Way to just ignore most of my points and post opinion videos as evidence. Android Pie isn’t even available for most Androids...case in point.
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Apple Reportedly Reassigned Some Marketing Staff to Work on Bolstering Sales of iPhone XS and iPhone XR
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Or maybe the manufacturer is selling the phones at what they are actually worth? Pricing it high and discounting it to the intended price is an excellent strategy to make the customer feel he got a good deal. I don’t see the Google Pixel at $1200 either. Apple’s the only manufacturer in that price range.
It's that and proffering opinion as fact, which has been going on for the last few pages.
There are only 2 flagship manufacturers on Android which compete with iPhone. Samsung and Google. One of these updates their devices on a regular basis. The other doesn’t. The Android version chart is utterly useless for anyone looking for a flagship device as it includes millions of garbage phones. All flagship Androids are updated for 3 years and as a bonus, no throttling either.
Really? Inflating the MSRP to discount deeply to the price the product is worth, is a great strategy that benefits the customer and manufacturer?
By that logic, apple is selling it's products for what they deem them to be worth. You as the customer decided if the price/value equation works for you.
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You're right, the phones just shut-down unexpectedly.
https://thedroidguy.com/2018/11/galaxy-note-8-randomly-restarts-shuts-troubleshooting-guide-1077925
Its an assumption just like your claim that it sold poorly because they are giving em away.
Except, the facts show that the phone Apple sells for $800 is inferior to the phone Samsung sells at the same price. No opinion here. OLED display, stylus, Dex, Always on display etc
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A simple Google search reveals there are a large number of iPhone X randomly restarting. Do you want me to post the links?
217 million people put their money where their mouths are in the 2017 fiscal year and would beg to differ with you.
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Let me post an equally relevant video for this discussion:
Wrong, my Note 4 didn’t get a single update and shut itself down constantly. Samsung phones don’t get the latest Android for 3 years or my Note 4 should be at least on Oreo but it’s on MARSHMALLOW.
iPhones don’t throttle with a good battery and iOS now tells you that. My Note 4 shut down randomly because Android didn’t tell me the battery was bad and Samsung didn’t support their hardware for me to find out.
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What facts? Do I even want a stylus or Dex, or do I want the best single lens camera, a color accurate Retina display, security, privacy, secure face unlock, latest iOS support, and the best mobile Silicon on the market?
You see, customers value different things. Most people don’t even know what an oled is and if they do, they can buy the XS.
Consumers bought 218M iPhones last year at an ASP of $760. Consumers see the value and pick iPhone more than any phone at that price range, by far. They spent $166B on iPhones. How many Notes were sold? Galaxies? Pixels?
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I didn't make any assumption. I just piggied back off of "your" own facts. The facts that you said the phone is selling for what it's worth.
The facts show the A12 and the neural engine decimate the competition, that makes the phone superior to the competition. Apples OLED is best in class, IOS is better than android etc. Very similarly to explain what you did, I've taken facts and opinion to come up with some conclusion that wouldn't be accepted as a first-grade homework assignment.
The note 9 bootloops due to battery are out there in force. I can post a google search as well to these.
Apple sold 218M iPhones at an average ASP of $760 in 2018 for $166,000,000,000 in revenue.
Here are some others.
Samsung S9: 40M
Note 9: 12M (based on Samsung's own target)
Pixel: 4M
Razer Phone: <1M
HTC U12: <1M
Huawei P20: ~25M (based on disclosed 10M in 5 months)
Huawei Mate 10: ~12M (Based on disclosed 10M in 10 months)
LG V: <3M
LG g7: <3M
So people chose an iPhone about 5 times more than a Samsung and about 3X as often as any Android phone I listed. I don’t even believe Huawei sold 10M P20 in 5 months, but that’s what they said. Every one of them must be in Asia.
Point is, people see the value in iPhone, so they vote with their wallets.
Here are some others.
Samsung S9: 40M
Note 9: 12M (based on Samsung's own target)
Pixel: 4M
Razer Phone: <1M
HTC U12: <1M
Huawei P20: ~25M (based on disclosed 10M in 5 months)
Huawei Mate 10: ~12M (Based on disclosed 10M in 10 months)
LG V: <3M
LG g7: <3M
So people chose an iPhone about 5 times more than a Samsung and about 3X as often as any Android phone I listed. I don’t even believe Huawei sold 10M P20 in 5 months, but that’s what they said. Every one of them must be in Asia.
Point is, people see the value in iPhone, so they vote with their wallets.
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I know of Economics ... funny cause less than 20yrs ago no CEO was paid this huge amount in stock value like we're seeing today on top of bonus' - Exxon, Microsoft, etc.
Yes they were paid in huge stocks but the vested value didn't increase so much before having to cash out.
