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ROFL, just played with my mates new iPhone 4g in Australia. Put my thumb on the little part connecting the antenna. BOOM No effect (hardly), turns out that Australian mobile network is more powerful than the American one? Who would have known.

same man, my mates iPhone 4 is flawless! Getting mine next week, hope I have no issues too.
 
The videos were doctored. E.g., n97 mini was in energy saving mode in which the antenna software behaves differently than under normal operation. Droid X was apparently not in 3G network in the first place.

That was the whole point! iPhone 4 would not attenuate in great 3g or edge areas. No 3g or very weak edge areas are the problem. If At&t had a strong 3g or edge coverage everywhere, this attenuation would NOT be an issue!! So, apple put other points in a situation where there is bad coverage under verizon, tmobile, or whatever area coverage.
 
Hell yes go away. I just cannot believe how many folks come to MacRumors who have not interest in owning anything Apple. I went to several Android forums and just expected the 15 year olds that are Apple fanboys would be posting all sorts of negative crap. But no, hardly a one. Is it that these Apple haters don't have jobs or what? It is incredible. Just go to other phone or computer forums and look for Apple fans to be posting crap. Hard to find. It is actually a waste of time to read MacRumors forums, most of the posters add nothing. Sorry I wasted my time again. Really.

It's because, deep down inside, those "folk" really want an iPhone badly but for whatever reason - wife won't let them, stuck in a Verizon contract, iPhone perceived as somehow emasculating - they just can't get there. So, when you really hate the life you have, one way to feel better is by trying to make others feel as inadequate as you.

That's really all it is. Today while I was in my car I looked up a fun song I heard earlier and downloaded it to my iTunes while I was playing other music in the background, checking the weather satellite, and responding to an email from my business partner. The iPhone has excellent multitasking, the best smartphone UI on the planet, and it's one damn sexy piece of hardware. Unless you're locked into a contract on another carrier, married to a witch, or prefer geeky over practical and effective, why would anyone ever choose an Android smartphone over an iPhone? :)
 
It's because, deep down inside, those "folk" really want an iPhone badly but for whatever reason - wife won't let them, stuck in a Verizon contract, iPhone perceived as somehow emasculating - they just can't get there. So, when you really hate the life you have, one way to feel better is by trying to make others feel as inadequate as you.

That's really all it is. Today while I was in my car I looked up a fun song I heard earlier and downloaded it to my iTunes while I was playing other music in the background, checking the weather satellite, and responding to an email from my business partner. The iPhone has excellent multitasking, the best smartphone UI on the planet, and it's one damn sexy piece of hardware. Unless you're locked into a contract on another carrier, married to a witch, or prefer geeky over practical and effective, why would anyone ever choose an Android smartphone over an iPhone? :)

I had to make the choice of iPhone 4 or else. I chose the HTC EVO and Sprint because I get 4G in my area. Also, since switching both have there pros and cons. I think the best thing about the Android is that their is an app for everything! Don't like the messaging interface, download a new one, don't like the web browser, get another one, don't like the mail client get another one, you get the idea. I also like the live backgrounds, I love HTC SenseUI, and I also like all big screen. The iPhone however is the best out of box phone. If you want to get a phone and not touch anything about it and just download apps its hands down better. If you want to take the time to customize and find an app that fits you, well theirs really an app for that.
 
Those people would have found a way to bash Apple regardless of the response.

Undoubtedly. Sometimes I wonder why the fervor and zeal over a product... at times it seems a bit contrived, like they're on payroll or something...
But, I digress; no major company would ever be caught astroturfing, now would they :rolleyes:

It's what's know in intelligence analysis as a "signal". The surface message may have been "all phones exhibit this problem". But the signal was "You wanna play dirty? Bring it on. Or if you value your rep, keep off the grass".

Nokia and Moto were embarrassingly slow to get this and got sucked in when they did not need to be. They did Apple's' PR job for it.

Yeah, that's what I was saying, hence the "albeit effective." It wasn't the cleanest of messages or the cleanest of fights, but it worked rather well as a minimalist advertising/PR stunt. Had they pushed this message they would have had a fair amount of dissent, but I think overwhelmingly the public would respond positively to the comparisons, of course depending upon how it would be crafted and presented en mass.
 
Oh yeah....

Today there was a family reunion in town and one of the folks there had her 10 day old iPhone4.

I didn't know if she had heard anything about the antenna thing but I just asked her how she liked it.

She practically foamed at the mouth about how great it was - she's got kids in two different cities in the U.S. and just loves the thing.

Hmmm. Could it be that some people are foaming negatively about this due to youtube videos and what other people have not experienced and not what they have?

The other thing of interest beyond everything else:

The branch offices I work in (25 offices) all got 50+ megabit internet connections now.

So when I connect my iPhone 4 to the Wifi LAN I get over 12+ megabit connections on the phone (last time I checked).

I had to do a double take and go "12 megabit connections....on a PHONE?"

We live in interesting times.
 
agreed... other smart phones require a "death grip" the iphone 4 requires a simple touch with a single finger. hardly the same.

...hardly the same only to crazed bloggers. To normal users, either the phone can't make and finish calls, or it can. And there are enough of the latter for Apple to sell all the i4's it can manufacture.

