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Apple Reportedly Stops Production of FineWoven Accessories
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If they're smart, they'll turn this failure into a success and come out with an innovative new case material that no one else is using. But they'll have to be smart, not lazy about it.
This product was setup to fail from the day it was introduced š
i dont chide or dislike apple for having tried to move away from leather.
apple, remember, is all about "The Intersection of Technology and Humanity".
trying to come up with an acceptable replacement for leather will be difficult.
what we all (hopefully) can agree on is that something weird happened in their product review process.
to have approved this material for use in cases and keyholders just seemed to be wrong, from the start.
and yet they continued with it and launched it.
probably at least two levels of product managers should be fired, or, at the very least, be forced to repeat a grade or two in the once famous "apple University".
apple, remember, is all about "The Intersection of Technology and Humanity".
trying to come up with an acceptable replacement for leather will be difficult.
what we all (hopefully) can agree on is that something weird happened in their product review process.
to have approved this material for use in cases and keyholders just seemed to be wrong, from the start.
and yet they continued with it and launched it.
probably at least two levels of product managers should be fired, or, at the very least, be forced to repeat a grade or two in the once famous "apple University".
It either needed to be the quality of leather at the leather price or the quality of finewoven at $20. It did neither of those things.
So what else do we do with the skin of the animals we eat? Let it go to waste? This isnāt a vegan argument. I donāt care if youāre vegan. Iām talking waste of the animals that we know will die for food.
Sure, but nature doesnāt care about ideology. And last time I check, human lives as part of the nature.
Apple might have done some research on this but decide to never release it to the public because it would crash their PR image.
Or more likely, they just donāt care and highlight a few aspects of an infinitely complex system to trick uninitiated.
Is there a general consensus for who makes the best leather case now? I prefer first party and always buy the Apple black leather but assuming thatās not going to be an option when I replace my 12 Pro with a 16 Pro. Just want something clean, not a bunch of gaudy branding and whatnot. Interested to see what they replace FW with too.
Hundreds of comments, but it remains just a rumour that Apple has stopped making these cases.
I know I'm in minority, but my Day 1 case is still going. Looks okay so far, which we would generously call a 'patina.'
I know I'm in minority, but my Day 1 case is still going. Looks okay so far, which we would generously call a 'patina.'
Millions of car buyers disagree with your opinion. The GMT400 vehicles like the Tahoe you describe had typical (for the time) mouse fur cloth seats.
Can people stop using the term 'Vegan Leather'. Its friggin plastic.
A super Quick Look on the Telfar website - the fake leather is 60% Polyurethane, 40% Polyester. FFS.
Please just let us have the old leather ones. They were great.
If people don't want leather they can just not buy them...
If people don't want leather they can just not buy them...
AND there is new data implicating microplastics in cancer, depression, hormonal and endocrine problemsā¦PLASTIC is far more environmentally negative and harmful to human health than any natural material. And so-called āveganā āleatherā tends to be at least 50% plastic.
I was thinking something along those lines as well. But if Apple really cared about environmental issues, I think they'd stop using the ridiculous boxes they use.
Unfortunately I think the boxes are a large part of the "Apple Experience" and Apple probably doesn't want to get rid of them.
And what are the true environmental costs from the mining, refinement, ultra-processing, and pollution of petroleum and petroleum based plastics? Water is not our only concern here. And petroleum products are the gift that keeps on giving ā causing cancer, endocrine disruption, overall disruption of human health and longevity, and of course, lack biodegrability and breaking into even more dangerous micro-particulates which will likely be proven to cross the blood-brain barrier.
YES! I bought a wonderful wood and leather case for one of my ipads. There probably are fully wooden, or wood-and-bamboo (or other natural fiber) cases that would make great replacement cases.
A person has a house built. The builder fails to waterproof the bathroom properly. The owner should have the right to have their purchase price on the house refunded. No questions askedā¦. Which of course is stupid. You need to think about the context of any such claim.
Q: Does the FineWoven cover still protect the phone after 6 months? Yes. Will it look as good as new in 6 months? No. So why should they get a refund when the primary use is protection. Not once did Apple claim the FineWoven cover will look as good as the leather for as long as the leather.
Very specifically Apple say.
The FineWoven material may show wear over time as the fibres get compressed with normal use. Some scratches may diminish over time. Interaction with MagSafe accessories will leave slight imprints. Learn more about material care here. If you are concerned about this, we suggest you use an iPhone 15 Silicone Case or Clear Case.
Most "vegan leather" is not plastic.
Vegan leather can be made from many plant-based fibres, including pineapple leaves (Pinatex), cactus (Desserto leather), cork, mushrooms, coconut husks, kombucha scobies, mango, seaweed and apple peels.
Some people seem to be blaming this on the price, others on the quality issues.
I think a third factor could be that Fine Woven was being tested as a possible leather alternative for the interior of the Apple Car. With the car project cancelled, thereās no need to test it anymore, and low sales mean they can replace it with an off-the-shelf material, probably keeping the premium price point for those who find it worth it to go with a first party case.
I think a third factor could be that Fine Woven was being tested as a possible leather alternative for the interior of the Apple Car. With the car project cancelled, thereās no need to test it anymore, and low sales mean they can replace it with an off-the-shelf material, probably keeping the premium price point for those who find it worth it to go with a first party case.
This is cool. Interestingly I just got an āapple leatherā (made in part from apple peels) wallet from Oliver Co. London and itās fantastic. Maybe Apple can pivot to apple and have fun with the marketing.
The irony of it all is that this environmental virtue signaling has been decidedly detrimental to the environment. Everyone that wanted a leather case just got theirs elsewhere. Those that were persuaded to try this purchased and either immediately returned or tossed in the trash, resulting in more carbon emissions and waste than if Apple had just stayed in its lane in the first place. Will Apple learn its lesson? Of course not. But wildly amusing to watch.