If this had MacOS on it I'd get it in a second. I wish Microsoft considered a 16" surface pro. Maybe by next year, if this rumor is true, Apple will have considered putting more full OS features into the iPad.
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Apple Reportedly Planning to Release Larger 16-Inch iPad Next Year
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Another gimped product because of iPadOS. Instead of adding pencil support for MacBooks or MacOS to iPads.
You're right to skip this year's iPad. The camera position on the M2 iPad Pro is an absolute joke.
Still rocking my 2018 iPad Pro, now with Stage Manager that boosted my productivity. No desire to upgrade at all.
No matter 12.9, 14.1, or 16-inch, I won't buy it unless they change the design. They better update the Magic Keyboard too with function keys. I'm more excited about the 14.1 or 16-inch as well.
Actually... the majority of other tablets in the market failed, even Google's own projects. The only reason Apple survived is because the OS was so similar to their phones and was extremely easy to use. Microsoft has seen success with the tablet form factor, the majority of mobile Windows devices come with touch capability. Apple could add touch to MacOS, they chose not to. You could buy a MacOS touch enabled device and still use it with traditional inputs, just like Windows.
I don't understand why the loyalists have this "all or nothing" attitude when it comes these issues. You can bet, if Tim thought he could make even more money by adding a touch screen, they would be included in the next cycle. I also think you'd be shocked at the amount of people who would buy one... especially if a touch MacBook (Air or Pro) was sold alongside a traditional at a slightly increased price. I think you'd see the stronger sales on the touch enabled device. Remember... it was Steve himself that said there's no better mobile computing tool than your finger, when he launched the iPhone.
And before anyone can say Microsoft is a flop or Microsoft is horrible... they still have 76%+ marketshare. (backed up by statistics, see link below) So calm down, I own a Mac... it's just a fact.
Sources cited, you're welcome.
Desktop operating system market share 2013-2025| Statista
Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system (OS) worldwide as of March 2025, with a market share of around ** percent.
www.statista.com
Steve Jobs was right: There’s still no better mobile computing tool than your finger
The late Apple CEO was right: Despite the invention of several clever technologies, there's still no better way to use a mobile device.
Yes. This makes more sense than shoving a desktop OS on it.
Agreed. Windows 8 was great on tablets. Horrible HORRIBLE on PC since everything was BIGGER. Windows 10/11 are not so great on Surface. I constantly miss tap something small.
It’s not so simple. Besides the conceptual questions (whether it’s a good idea to run 2 OS in a product, specially a tablet):
1. It’s not actually “hitting a button”. It would need to reboot, start macOS, etc. (let’s not even think about those fantasies of “attach the MK and then switch to macOS”). And the iPad is a device meant not to be rebooted.
2. How is storage shared? I don’t expect Apple to have another bootcamp for 2 of its own OS… Files of the Mac partition are not shared with the iPadOS partition? Programs are independent? Security? APIs (think of handling both cameras)?
In the end, of course you can run macOS on an iPad. But many people greatly underestimate how complex it is to REALLY provide a great experience (I bet 90% of those who ask for it wouldn’t use it), and are unaware of many side effects that could affect everyone, not just them: for example, a lot of Mac apps that now require completely different hardware (fragmentation), less iPad apps optimised for touch, etc.
I was already looking forward to the 14-inch to replace my 12.9 M1. It’s going to be interesting to see how a 16-inch form factor in the real world.
One of the good things about the iPad is that it's more intimate than a MacBook. I really don't know who the target consumer is going to be for this, it makes no sense. And it'll probably start at $1500 or something like that, in which case you might as well get a MacBook.
Apple to annouce the iSurface.
Apple is developing a larger 16-inch iPad that it hopes to release in the fourth quarter of 2023, according to a report today from The Information's Wayne Ma. This would be the largest-ever iPad model, topping the 12.9-inch iPad Pro.