Feeding the crazed bloggers with this misdirection campaign helped extend the amount of free PR that Apple got for the i4 by several weeks. But it's mostly been played out, and Apple isn't in to legacy marketing. The bloggers and trolls will just have to feed on one another until Apple throws out another "mistake" for another PR feeding frenzy whenever that might prove useful.
 
Was there any point in keeping them any longer.

Apple essentially killed "antennagate." iPhone 4 sales are through the roof. problem solved. Why continue to call attention to competitors' poor iPhone imitations?

More sales does not equate to the problem being solved.
And putting a bandaid/bumper on the phone is not an adequate solution either.

Car leaking gas? Well just don't drive it that way! Tilt it on the front two wheels so all the gas is away from the hole!
And even though we're going to claim our phone has NO PROBLEM and that it's an INDUSTRY WIDE issue... here's a TEMPORARY ONE TIME OFFER of free chewing-gum to plug up the leak.
Never mind that the gum (bumper) will wear out and require another to replace it...and another... and another... and another. Each at $30 a pop.
Problem solved my A$$!
 
Your blinkered fanboy hyperbole is embarrassing to watch.

I think we need to retire the term fanboy, people are simply peppering their comments with it when really they just disagree with what the OP is saying. That reminds me, I haven't eaten lunch.

For bumpers? Or for the phone, the waiting time for which is about the same as for the DroidX.

Not outside the US where they're either unavailable or unpopular by comparison. I can count the number of Android handsets I've seen people using in the wild in Singapore and Sydney on two hands (well okay, maybe three), compared to every second person with an iPhone.
 
Like a broken record

The only thing I have not heard here is people blaming President Bush for all of this.

I mean there are things in life other then:

Steve Jobs is he who gives Manna from Heaven and Apple with the iPhone, Ipod Touch, Nano, Classic, Shuffle, Macbook, iMac, or Macintosh is, that manifestation.:cool:

Or::rolleyes:

All thing that are evil are to be found in Steve Jobs, The Anti-Christ, Beelzebub. all Apple's products cause demonic possession, iTunes is the home of online wickedness. :mad:
 
Tried a friend's brand new iPhone 4 the other day. Used both hands to completely enclose the edges with my fingers but could not get it to reduce it's signal. Tried holding it every way I could think of but it would not drop a single bar. Is it only some iPhones that do this or does it require a poor signal to get it to drop (had 5 bars when I tried it)? No matter what I did, this one had not issues with signal loss... No bumper or case on it.
 
Again, numbers and continued demand for the iPhone 4 render your overstatement of any issues with the iPhone 4 moot.

Sales prove very little.

Just because Transformers 2 grossed almost 1 billion doesn't make it a good movie.
Just because Microsoft has a market share of over 90% doesn't make it a good company.
Just because Fox News has the most viewers doesn't make it a good news outlet.
Just because everyone listens to Lil Wayne doesn't make his music good.
Just because everyone read Harry Potter doesn't make it good literature.
Just because the iPhone has a continued demand doesn't mean it's a fully functional phone.

If anything, it proves that people are very very dumb when it comes to spending their money and time.
 
Sales prove very little.

Just because Transformers 2 grossed almost 1 billion doesn't make it a good movie.
Just because Microsoft has a market share of over 90% doesn't make it a good company.
Just because Fox News has the most viewers doesn't make it a good news outlet.
Just because everyone listens to Lil Wayne doesn't make his music good.
Just because everyone read Harry Potter doesn't make it good literature.
Just because the iPhone has a continued demand doesn't mean it's a fully functional phone.

If anything, it proves that people are very very dumb when it comes to spending their money and time.

This post needs to be stickied. Excellent.
 
Sales prove very little.

Just because Transformers 2 grossed almost 1 billion doesn't make it a good movie.
Just because Microsoft has a market share of over 90% doesn't make it a good company.
Just because Fox News has the most viewers doesn't make it a good news outlet.
Just because everyone listens to Lil Wayne doesn't make his music good.
Just because everyone read Harry Potter doesn't make it good literature.
Just because the iPhone has a continued demand doesn't mean it's a fully functional phone.

If anything, it proves that people are very very dumb when it comes to spending their money and time.

I agree, well put.
 
Tried a friend's brand new iPhone 4 the other day. Used both hands to completely enclose the edges with my fingers but could not get it to reduce it's signal. Tried holding it every way I could think of but it would not drop a single bar. Is it only some iPhones that do this or does it require a poor signal to get it to drop (had 5 bars when I tried it)? No matter what I did, this one had not issues with signal loss... No bumper or case on it.

You're holding it wrong.
 
[...] there are things in life other then:

Steve Jobs is he who gives Manna from Heaven and Apple with the iPhone, Ipod Touch, Nano, Classic, Shuffle, Macbook, iMac, or Macintosh is, that manifestation.:cool:

Or::rolleyes:

All thing that are evil are to be found in Steve Jobs, The Anti-Christ, Beelzebub. all Apple's products cause demonic possession, iTunes is the home of online wickedness. :mad:

You wouldn't know reading some of the responses here. I suppose when people live more sheltered lives they have to channel their angst and frustration into something. A recent close death in the family sure helped me put things into perspective, that's for sure.

Someone needs to develop a civility plugin for Safari or Firefox to translate extremes into something more pleasent to read. I suggest it draw quotes from P.G. Wodehouse characters.
 
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