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I'm not an expert but I can tell you that I've been very happy with my Bose purchases. The Soundlink mini is by far the best mini iPod speaker I tested and I think I tested most of them. My brother got the Bose Soundbar for under his TV and he says the sound quality is excellent. I love my Bose headphones. They're really comfortable and I think the sound quality is excellent. I've tried the Beats products and I'm sorry but I though the sound quality was crap. They look smart but I'm not interested in that.

I have the SoundLink Mini too. It's perfect!
 
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I'll buy Bose Head Phones and Speakers all day over that Beats Crappola, Sorry Timmy(Cook), as a loyal Apple Customer, it still bothers me you purchased Beats for over 3 Billion, I just don't see the sense of it.... I sure in the hell know SJ would of never done that!:eek:
 
both brands are overpriced, but I would much rather buy Bose than Beats.

Frankly I find what Apple is doing here is anti-competitive. but hey, I don't buy accessories from Apple store anyway, so it doesn't bother me.

If to be non anti competitive they need to sell competitors products in their own stores (including those who sue them) they should also start selling Samsung phones.
 
I personally hate wearing headphones which is why I don't listen to music at home with them. I find them to be confining. The good quality headphones simply cost a lot of money. If I were to buy a pair, they would PROBABLY be either the Audeze or Sennheiser HD800's but they both cost over $1K and I simply wouldn't wear them enough to justify the expense at this point in time.

But what I want is sonic accuracy that sounds good. I've listened to Bose, Beats, B&O, and many other headphones and they simply don't sound that accurate. They are very colored in their sound quality. What gets me is those that haven't heard a high end pair of headphones chastise people that have. Go to a dealership and listen to a set of HD800's or Audeze headphones and compare them to the Beats or Bose, if you listen to recordings of good quality that aren't heavily processed, there is a world of difference. Quit trying to make it sound like we're elitists, people that want good quality of sound typically have spent the time to figure out what actually sounds good and we generally listen to recordings that aren't heavily processed to begin with.

I can understand someone not being able to afford high end headphones, that's a different discussion, but that's simply financial abilities, not in actual quality of sound discussion. You are confusing the two. Some people spend more money on audio equipment because it's simply more important to them about the quality of sound and they don't always have millions of dollars at their disposal, they just want good sound quality and understand that it generally costs more money.

For me, I'm always looking to see how I can get the more expensive equipment cheaper by buying used. There are ways to save money that way. My home stereo was predominately bought used because I simply couldn't afford the same equipment new, so I saved a LOT of money buying used from people that took good care of the equipment and I've rarely been disappointed.

it's all what floats one's boat, but definitely go out there and see what's on the market and listen to different products instead of just relying on the local Apple store for stereo equipment. Even if you are an Apple fan, which I am, but I don't buy my higher end stereo equipment from a local Apple Store, they aren't specialists in audio equipment, neither is Best Buy, neither are any of the other mass merchandise stores.

Grado has some nice affordable headphones as does many other companies.

If you have the chance to go to these audiophile shows they have around the country, they have sections specifically catering to headphone users and they'll have TONS of different brands of headphones to check out that range in the lower $100 on up to $5,000. Check them all out to see what you like and don't like. But relying on Beats or Bose for high quality audio? NOPE, they are mass merchandise companies catering to the market that simply buys what is the most promoted/popular. Just like McDonald's caters to those that buy hamburgers from who is the most promoted and most popular, but that's generally NOT the best. I can find great hamburgers for not much more than McDonald's that actually uses high grade beef for about $10 for a meal, which McDonald's is getting VERY close to costing.