"A 16-inch iPad would likely be geared toward creative professionals such as graphic artists and designers who prefer a larger screen," the report says. No additional details were provided about the prospective device, which would have the same screen size as a 16-inch MacBook Pro, providing users with a significantly larger canvas to work with.
Bloomberg's Mark Gurman last year claimed that Apple was exploring the idea of larger iPads that could further "blur the lines" between a tablet and a laptop.
Earlier this year, oft-accurate display industry analyst Ross Young claimed that Apple was also developing a larger 14-inch iPad Pro with a mini-LED display. Taking both of these rumors into account, it is possible that Apple is planning to release both 14-inch and 16-inch iPad Pro models next year, which would mirror the 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro.
Apple just updated the iPad Pro with the M2 chip, an Apple Pencil hover feature, ProRes video recording support, and a few other minor improvements last week.
Article Link: Apple Reportedly Planning to Release 16-Inch iPad Late Next Year
Now lets hope it runs OSX with a touch interface and not that crap iPadOS. There was an article last week saying Apple is working on a version of OSX to run on iPads.
I think this more of a marketing thing with Apple they always configure devices so you need multiple devices. So they don't want to put a touch interface on a MacBook because they aim those to the video marketplace. The iPad is their middle child more for graphic artists so a touch interface is desired. iPad and iPadOS don't handle the pro app likes Logic and Final Cut so you have to buy MacBook. Don't forget for Apples best cameras have to buy a iPhone. Some say Ecosystem other see it as Golden Handcuffs.
Microsoft has almost always had dominant market share and they’ve always been horrible. Microsoft played monopolistic tricks (remember Netscape?) while PC makers played on the general public‘s unappreciation of quality and overall cheapness when it comes to tech (similar to how crappy VHS beat out the far superior Beta).Actually... the majority of other tablets in the market failed, even Google's own projects. The only reason Apple survived is because the OS was so similar to their phones and was extremely easy to use. Microsoft has seen success with the tablet form factor, the majority of mobile Windows devices come with touch capability. Apple could add touch to MacOS, they chose not to. You could buy a MacOS touch enabled device and still use it with traditional inputs, just like Windows.
I don't understand why the loyalists have this "all or nothing" attitude when it comes these issues. You can bet, if Tim thought he could make even more money by adding a touch screen, they would be included in the next cycle. I also think you'd be shocked at the amount of people who would buy one... especially if a touch MacBook (Air or Pro) was sold alongside a traditional at a slightly increased price. I think you'd see the stronger sales on the touch enabled device. Remember... it was Steve himself that said there's no better mobile computing tool than your finger, when he launched the iPhone.
And before anyone can say Microsoft is a flop or Microsoft is horrible... they still have 76%+ marketshare. (backed up by statistics, see link below) So calm down, I own a Mac... it's just a fact.
Sources cited, you're welcome.
Desktop operating system market share 2013-2025| Statista
Microsoft's Windows was the dominant desktop operating system (OS) worldwide as of March 2025, with a market share of around ** percent.
Steve Jobs was right: There’s still no better mobile computing tool than your finger
The late Apple CEO was right: Despite the invention of several clever technologies, there's still no better way to use a mobile device.fortune.com
If not MacOS, they need to at least have full support for keyboard/mouse and MacOS apps.
Right because we need more iPads, its not like we too many iPad already.
It's not even the keyboard/mouse that I need. It's the ability to multitask in ways a decrepit ancient laptop can handle just fine but an iPad cannot.
If the 13" iPad Pro is $300 more than the 11" iPad Pro, then the 16" iPad Pro would be around $300 more than that.
11" 799 USD
13" $1099 USD
16" $1399 USD
11" 799 USD
13" $1099 USD
16" $1399 USD
Pretty much only artists would be using it. But it also makes sense. iPad Pro is a defacto standard for digital artists at this point.
I was actually thinking of the webcomics/Manga usage would be more commonplace.
