I was planning to upgrade later this year. As others have said, I'll bite if that increased price includes a minimum of 32G. Otherwise, I'll pass.
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Apple Reportedly Negotiating with Carriers for $100 Price Increase on iPhone 6
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So you are implying that the carriers should just simply 'lose' $100 on every iPhone they sell over what they get know?
Yeah that'll never happen, YOU will pay the $100 increase.
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Think about it for a minute if the price of the carrier phone is to be increased but the SIM free phone remain the same then it would be the carrier driving the price increase not Apple.
That is a great idea!! Apple marketing team: I know you all are reading this, Make this happen
I don't call you the greatest marketing team the world has ever seen for nothing
No you misundstand what I am getting after. Apple has always used the criteria of one hand. everything on the phone can litteraly be done with one hand. Look at the fingerprint sensor. With Apple you can do it with one hand, but with samsung you need two hands. same for typing -- you can reach all keys with one hand where that is not possible on a samsung. I am all for bigger screens and have said multiple times that Apple needs to put the phone app on the mini. but for the phone they could easily increase the screen without increasing the phone size - just get rid of the bezel.
I find that a one handed phone is perfect (and if had a bigger screen it would be more perfect). Could Apple increase the physical width of the phone - probably a little, but not much. Could it increase the screen size - a lot if it got rid of the bezel.
For those that want a giant phone beyond what fits in one hand, I think that adding the phone app to the ipad mini is an immediate win - it literally already has all the hardware, it would go down in battery duration as a result, but that could easily be delt with from a marketing perspective.
They keep the plastic case of the 5c (perhaps adding some sensible colours like white and black) giving it the internals of the 5s and keeping the price as per the 5c and the 4.7" 6 sees a price increase. I would pay slightly more for a 4.7" iPhone 6 than the current 5s pricing.
I personally don't think they'll have 3 models so it will be the 4" and the 4.7"
I personally don't think they'll have 3 models so it will be the 4" and the 4.7"
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
While I agree with your point, the above doesn't resonate for me. Is this: http://www.att.com/wireless/iphone/#fbid=Nsljh6ncWAI not "a deal". Maybe "a deal" is that the carrier would pay us $100-$200 to take a 5s on contract? I see these iPhone 5s for free* deals in more than one place. What is "a deal"?
Again, I may be wrong, but I don't think Apple controls or can control the pricing of contract-based offers.
I've got a question about the supposed price jump with the new iPhone 6. I have no intentions of 'dropping' my 5C for the 6. I've barely had it for six months as it is.
My question is, if I understood a discussion between my mom and dad right once, when the contract is up and you want to get a new phone along with the plan renewal, it's (the phone) going to be cheaper, right?
Thank you.
My question is, if I understood a discussion between my mom and dad right once, when the contract is up and you want to get a new phone along with the plan renewal, it's (the phone) going to be cheaper, right?
Thank you.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
To all those posting an idea like this: be sure to first look up what it costs for say 128GB flash drives. I know we see 16GB to 32GB pricing by Apple as $100 but there's a LOT of profit in how Apple prices these storage tiers (and yes, I
know flash drives are not exactly the same, but you also know that I'm looking at buying a quantity of 1 flash drive as opposed to Apple buying gobs of units of flash storage for iDevices)
16 megapixels is too many. They've crammed them onto a tiny sensor which creates noise and degrades quality. The iPhone 5s takes better pictures.
He might be one-armed, poor guy, while the vast majority of us humans have 2 arms. We've learned to involve both in just about everything we want to do (which is probably why we have 2). You should see the screens on the phones the octopi are using. WOW!
Apple comes along and spins 3.5" as the "perfect" size and rationalizes that- in part- with the one-handed use argument (which, of course, doesn't carry over to the marketing spin in selling iPads or iPad Minis) and "we" swallow that like candy.
Then Apple launches the 4" screen as the new "perfect" size and we swallow that like candy too, even if beforehand "we" spun "they would never", "fragmentation", "abomination" and all such typical stuff.