1.) I don't have to try to make you people sound like elitists, you do a fine job of that yourselves. It doesn't even sound like you guys could enjoy the music you're listening to. Sitting alone in a room listening to god knows what.
2.) "Accurate" sound? How do you know what's accurate? Because you were in the studio with the engineer and producer?
3.) I have Beats headphones and they sound awesome because I like bass.
4.) I have Bose speakers for my computer because they sound great.
5.) McDonald's is delicious even though there are better cheeseburgers out there.
6.) Please go get laid. You sound way too uptight. :)
 
So Bose is similar to Apple in suing everyone? :eek: :D:D

Sorta. But Bose sues mainly to attack those that have the gall to state/publish an opinion of their products. While Apple, of course, sues those that either use the word "apple" or shapes that Apple has used before. So, it's a little different.

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This is ridiculous! You don't see Bose in studio's because they make CONSUMER based stuff to make records sound good for CONSUMERS! The eq curve is designed in a way to hype certain frequencies and round off the bass to let listeners hear the bass better without distorting the sound. For that purpose Bose can't be touched.
LOL!! It's amazing what people think. Just so we all understand, the highlighted above are all equivalencies.

In a studio you need a sound that is as untreated as possible because your looking for mistakes and problems in the audio. Your not listening to sound for enjoyment purposes when you are using NS10's. Your using them because they show up mid and high frequency problems better. Speakers in a studio are TOOLS not enjoyment devices.
They want as neutral as possible. See, they aren't mixing speakers, they are mixing the music coming through the speakers. They want guitars to sound like guitars, voices to sound like voices, etc.
 
2.) "Accurate" sound? How do you know what's accurate? Because you were in the studio with the engineer and producer?
Seriously, man. What are you on about? I can't speak for the others, but for me, the answer is:
Yes, I have heard guitars, violins, voices, drums, etc. before. I know what they sound like.

I think it's a good night for a little Noir as bedtime music. I assure you, it is enjoyable. Ciao.
 
Anti-choice? It's business! Are you going to make a big stink about Bose stores not carrying Beats headphones too?

That's a good reason.... Why doesn't Apple get rid of B&W, B&O, Parrot and whatever ear buds headphones while they are at it? Just saying....
 
1.) I don't have to try to make you people sound like elitists, you do a fine job of that yourselves. It doesn't even sound like you guys could enjoy the music you're listening to. Sitting alone in a room listening to god knows what.
2.) "Accurate" sound? How do you know what's accurate? Because you were in the studio with the engineer and producer?
3.) I have Beats headphones and they sound awesome because I like bass.
4.) I have Bose speakers for my computer because they sound great.
5.) McDonald's is delicious even though there are better cheeseburgers out there.
6.) Please go get laid. You sound way too uptight. :)

1. It's not an elitist to want good sound quality when we listen to music. Some of us enjoy great sounding music recordings as good as they were SUPPOSED to sound. If the equipment doesn't do it's job, it alters the sound quality and makes your investment in your music catalog to not sound enjoyable. Have you even heard your music catalog with a great sounding system compared to what you currently use? Have you ever listened to $1500 headphones running through a really nice headphone amp/DAC? Some of us have various hobbys or occupations where listening to music is a main focus. Just like some like to drive nice cars, others like boating, etc. It's not being an elitist as much as it is for someone to be kind of ignorant or not concerned about good sounding audio gear. Everyone has their own passions and things that gets them excited about something other than wasting money on tattoos or getting drunk or whatever other hobby someone has. I would rather spend money on audio equipment whereas someone would rather drink that same amount of money.

2. Yes, I've been a musician since I began studying music since 1969 and I've been around various musicians and musical instruments in live performances and recording studios. FYI, have you ever been to a concert hall listening to an orchestra in a great concert hall that didn't need a PA system? To get a system to reproduce that same experience is VERY difficult, but that's what some of us want to experience in our own home.

3. That's great that you like bass, but try this simple and FREE experience. Take your favorite music and your Beats headphones to a local audio dealer that has a pair of HD800's, Audeze, Stax or high end Grado headphones and do a comparison test. See for yourself if you like these others better. Bass is a funny thing. The average person that listens to music on average systems/headphones aren't really listening to accurate bass. What happens is you THINK it's great, but it's not that accurate and it ends up not being natural sounding because it's just not created properly. Most people start out being what audiophiles refer to as BOOM and SIZZLE. That's low fi. High end is not BOOM and SIZZLE, it's more natural and REAL. You'll experience and hear things in your catalog of music on a whole other level and you'll be surprised at how much of the music you don't hear with those headphones. But you have to experience it yourself. Words can't describe the feeling.

