Think they were Kuo in disguise?Yeah that’s what the article says…
They did this with the original iPhone. $200 price cut after 2 months, and the 2nd gen device had carrier subsidized pricing.I don’t believe that at all. Apple would not cancel a project like this just after launching the first gen product. I’m sure that they will even release a cheaper version along with the successor of the current one.
Arguably, a very similar (maybe even closer) trajectory occurred with the HomePod. The HomePod mini supplanted the full sized HomePod until the 2nd gen eventually came out.It's not atypical for dramatic strategical changes to happen like this. The price needs to be dropped fast for adoption to become mainstream. Apple did the same* with the iPhone (1st generation) and iPhone 3G.
iPhone (1st generation)'s price was dropped* within months. https://www.macrumors.com/2007/09/05/8gb-iphone-price-drop-4gb-iphone-discontinued/
And iPhone 3G started at $199*. A lot of upgrades were left out for it to focus dropping the price.
* UPDATE: I want to correct and state that the price was subsidized by carriers, but customers saw a decreased upfront cost which was effective in increasing adoption.
How often do people talk about the Mac Studio or the Mac Pro?Considering no one is even talking about it anymore ……yeah it’s a flop. No one cares and in this economic climate can’t stomach 3500 bucks for a giant TV screen strapped to your skull with a 2 hour battery life
The real competition would be the Meta Quest Pro, not the Quest 3. At $1500, it would leave even less room for the Quest Pro at $1000. Button up the premium market, let Meta compete in the low end (until Apple eventually can deliver a Vision headset for the sub-$800 market).The future of this is with cheaper prices. Even at $1500 that is expensive, though much easier to stomach then the price of the Vision Pro. Is it still too expensive though when you have the Quest 3 which has great features, good screens and WAY more to do in VR then Apple has. Apple is generally good at recreating a category and making it wanted by the masses. I don't think they have proven that with the Vision Pro yet. The price for the Vision Pro is obscene though for such a limited device.
How often do people talk about the Mac Studio or the Mac Pro?
Has it occurred to you that this product is still only months old in the hands of developers and consumers? I’m not going to claim it’s perfect but ironing out software and firmware is what excels at. How many billions has meta dumped into their vision of the future; one that is still inferior to VP in many respects- even after many iterations and “high end prototypes.” There are plenty of ways that this could still garner a significant adaptation rate, and meet all your armchair analysis criteria going forward.Apple’s definitely in a weird spot with VP.
On one hand, I don’t think they’ve demonstrated how it’s a significantly better experience for most computing tasks. The most compelling are (1) productivity on the go (2) unique entertainment experiences.
For (1), they need to improve the FoV and quality of cameras and battery life to make useable for work on flights and such.
For (2), they need a plethora of spatial content like the sports games they demonstrated and more movies and personal videos with spatial/3D aspect to them. But then it’s a chicken/egg problem bc normies don’t have the VP since it’s so expensive. So they need to push for cheaper mainstream VP.
But most importantly for both, they need to significantly cut down on the weight and bulk of the headset so that putting it on and taking it off is no more burdensome then actual goggles.
Feel like the tech isn’t there to make this more than a high end prototype.
It certainly doesn't help that Apple has completely abandoned and sometimes even antagonized its developer community in recent years. Man, early iPhone/iPad indie apps made such a difference.Apple assumed the public would "just figure it out" but we can't really see their vision beyond the relatively basic set of capabilities they've given us
I know you see my signature. I’ve got nearly every recently released Apple device, including Hermes Apple Watch.Sounds like you desperately wish you could afford one to me… yknow what’s so dumb about statements like this? The original Apple 2e was about 3k cad at launch. Adjust that to modern day currency value, it isn’t far off from where we are today with Vision Pro. Frankly the haters of this product are limited by their own sense of hyperbole and have absolutely zero vision of the future. Pun fully intended.
Exactly this. Well said. In a thread that is so full of negativity yet. I would rather did this than do nothing and never react forward again. One thing is for certain, there will never be a lack of people smarter than the executives at . Almost everyone here seems to be hot and ready to succeed Tim Cook and make it all work properly.I am obviously not an executive at Apple, and Apple has overcome and gloom for decades.
I am genuinely curious to see in this category of devices how it’s all going to go over the next few years.
So the VP needs glasses?…the displays need to be sharper and brighter.
Actually, every product Apple releases has its chorus of doomsayers, and it’s rare that Apple fails at a product. And rarely do those doomsayers recognize they were wrong.Every failed device has its loyalist like you, who will defend it to your last breath. But the story always ends the same, being cancelled and the loyalist become sentimental.
Perhaps you should define what people can and can’t say or discuss prior to anyone posting anything. Would that make it all better for you?Not sure who needs to hear this (again)..
AVP is not the iPhone
It's not even remotely similar, nor is Apple leadership at this time
Let's please stop even mentioning comparisons to the iPhone, its launch and subsequent changes and price adjustments, etc
I would rather did this than do nothing and never react forward again.
Perhaps you should define what people can and can’t say or discuss prior to anyone posting anything. Would that make it all better for you?
I think the product is great. I think they just need to be at the $2499 price point for the Pro and $1999 for regular.I think in some time we'll see news of Apple scraping the entire Vision product line... Horrible product unless they can make the cheaper model less than $1500