Soon Apple will roll out the 4.7" and maybe the 5+ inch as the newest "perfect". And if the one-handed use part of the spin to rationalize that perfection will no longer apply, they'll just drop that bullet from the spin. Like all such spin, such bullets are only important when they support some differentiation thrust. In this case, Apple wanted to spin why smaller screens were better than bigger screens and that was one such point. So naturally, "we" run with it and argue it to no end- even make up relatively odd scenarios where it applies- right up until Apple drops that punch or spins something else and then "we" will go right with them.
I use both hands on an Apple keyboard to type this response. I use one hand on the keyboard and one on a mouse to review it. 2 hands on an iPad mini works just fine… even when on a train (and all such rationalized scenarios). The one-handed argument will just end as soon as Apple rolls out a phone that doesn't support it and they drop it from their spin. And then the crowd will flip with Apple and "shut up and take my money", "how did we ever get by with those small screens" etc chorus will rain upon us all.
And almost no one will have to buy new pants with huge pockets.
Personally, I'm so excited about the rumor of it getting even thinner… because we all know how much thin brings to the table (one armed or not). Woohoo! Also(very much so and mostly for the same reasoning)
See the thing is, when the iPhone 1 came out 3.5" was a huge screen that people initially said was probably a bit too big as the fashion at the time was for tiny phones. The benefit of the 3.5" screen is that it was easy for most people to use one handed. The phone market moved on and larger and larger screen phones were released by other manufacturers and people seemed to like them so Apple comes out with a 4" screen which is tall and slim so still usable with one hand but the market seems not to be completely satisfied with this so larger phones are required to satisfy this consumer need. If the iPhone 1 had a 4.7" screen no one would have bought into it because at the time it would have appeared comically large. But things move on and people's ideas change over time. Now 4.7" seems reasonable to most people while 5.5" is a push for most. I personally like the narrower 4" phone that can be used with one hand as do many others but increasingly many people like larger smart phones now and that has become a significant percentage of the market that Apple currently has no representation in. In this respect the consumer has spoken and if Apple fails to answer they will become more marginalised in this significant segment of the market. So what can we take from this, well one persons perfect is not everyone's so things change and we all get lead by marketing to buy whatever the advertisers are currently pushing regardless of who makes it.
Really? Their investors would disagree. Apple and Tim Cook have been pushing China hard the last few years. Growth in the US is pretty much leveled out. Without worldwide growth, they would be in trouble. That is why I don't believe this article at all.
See the thing is, when the iPhone 1 came out 3.5" was a huge screen that people initially said was probably a bit too big as the fashion at the time was for tiny phones. The benefit of the 3.5" screen is that it was easy for most people to use one handed. The phone market moved on and larger and larger screen phones were released by other manufacturers and people seemed to like them so Apple comes out with a 4" screen which is tall and slim so still usable with one hand but the market seems not to be completely satisfied with this so larger phones are required to satisfy this consumer need. If the iPhone 1 had a 4.7" screen no one would have bought into it because at the time it would have appeared comically large. But things move on and people's ideas change over time. Now 4.7" seems reasonable to most people while 5.5" is a push for most. I personally like the narrower 4" phone that can be used with one hand as do many others but increasingly many people like larger smart phones now and that has become a significant percentage of the market that Apple currently has no representation in. In this respect the consumer has spoken and if Apple fails to answer they will become more marginalised in this significant segment of the market. So what can we take from this, well one persons perfect is not everyone's so things change and we all get lead by marketing to buy whatever the advertisers are currently pushing.
What's primarily different is when the first iPhone came out - people were barely using phones for gaming and surfing the web - let alone a ton of internet based apps. They weren't watching movies either.
All that has changed - and now a smartphone is rarely used for calls (for many) but instead to consume media and use as a "mini" computer. That's why there's a trend for bigger screens. As more and more people do more and more on their phones - bigger screens make sense where they might not have before.
Hellooooooo chicken littles,
Only speculation and a rumor by Mr. Misek.
The amount of people jumping ship based on that is funny.
And, plenty of liars will not jump.
Relax and wait what will come out, get the correct info and buy or don't.
Oh, and did I mentioned Apple is doomed?
Only speculation and a rumor by Mr. Misek.
The amount of people jumping ship based on that is funny.
And, plenty of liars will not jump.
Relax and wait what will come out, get the correct info and buy or don't.
Oh, and did I mentioned Apple is doomed?