Have a look at Apple's corporate heirarchy structure ... there is so much overlap it's getting ridiculous.
If Jeff Williams is the COO why do we constantly see him marketing the new Apple Watch S3 and S4? This guy earns his pay (Tim Cook's Tim Cook Fortune Magazine):
2008 - Apple shipped 10 million iPhone's globally.
2015 - Apple shipped 74 million iPhone 6's in 1 quarter alone, COO skills
Doesn't really matter what happened 20 years ago, although I'll point out that if you want to go there, you should try comparing corporate profits 20 years ago for those companies to their profits today.
You can't directly legislate executive compensation. It's not even possible, and besides that, that's the job of free markets.
I'm not sure if you were making some sort of proposal or a pie-in-the-sky "gee wouldn't it be nice if..." statement. Either way, it's a pretty terrible idea as any economist would tell you.
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I've yet to see any evidence that they're "doing bad."
I know plenty of people who bought Samsung flagships and none paid the full list price.
That is just a marketing ploy used by many companies to let customers think they got a better deal. As I recall the Note 9 was available to pre order at list price but with 512gb memory at 128gb price. £200 value. Have seen other offers over the months. Currently the Note 9 on Samsung site is £899 in the UK, but with £150 cash back. Real cash into your bank account.
Also Samsung don't price gouge UK customers like Apple. Samsung $999 US price is £899 in UK.
With Apple, $999 US price is £999 in UK
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My posts indeed is a ‘wouldn’t it be nice if’ idea.
Not as bad as some economists have been this past year as well. This trade spat is going to end up hurting the globe and very vast where only China gains form it either way it can go. There is nothing that the USA can offer China that they cannot get anywhere else and if nobody has been paying attention their putting might into local home grown brands business and agriculture they can get for dirt cheap from the African continent. Just look at USA’s biggest export to them = soy beans; all being stock piled cause price is too low to sell.
Apple is heavily pushing marketing and discounts for the iPhone XR something I haven’t seen since the 5c and we know how terribly that turned out.
I’ve personally just upgraded back the 8; the Xr is a horrible mish-mash of 8 and X. I see no major performance improvements but next year I’ll upgrade to the XS. I feel the Xr was a horrible effort. It’s selling for sure but at what cost?
Yeah, all those iOS switchers to Android Huawei phones.
Post your evidence of Huawei impacting iPhone.
I believe Apple is going to have yet another amazing 4th quarter, with the iPhone XR and iPad Pro being the hot sellers.
The people who want the latest and greatest went with the Xs Max, but most upgraders will likely opt for the Xr.
Now that the series 4 Apple Watch properly supports ECG (in the US at least), I foresee another huge wave of sales.
The iPad Pros are well priced and positioned for many of Apple’s core customers who know and appreciate the value they bring to the table.
Airpods should continue to see steady sales as well, even if they are two years old at this point, not least because the competition hasn’t really caught up either.
All in all, great products serving a need for customers that the tech press doesn’t think exists or are much smaller in number. I guess it just speaks of the way tech media and Wall Street sees Apple vs how the real world views the company and their products.
The people who want the latest and greatest went with the Xs Max, but most upgraders will likely opt for the Xr.
Now that the series 4 Apple Watch properly supports ECG (in the US at least), I foresee another huge wave of sales.
The iPad Pros are well priced and positioned for many of Apple’s core customers who know and appreciate the value they bring to the table.
Airpods should continue to see steady sales as well, even if they are two years old at this point, not least because the competition hasn’t really caught up either.
All in all, great products serving a need for customers that the tech press doesn’t think exists or are much smaller in number. I guess it just speaks of the way tech media and Wall Street sees Apple vs how the real world views the company and their products.
Seems Apple is resorting to in your face marketing and push notifications to increase sales. Sales not good as expected I bet. They are now displaying offers at the store.
https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/08/apple-store-aggressive-iphone-promotion/
If customers are not buying, we may get a reasonable price next year or a XR which is not crippled by an inferior display which people seems smart enough to not buy at this point
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https://9to5mac.com/2018/12/08/apple-store-aggressive-iphone-promotion/
If customers are not buying, we may get a reasonable price next year or a XR which is not crippled by an inferior display which people seems smart enough to not buy at this point
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Their strategy is pretty clear. Lower the unit sales but maintain profits through higher prices. But with all these desperate marketing tactics like demo loop videos, dont think it’s going so well. They are using forum displays for telling the price instead of using it for learning lol.
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Your right the xr, imo, is not selling well. People imo are opting for the Xs and max. We will see. That xr ought to be thinner.
No one would buy an LCD when oled is available. It doesn’t take a genius to know this. The XR was doomed to fail the moment they equipped it with an lcd. Dual cameras should be a standard at that price. You can get an S9 for cheaper and it comes with dual cameras and an oled. It’s a no brainier.