4. Bose, same thing. You aren't hearing your catalog of music compared to what it would sound like going through a high end DAC and a good audio system. It's a whole other experience. You are driving a simulated Ferrari on your computer vs going out and actually driving a REAL Ferrari.

Now, you don't have to spend tons of money on a system to get good audio. I know that maybe you can't afford a decent system, but it's possible to get a great system that you'll enjoy a LOT more. How much do you have invested in your music catalog? I'm assuming you actually pay for your content vs stealing it. I have about $20K in my music collection that I've collected over the last few decades, so I've spent more in my catalog of music than the equipment I play it on. I also spend up to about 8 hours in a day listening to music depending on my mood as I like playing music during the day when I'm on my computer doing other things.

5. McDonalds isn't real Beef. It's fake. It's got too much artificial crap in it. Obviously, it's just more convent and a little less money, but it's not made by chefs, it's not high quality beef, but if you want to put crap food in your body or don't mind being brainwashed by a food chain, then maybe you are just gullible to mass marketing.

6. Whether or not I get laid has nothing to do with discussing this subject matter. You seem to be the one that doesn't get it. Maybe you need to listen to better audio equipment but are afraid to. You are wallowing in ignorance. if you can't afford anything more than what you have, then that's a reason not to buy it, but at least listen to better equipment to at least get a real experience in knowing what good audio sounds like. That's free, it doesn't cost anything except for some driving time and spending a couple of hours listening to various music. Why can't you just accept the fact that it just might change your stance on what good audio sounds like? Afraid? Sounds like you just like mediocre. Sounds like your like being part of the masses of those living in a world of mediocrity or maybe you'd rather blow most of your money on booze or drugs.
 
Does Bose have any headphones that look as good as Beats? BOSE has aways had a bad reputation for bad quality but great marketing. If I had to pick one, I go with Beats cause their designs are more modern than the old boring BOSE stuff.
 
Does Bose have any headphones that look as good as Beats? BOSE has aways had a bad reputation for bad quality but great marketing. If I had to pick one, I go with Beats cause their designs are more modern than the old boring BOSE stuff.

How a headphone looks should be the last thing on the list of what to look for.

These are audio equipment, sound quality should be first and most important, how they fit should be second on the list, cost should be third and how they look should be last on the list.

I like these headphones.
 

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How a headphone looks should be the last thing on the list of what to look for.

These are audio equipment, sound quality should be first and most important, how they fit should be second on the list, cost should be third and how they look should be last on the list.

I like these headphones.

:eek:who the hell wants to walk round with those monstrosity's on their head?Good lord those are ugly.
 
:eek:who the hell wants to walk round with those monstrosity's on their head?Good lord those are ugly.

Sounds like you got brainwashed by the ignorant of the masses.

Typical ignorance on your part.

They aren't as heavy as they look, they are only 330 grams w/o cable and the Beats Pros are 400 grams, so they will feel a lot lighter on your noggin and as far as better sounding? They'll kick the Beats and Bose right out of the room. These things are considered some of the top sounding headphones obtainable at this point in time. There are others in the same category that are more expensive, but these will last you a life time of great sounding audio.

I'm about sound quality 1st, you are obviously into looking what you THINK is cool. Oh well, move along with the masses of the ignorant.
 
Does this news mean they are still pulling BOSE from Apple retail?

Why would you want to buy your Bose headphones and speakers at an Apple Store anyways?

Apple rarely demos Bose headphones/speakers at their Stores.

If you want to listen to such headphones before you decide to buy one, it's better to shop for them at an actual Bose Retail Store, or even a Best Buy store, where there are plenty of working demos.