Apple is not the front-runner it once was. Let's not forget the MacBook Pro with Retina display was expensive as heck. That was mostly just a new screen...
I think it might be a mistake to up the price. But let's face it: you and I are buying one either way.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Apple has a long history of "always" criteria until it no longer serves their marketing spin: "Who wants an iPod that plays video?" being one. Apple only clings to spin while it serves them.
Per the Samsung case, we can all see that Apple is acknowledging that consumers want bigger-screened phones. Of course they are not going to spin that in marketing while only selling smaller-screened phones. So they do what marketers do- they spin the advantages that supports their product mix at the moment. As soon as they roll out bigger-screened phones where the one-hand-use argument no longer applies, they'll just drop that from the spin… as will all of "us."
It won't be spun as "unusable" or an "abomination" et all by Apple or us. It won't be "stupid", "require bigger pants pockets", etc. It may require having to use our other hand on some things, but that's why we have 2 hands. I can't even type this message very efficiently if I keep one hand off the keyboard.
There's no such spin for one-handed use for iPad or iPad mini. The masses of iPad users aren't significantly disadvantaged by having to involve the other hand to use iOS on those bigger screens… even on a train, or while holding the baby in one arm, etc (insert all such rationalizations spun for one-handed support… that will all be forgotten when one-handed spin is no longer spun by Apple).
Apple has acknowledged they are losing consumer business to bigger-screened phones. The rumors show they are addressing that issue. It's likely such iPhones will terminate the one-handed marketing spin point. So what. When iPods rolled out with video, the "who wants an iPod with video?" spin also terminated. That's Apple. One way is the ONLY way until Apple turns. Then the new way is the ONLY way until they turn again. Whatever way is the current (Apple) way is the ONLY way and all other ways are "abominations", "stupid", etc, right up until Apple goes there and then they're not. "99% of people don't want it a different way" until Apple turns and then "99% don't want it a different way than the new way". Haven't we all seen this movie about 20 times now?
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I don't know why people compare iPhone 5s sales to iPhone 5c. Firstly, I don't believe Apple publishes that data, and secondly, if published, the 5c sales should be compared to the 4s sales of the prior year.
Personally, I preferred the 5s to the 5c primairly because of the camera. My wife wanted the 5c, and she didn't give a damn about the difference in specs. Three people in my household have the 5c, and they all love it. However, I will be sure to let them know that an IT Pro thinks it's a POS, so they understand the delusional nature of their customer experience.
Here's one (though you'll find it difficult to read with your head in the sand):
http://english.etnews.com/communication/2944364_1300.html
Not that i'm dying to pay 100 extra for my next iPhone, but come on, really? I'm not going to buy some android just because Apple increased iPhone price by 100. I'm not going to use Google services and i'm not going to destroy my existing workflows and setup that work wonderfully for me. I like my Mac, i like iCloud and i like my iPhone and iPad.
Whats a 100 bucks really? Not buying a coffee at starbucks very other morning?
Take this with a grain of salt folks. Analysts work for investors to move the market price up and down making them money in the short term or long run depending on their specific goal. Most aren't out there to be accurate. In essence, their entire job is to manipulate the market for their investors.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
You believe what you wish but here, Apple just needs to deem anything THE way and it is THE way thereafter (until Apple changes). 3.5" was the chosen size by Apple and thus was deemed the way. However, had they made it 4.7" or 5.5" and spun it, it would have been just as readily accepted and we might be oohing & ahhhing at rumors of an iPhone mini with an unbelievable 3.5" screen so that we can use it with only 1 hand right now.
The spin is the key, not the practicalities of the time. Look at iPad as the mirror here. Apple spun 9.7" as the one and only perfect size of a tablet. Smaller would be stupid (and boy was that spun by the cheerleaders in countless threads here) right up until Apple rolled out the iPad Mini and then it was cutting-edge great: "Shut up and take my money". Why wasn't the first one at the practical size of the mini instead of the maxi?
It's just spin. "We" suckle at Apple spin like a baby at the finest momma's milk. Apple could roll out a triangular phone screen in a star-shaped phone body and "we" would gush at the perfection of the new Apple Ninja Star phone. Every rectangular brick phone would then be deemed antique, outdated, garbage, abomination, etc.