Apple Removes Competitor Antenna Performance Comparisons From Site

[mdatwood]

My phone is the tool that I use the most to get business done (via voice, text, and e-mail.) I spend anywhere from 45 minutes to over two hours per day on the phone just on business calls, on average.

Try repeatedly hanging up on your boss or a client that pays you tens of thousands of dollars a year (as I did with my cheek multiple times with the iPhone 4) and then come back and tell me it's a superior as a phone even when compared to the Okidata bag phone I used in the early 1990s.

I have used my iPhone for business for years. The i4 holds calls better than any of the previous phones. It sounds like you have a proximity sensor issue. Take the the phone back for a replacement.

Exactly.

Even in Apple Stores, where the signal is artificially boosted via numerous in-store signal repeaters, if you place a finger over that one spot on the side of the iPhone and hold it there, the signal will continuously drop to the point of no reception.

Is there video of this somewhere? I went to my local Apple store and tried this on every phone they had and nothing happened. I have tried this on my iPhone and the most I can get to drop is 1 bar. Don't tell me my signal is too strong because I have tested with starting with 2-3-4-5 bars and never lose more than 1 bar (sometimes nothing happens) and never the ability to make a call. A friend just got his iPhone and his results are similar to mine. We do have another friend who got his on launch day and he seems to have a real problem. To me, this points to a manufacturing defect and anyone who can go from 5 bars to no signal with the touch needs to get a replacement phone.

The internet would have you think that every single one of the 3M+ iPhone buyers can go from 5 bars to no signal while touching the spot, but that is simply not true.

 

[rsocal]

Exactly.

Even in Apple Stores, where the signal is artificially boosted via numerous in-store signal repeaters, if you place a finger over that one spot on the side of the iPhone and hold it there, the signal will continuously drop to the point of no reception.

********, that’s a bold face lie!!!
I’ve been in 2 Apple stores and that never happens!
When you get a good signal it’s hard to get it to even drop 1 bar!

 

[Master Chief]

Does it drop the call, when I bridge the “sweet spot” it still will not drop a call on my i4. Do you have an i4, if so, it’s not to hard to move your ring finger a bit or put a case on it. It has not been a problem for most people and mine has worked awesome.

Don't get me wrong here. My reply to you was about the simple fact that a (wedding) ring can bridge the antenna gap. That you don't need a paper clip. That's all

And yes. We currently have four iPhone 4's (family of six) and two more – white editions – will be added when available. All in all; we're pretty happy with the new iPhone 4.

 

[Mattie Num Nums]

Total baloney. I can't even reproduce this on my iPhone 4 with Rogers. I can, as best I can, cover the entire antenna with both my hands and this problem doesn't happen. Does it drop a bar? Yes. Does it go to zero? LOL no.

Its true at least in the states. When Apple first launched the iPhone several AT&T employees installed devices in the 4 stores I worked in.

Also, I am still unable to reproduce any signal loss with my EVO while in 4G mode.

 

[macintoshi]

antenagate

Well i was one of the iPhone 4 buyers staying in long snake line...i didn't get an iPhone 4, cause there wasn't enough on 30 July, but i have a friend of me, he was able to buy one at that day. I tried in every ********** way to get this issue. Am sorry friends, but it seems here in switzerland no antenagate at all! This of course made me to purchase an iphone 4 on the apple store

 

[aughsum]

An anyone recommend an apple rumor site that isn't full of android fanboys?

 

[rsocal]

Don't get me wrong here. My reply to you was about the simple fact that a (wedding) ring can bridge the antenna gap. That you don't need a paper clip. That's all

And yes. We currently have four iPhone 4's (family of six) and two more – white editions – will be added when available. All in all; we're pretty happy with the new iPhone 4.

I’m with you and I get what you’re saying. I also have 4 iPhone 4’s as I’m a family of 4, but thank god I don’t have to buy 2 more. It’s really nice having them with your family and as dorky as FaceTime is, it’s a great thing with family! We have had iPhones since the first launch!

 

[azurehi]

Lets, see lying about the competitions products to make yours less crap than it actually is. Steve Jobs lying in public about the other companies?

