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microLED is the best of both worlds, not prone to burn-in and barely any blooming. It’ll take a long while for microLED to be widely available for consumer products so for now OLED would do.
I mean, how many times does your Mac sit with the same image on the display? It's not often as displays usually turn off after a minute or so.
 
I mean, how many times does your Mac sit with the same image on the display? It's not often as displays usually turn off after a minute or so.
The Dock and menu bar is static for a long while.

Edit: OLED also has this issue with PWM which causes eye strain for some people.
 
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OLED is no blooming, but prone to burn-in.
I doubt it will be regular OLED. Apple is 100% aware of the risks and if they're gonna use that technology on their macs, it most likely will be a custom panel or QD-OLED at least, which has drastically less chance of burn-in.
 
It seems more than a little...unseemly...to report information on a free website that the original author is reporting to his Super Followers on his Twitter feed. It feels uncomfortably like scraping a photo off a website and using it despite copyright issues. There would be challenges to Fair Use, I think. It's a news item, but there are commercial ads on this page. It would be hard not to use the great majority of a tweet, rather than an insubstantial portion. And using the report here damages the Tweeter's ability to charge for subscriptions. I'm not a lawyer, but a professional photographer, and most of us have had experience with copyright infringers. This feels like it.
Ross Young gave us his ongoing permission to publish information he shares with his Super Followers on Twitter.

(We simply asked him. We're not paying him extra or anything like that.)
 
I mean how many years does Apple need to release OLED notebooks? Samsung and LG has been doing this for years...

Apple doesn't release a technology just because they can. They release it when it's up to their standards.

Samsung had OLED smartphone displays before Apple, but the iPhone X's OLED display was better than the peer Galaxy (even though both used OLEDs from Samsung Display) because Apple had higher standards than Samsung Electronics did.

So you can be confident that Apple's laptop OLEDs will be superior to the competition, even if they are sourced from the same supplier.


OLED is no blooming, but prone to burn-in.

There are a number of burn-in mitigation technologies available to mitigate this. Apple could also decide to cover burn-in under AppleCare (like Alienware does with their new QD-OLED gaming monitor) to help address concerns.


Interestingly, QD-OLED will be on other brands of laptops and tablets in 2024 and even maybe microled by then. Apple needs to step up.

Consumer Micro-LED in the size for laptop, tablet and phone displays is probably a decade away. Micro-LED modules are still measured in meters and priced in the tens of thousands of dollars which is why Micro-LED TVs are in the 100"-plus range with $100,000-plus price-tags.

Yeah, makes total sense that Apple would debut new (and very expensive) screen technology in their cheapest laptop 🙄

OLED is excellent for video content consumption and I expect that is a common use case for Airs.
 
The Dock and menu bar is static for a long while.

Also, OLED has this issue with PWM which causes eye strain to some people.
OLED and LCD can both have PWM, and both can be built without. Both are built with and without, depending on manufacturer and product line. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who have only encountered it via iPhones so think it is an OLED-only issue.
 
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Their cheapest laptop model is the M1 MacBook Air... so I fail to see your point.

I fail to see how that's not what I said. The report says OLED will come to a MacBook Air. I said Apple's cheapest computer is the MacBook Air.
 
This is nice don’t get me wrong but even for the professionals how much difference does it really make when 98% of the audience for your product use standard screens to see which aren’t even uniform. Every screen on iPhones, iPad or MacBook are slightly off tint or/and white balance wise.

You might as well use the screen to create your work on the same type of screen your audience views it.
 
OLED and LCD can both have PWM, and both can be built without. Both are built with and without, depending on manufacturer and product line. Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who have only encountered it via iPhones so think it is an OLED-only issue.
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I never heard of any complaints of PWM eye strain issues with LCD iPhones so probably OLED is more prone to that.
 
I will absolutely buy whatever product comes with OLED. Here’s hoping it has the iPhone 13 Pro peak brightness and better ProMotion!
 
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Ross Young gave us his ongoing permission to publish information he shares with his Super Followers on Twitter.

(We simply asked him. We're not paying him extra or anything like that.)
Copyrights can only be transferred, by law, in writing and when signed by the copyright owner. I'd hope he doesn't change his mind.
 
OLED is no blooming, but prone to burn-in.
Don’t agree, OLED had many screen burn problems in early years but now they are pretty resilient to this. Also own a iPhone X for newly 5 years and has a OLED screen and not one problem with it no screen burn or anything. Apple would never use them if they had a chance of this
 
I wonder why moving away from MiniLED and also not straight to MicroLED?

Is OLED still better than MiniLED on XDR display?
 


It appears "increasingly likely" that Apple will launch a new 13-inch MacBook with an OLED display in 2024, according to display industry analyst Ross Young. In a tweet shared with his Super Followers today, Young said the notebook is expected to be a new MacBook Air, but he said there is a possibility it will have other branding.

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Young, who has accurately revealed a range of display-related information for the iPhone 13 Pro, iPad mini, MacBook Pro, and other devices, also expects Apple to release new 11-inch and 12.9-inch iPad Pro models with OLED displays in 2024.

In another tweet shared with his Super Followers, Young said the OLED displays in all three new devices will adopt a two-stack tandem structure, in which there are two red, green, and blue emission layers, allowing for increased brightness and lower power consumption. OLED displays also do not require backlighting for further power efficiency.

Young said all of the devices will adopt LTPO display technology for a variable refresh rate between 1Hz and 120Hz, a feature that Apple calls ProMotion. All iPad Pro models released since 2017 already feature ProMotion, but the refresh rate can only drop as low as 24Hz, while ProMotion would be all new to the MacBook Air.

Apple is currently focused on transitioning its Mac and iPad lines to LCD displays with mini-LED backlighting, and OLED displays would be the next step. Unlike mini-LED displays, OLED panels use self-emitting pixels and do not require backlighting, which could improve contrast ratio and further contribute to longer battery life.

Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning 13-Inch MacBook Air and iPad Pros With OLED Displays
How to deal with burn-in issues? It will be a lot worse on computer than TV in nature.
 
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. I never heard of any complaints of PWM eye strain issues with LCD iPhones so probably OLED is more prone to that.
It is not a matter of prone, it is if the manufacturer decides to do something about it. Apple are expensive devices, so they should not be using panels that have PWM.

LCD has been around a lot longer, so it is easier and cheaper to do something about PWM. I have had to return LCD monitors in the past because of PWM, but most are now flicker-free (i.e. don't have PWM). It was much worse than iPhones (I am OK with PWM on my iPhone 12 Mini, but don't use it for long periods like I do monitors).
 
Don’t agree, OLED had many screen burn problems in early years but now they are pretty resilient to this. Also own a iPhone X for newly 5 years and has a OLED screen and not one problem with it no screen burn or anything. Apple would never use them if they had a chance of this
Because you don’t leave a menu bar or task bar on screen for hours to days on phone.
 
How to deal with burn-in issues? It will be a lot worse on computer than TV in nature.
The article says they are going for double stack OLED. Having it brighter as standard means they don't have to drive the pixels as hard, so helping. There are also multiple mitigation techniques that work well on TVs (although the dimming a fixed image technique on TVs is obviously not suited to computer screens).
 
if they are the first, then people cry about the prices...if they are the last they cry about not being the first
Displays are expensive. Very expensive. Samsung can afford to put the latest and greatest in their own devices seeing as they manufacture them. Customers won't get the same internal cost - nowhere near in fact.
 
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