glass gives it a 3 or 4 mm kick in the aluminium. Its the most minor niggle, but its something I spotted straight off. Having said that, i dont know how they would go about resolving that without returning to the aluminium bezel.
 
I'm just saying that increasingly fast broadband connections will eventually allow for streaming HD that matches the quality of Bluray.

The quality of Blu-Ray video is about 45 mb per second. That is a LOOOOONG way off from having an equivalent download in the USA.
 
I really like Windows 7. It's a great OS, and it's certainly faster than Vista, and safer than XP.

Yup, me too, I love Window 7 as well.
I just sold my 2006 iMac, 5 weeks ago!
A real good time to get an new 27 inch core i7 iMac!
Finally I can enjoy both Mac OSX and Window!
 
It now uses one battery instead of three. :p

The rubber antenna chunk is also in the centre instead of the left hand side (depending on which way you are looking at it) I wonder if there is a software update that increases the battery efficiency of the old model too? I dont have a problem with three batteries as long as it lasts three times longer!
 
As a life long Apple buyer- I don't like where Apple is going at all. My first mac was the all in one Classic but most thereafter were tower models- either Power Macs or Performas and having a tower is nothing but a benefit. Apple is taking this design nonsense to new ridiculous levels that provide no tangible advantage to computing. Either make the iMac enclosure big enough to support modern up to the date compenents or build a non Pro tower.

I don't really get the effort to make the iMac so pretty. If it was a tower, it they wouldn't need to focus so much on the exterior of the box since it would be out of sight more than likely. Make an attractive monitor (which they already do) and problem solved. Plus, they could use cheaper desktop grade internals and it's a win win.

I'll wait for the revision that'll hopefully be cheaper and/or bring the i5 down to the $1699 price point and keep my fingers crossed for Blu-ray. I damn sure wouldn't spend $2000-2200 for an i5/i7 with having a blu-ray drive.

I'm curious to know how an upscaled DVD will look on the 27" monster. I don't even like upscaled 480p DVD on my 1440x900 screen as is. Plenty of artifacts and jaggies.
 
Yup, me too, I love Window 7 as well.
I just sold my 2006 iMac, 5 weeks ago!
A real good time to get an new 27 inch core i7 iMac!
Finally I can enjoy both Mac OSX and Window!

Yeah I am running Snow Leopard and Windows 7 RC on my 15" MacBook Pro, and both run really well. Microsoft did a great job redeeming themselves with Win7, and the competition will be good for everyone.

So far I've been liking their free AV too, which (sorry Mosx) is required for Windows usage. It's much lighter weight than any of the big AV companies.
 
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