That there is enough to blow Apple back 10 years.

Wish the other Steve, Wozniak that is, were running Apple instead of Jobs

 

[mabaker]

Are you high? I can make my wife's droid x drop a call completely by holding it a certain way! Have yet to drop a call on my iPhone 4

Exactly. thank you for commenting. SO many trolls on here that know absolutely nothing. We need ppl post here the truth about every other phone out there. Not just about Apple’s supposed arrogance by pointing out the TRUTH.

I for one can 100% confirm this as I live in a bad reception area and the n97 mini behaves even WORSE than in Apple’s videos.

 

[mrochester]

About time Apple got rid of these videos, it was starting to get really childish.

 

[Jelite]

Who cares.

*Looks at the 3 billion articles on the subject*

Hmmmmm.

 

[wescravn]

I wasn't going to say anything, but I said maybe after 9+ pages of "antenna bashing", I'm going to get my 2cents in.

I was taught as a young boy, if you don't have nothing to GOOD to say, then don't say it. Obviously, others on this site weren't taught properly. However, there's always time for re-education.

I feel like I need to speak to my children at school, and say "DONT DO THAT" or "DONT SAY THAT". I would hope everyone is over 18 on this forum, and if not then I understand. If so, then children, we need to learn the basics of etiquette.

1) If you don't like the iPhone or any apple product, then don't buy it or If someone calls you a bad name children, then you need to let someone else know.

2) If you don't like the antenna, then get a new phone. If sallie called you fat, then sallie needs to learn to respect you, and we can talk about this together, during a parent/teacher conference.

If you still don't learn and have to call "Apple" or other people bad names to make up for your lack of umm....(?) that God didn't give you, it's ok. We got a therapy app for that.

If you still don't get it, I'm sorry. I charge $50/hr for private counseling sessions. You might spend more on that then the iPhone and fixing you're problem with being need to be heard. I hope I cleared up all your issues. Thank you and have a great day.

 

[mrochester]

Do you laugh all the time? Did you just call me a troll and suggested that my post that you responded to was ridiculous?

You call things and people garbage, trolls and other names far too easily. There is no reason to laugh here. People who laugh all the time need medical attention.

Honestly, don't even waste your time responding. I've learnt that one from experience!

 

[Mr. MacPhisto]

Great move Apple!

The antenna flaw was by design anyways. They know that Apple Zombies will buy anything and love it, even if it is terrible. They'll have a redesigned phone with less problems on the market within a year and get the Zombies to drop another couple hundred bucks on another phone.

Apple knows what it takes to wring every penny out of members of their cult and they know that those people are so blinded by their Apple lust that facts don't matter. They could sell a pretty iMac with the computing capacity of a calculator circa 1980 and the Zombies would think it was the greatest computer on the market and would swear by it, deriding those who just couldn't see the plain truth that anything made by Apple must be the greatest thing ever. They would know that it would be a privilege to fork over $1500 for pretty calculator that could feed Steve Jobs ego. After all, Apple has all the traits of what psychologists would term an abuser and Apple Zombies like to be abused, telling themselves that they are loved by Jobs and Apple no matter how badly they are treated.

 

[pika2000]

Good. Glad Apple decided to move on. It's understandable showing the videos during the press conference, but keeping it on the site, and worse, adding more videos, only made Apple look like a sore loser. Maybe Jobs has calmed down now. Can't wait for iLife 2011.

 

[*LTD*]

Great move Apple!

The antenna flaw was by design anyways. They know that Apple Zombies will buy anything and love it, even if it is terrible. They'll have a redesigned phone with less problems on the market within a year and get the Zombies to drop another couple hundred bucks on another phone.

Apple knows what it takes to wring every penny out of members of their cult and they know that those people are so blinded by their Apple lust that facts don't matter. They could sell a pretty iMac with the computing capacity of a calculator circa 1980 and the Zombies would think it was the greatest computer on the market and would swear by it, deriding those who just couldn't see the plain truth that anything made by Apple must be the greatest thing ever. They would know that it would be a privilege to fork over $1500 for pretty calculator that could feed Steve Jobs ego. After all, Apple has all the traits of what psychologists would term an abuser and Apple Zombies like to be abused, telling themselves that they are loved by Jobs and Apple no matter how badly they are treated.