Apple Retail Store employees are not qualified to tell you anything about the technical specs of a Bose speaker. They've probably never put one on their ears.
 
:eek:who the hell wants to walk round with those monstrosity's on their head?Good lord those are ugly.

These are not for people to walk around with, they are headphones to sit back in your room and listen to music. If you want something to walk around with, then get the in ear custom molded UE Pro ear buds by Ultimate Ears.

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Why would you want to buy your Bose headphones and speakers at an Apple Store anyways?

Apple rarely demos Bose headphones/speakers at their Stores.

If you want to listen to such headphones before you decide to buy one, it's better to shop for them at an actual Bose Retail Store, or even a Best Buy store, where there are plenty of working demos.

Apple Retail Store employees are not qualified to tell you anything about the technical specs of a Bose speaker. They've probably never put one on their ears.

Some Apple employees own a variety of brands of headphones or have experience listening to various headphones, but if you really want to check out what's out there instead of just the two B companies, go to a high end audio show where they have a TON of headphones to check out by various brands.

I hate it when people only consider one of two brands and they are battling out with their expensive marketing.

Beats and Bose are NOT the only two companies in the world.

BTW, the new Solo2 by Beats is supposed to be a LOT better than the original version, and it's for people that are on a limited budget, so it's probably a decent choice for those that don't want to spend more than $200 on a pair of headphones than these are OK for the money. There are better sounding phones, but they just cost more money.

My suggestion is to first listen to what are considered the top products regardless of price to get a reference point of what is considered the best sounding by leading audio experts that listen to headphones from everyone. They are experienced listeners that can better judge a product. THEN once you've listened to what they feel are the best "cost no object", that will give you a starting point and then you go down the list in terms of price point until you get something that sounds as close to the top end models within your limited budget. That way you know what to listen for. It's better to go from the best down to what you can afford rather than just comparing other cheap products because your frame of reference is not set well.
 
Most of the malls and shopping centers you find Apple stores at, also have Bose stores.

Usually the outdoor fake italian villa ones XD
 
Addios!

Most Bose equipment is ridiculously overpriced and the performance mediocre at best. Looks nice, though.

Sorta like Beats.

Which makes carrying Bose equipment redundant.

Which is a problem for Bose, since I'd imagine the Apple Store is probably responsible for something like 20% of their sales.

Hopefully this will open up display space for superior portable, wireless speakers from TDK, Sony and Harman/Kardon, among others. There are a slew of portable speakers out there right now that sound better than similar-sized Bose units, and cost 1/3rd to 1/2 as much.
 
How a headphone looks should be the last thing on the list of what to look for.

These are audio equipment, sound quality should be first and most important, how they fit should be second on the list, cost should be third and how they look should be last on the list.

I like these headphones.

I hope you've got a good DAC and AMP for those Sennies. :apple:
 
I'm not a beats fan, but BOSE should never have been sold in apples stores as they are terrible. Skull candy have better products and they're ******.

BOSE is a company that seems to be successful but I still have never seen anyone with a pair or a system and don't know anyone who buys them. They're like a restaurant who never has any customers yet carries on somehow making money appear in their coffers.
 
I'm not a beats fan, but BOSE should never have been sold in apples stores as they are terrible. Skull candy have better products and they're ******.

BOSE is a company that seems to be successful but I still have never seen anyone with a pair or a system and don't know anyone who buys them. They're like a restaurant who never has any customers yet carries on somehow making money appear in their coffers.

Bose does make some good stuff. Their soundlink Bluetooth speaker is fantastic and even though it's expensive it's actually worth it. Unlike Beats headphones which are totally obnoxious and are simply all marketing hype. Whatever though, this doesn't affect me since I buy accessories from other places anyways. Apple stores can't compete price wise with most other places when it comes to accessories.
 
Whenever I see someone wearing Beats or have it hanging on the neck, I see someone who bought it hook, line and sinker and who listens to a poor rendition of what their music is supposed to sound like.
 
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