Except the competition is doing all it can to copy Apple and follow their lead. What now?

 

[Westside guy]

While the comparisons may have been somewhat useful in the very short term, I think it probably hurt Apple somewhat. Basically they were saying "hey, we're no worse than the other guys!", which is pretty weak from a branding perspective.

Up until now, Apple's cultivated the image that the iPhone is this amazing phone all the other vendors are trying to catch up to - and that's been the perception in the press as well. These antenna comparisons came across as if the iPhone is just one out of a bunch of comparable smartphones.

 

[mrochester]

Good. Glad Apple decided to move on. It's understandable showing the videos during the press conference, but keeping it on the site, and worse, adding more videos, only made Apple look like a sore loser. Maybe Jobs has calmed down now. Can't wait for iLife 2011.

Yeah onwards and upwards. Hopefully we can now get back to a more professional Apple instead of mucking down with the mud slinging over the last few weeks!

 

[djellison]

The heat was on from their string of half-truths. I think that Droid X video blew the top off their whole bucket of lies the 'fanboys' have been eating like it was M&M's.

There is NOTHING I can do to my DroidX to make the signal drop like Apple tried to make out. Yet I have, personally, put one finger in one place on an iPhone 4 and had it freeze all 3G and call connectivity immediately.

The comparisons Apple were making were at best misleading, and worst, wilfully deceptive.

Their mail was probably getting quite heavy with some cease and desist letters from other firms lawyers - and rightly so.

What's especially embarrassing is showing all those press around the RF testing facilities... facilities that they have and STILL didn't spot the iPhone 4' Achilles heel.

 

[egret]

Most people in other countries are laughing at people in the US because of their complaining about an issue almost no one else is experiencing. Read comments from the international launch in other countries and it is overwhelmingly "MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING"!

Sorry trolls...your Android still sucks.

 

[UTclassof89]

...They could sell a pretty iMac with the computing capacity of a calculator circa 1980 and the Zombies would think it was the greatest computer on the market...

Isn't that called an "iPad"?

 

[PerfSeeker]

Meanwhile laughs all the way to the bank as the profits keep shooting into their coffers at light speed. I am still not going to ever buy an IP4.

 

[meatballs]

A couple of my relatives theorize that he's still dying. Both of them are doctors, and from a very external position (i.e., only seeing him in images and occasional video footage -- meaning take this with a grain of salt) they say he looks unhealthy -- skin-and-bones dying unhealthy, not just thin. The reaction of getting more and more hard-assed and driven to 'make his mark' (i.e., for someone with an ego the size of his, reshape the world in his image) would also seem to follow with the dying thing.

It doesn't take a doctor to see that the man is dying, maybe his body is rejecting the new liver

 

[PerfSeeker]

It doesn't take a doctor to see that the man is dying, maybe his body is rejecting the new liver

You'd think he should realize he's already made his mark and then some. He made Apple into a bigger company(market cap) then MSFT and left the legacy of the iPod, iPhone, unibody Macs and Apple stores. What else does he need to do? He should just find a way to come to peace with the approaching end.

 

[Full of Win]

Most people in other countries are laughing at people in the US because of their complaining about an issue almost no one else is experiencing. Read comments from the international launch in other countries and it is overwhelmingly "MUCH ADO ABOUT NOTHING"!

Sorry trolls...your Android still sucks.

First, I doubt they are laughing at us. Second, the networks in other countries tend to be stronger, at least in my experience. I assume part of the reason is the population density of the US is smaller than other countries that the iPhone 4 has launched in. Because of this towers in the US tend to be spread out more, and given radio signals roughly follow the inverse square law, then this means handsets are getting a weaker signal. Most phones can handle this; the iPhone in the left hand cannot.

This is not a hardware debate, so iOS4 vs. Android does not really factor into it. This is a design debate; and the iPhone 4 for many users, has failed miserably.

It doesn't take a doctor to see that the man is dying, maybe his body is rejecting the new liver

We are all dying.