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Sorry, then you use a really narrow definition of IT yourself.

I didn't create the definition. Pick up a CIO magazine sometime if you want more proof of this definition...or check Gartner or Forrester.

Besides, Apple dropped the "computer" from its name simply because it wanted to appeal to the masses in a way that expanded its marketing prowess beyond the usual nerdish realm of "computers"...

Not entirely true...in 1997 Apple dropped the term "computer" from its title largely because Apple wanted to be more of an "electronics" company like Sony that dabbles in software, non-computer devices/hardware, computers, cell phones, and music/video entertainment. Apple's iPods had been selling like mad and Apple was about to get into the cellular phone market (6 months later). I (and likely others) feel that the term "computer" really no longer applied to Apple since the company was clearly marketing towards non-computer devices (iPod, iPhone, iTunes). Besides, the Macs then and still today account for less than 10% marketshare. The "nerdish" phrase you invented was nothing about the decision to drop "computer".

and the whole world is gonna go bananas again with the tablet on Wednesday...trust me.

I, and lots of others, am eagerly awaiting the tablet...what will it cost? What will it's main features be? What type of consumer/owner will need one vs. want one? What limitations/restrictions will it have (compared to, for example, the iPhone only runs on ATT)? If it's intended to read books: who owns the content?...how can I transfer the content?...what if my tablet breaks or is stolen (do I need to buy it again)?...where can I buy the content?

I'm very excited for it...but if it's simply an e-book reader to compete with the Kindle, I don't need nor want it...and neither does my wife who reads 1-2 books a week...every week of the year.

-Eric
 
I know it is. I've been watching it go downhill for years to be honest. I suspect Apple would be more content having drones with open wallets though. It brings the 1984 ad to mind.

Thinking different or thinking need not apply.

Your depressive words almost touch me, Eidorian...for 20 years people have been used to inferior products; so now that they are FINALLY waking up to a better experience, you think they represent lemmings?

I've been using Apple products since 1989 because they constitute a much friendlier, quality offering when compared to Windows...the same for the dozens of people I've converted to Apple...they are NOT coming back. It's not about marketing gimmicks or RDFs, it's about ease of use, hardware/software integration, better support and overall build quality...so no, listening to The Cure is not necessary here.
 
41% margin..>!!

AAPL clearly has plenty of customers who like getting shafted... they applaud it even..!

That's GROSS margin. Not net margin. Microsoft has around 80% gross margin. Intel has 60%. So who's really getting shafted?

--Eric
 
1)I am enjoying Apple's success

2)I work with and around IT vendors every day...and have been for 10+ years. While you may find a "definition" to suit your needs, you are the only one on the Earth that is labeling Apple as an IT company. By your interpretation of your definition, every single computer software company and computer hardware company is defined as an IT company...IT companies provide far more "services" than simply selling you a packaged (off-the-shelf) software or hardware product. Those services usually include custom software code, custom bug fixes, subject matter expertise and design of a complete "solution", training and certifications, negotiated pricing and support contracts, etc. Hence companies like IBM, HP, and EMC are defined (and advertise themselves) as IT companies. Sure, IT companies may also sell packaged software solutions or hardware pieces...but just because a company creates software does not designate it as an "IT company"...that would be like stating all animals with tails are categorized as dogs.

WOW!This is SOO not worth arguing about!Has someone got O.C.D.?
 
I know it is. I've been watching it go downhill for years to be honest. I suspect Apple would be more content having drones with open wallets though. It brings the 1984 ad to mind.

Thinking different or thinking need not apply.

So what are we suppsoed to do? Use Windows on generic PCs??

That's usally what drones (92% of the market) are doing. Walk in, ask for a "computer" that "has the internet" and get directed to a PC with MS' latest version of the Worst Operating System Known To Man. And then in about a month ask the IT guy at work if they could do them a favour and "clean" their computer.

LOL.
 
Wow. Did you work for the Goebbels Ministry of Propaganda in a previous life???

I take it all back. God bless Apple. God bless St. Steve! Please take my money. I don't care what you foist on us. I love you!!!!!!


Is that better? :confused:

A little.Keep working on it.
 
Your depressive words almost touch me, Eidorian...for 20 years people have been used to inferior products; so now that they are FINALLY waking up to a better experience, you think they represent lemmings?

I've been using Apple products since 1989 because they constitute a much friendlier, quality offering when compared to Windows...the same for the dozens of people I've converted to Apple...they are NOT coming back. It's not about marketing gimmicks or RDFs, it's about ease of use, hardware/software integration, better support and overall build quality...so no, listening to The Cure is not necessary here.

So what are we suppsoed to do? Use Windows on generic PCs?

LOL.
Predictability aside Apple wants my money. I think too much to give them my money. Does Apple want me?

All of this has happened before and it will happen again.
 
Sorry, but you're a right fool.
In 2007 SJ said "10 million a year" not "a quarter"

And I just love that completely over-the-top Reuters headline. So, slightly missing an analyst forecast is now "lackluster".

I love it when people don't do their research before posting!
 
So what are we suppsoed to do? Use Windows on generic PCs?

*raises hand*

I think what you're supposed to do is run OS X illegally on homebuilt Frankenboxes and then hang out at a Mac users' forum to tell them how stupid they are for buying the real deal. :rolleyes:
 
These quarterly earnings are remarkable. I can only imagine what the next quarter will bring with the release of the new product.
 
What's "wrong" with the userbase?
Surprisingly enough you always post it but haven't seemed to noticed. We're at the top why do we invite everyone else?

What bothers me the most up here is how praising Apple endlessly and being on "Apple's side" some how ends up being turned into a license to do whatever you want.

Thankfully Page 1 does manage to take care of that on its own. I could write much, much more but I don't see the need or value.
 
Surprisingly enough you always post it but haven't seemed to noticed. We're at the top why do we invite everyone else?

What bothers me the most up here is how praising Apple endlessly and being on "Apple's side" some how ends up being turned into a license to do whatever you want.

Thankfully Page 1 does manage to take care of that on its own.

What are you talking about? :confused:
 
MSFT

4/08 15.837B 4.297B
1/09 15.961b 4.373B
2/09 16.629B 4.174B
3/09 13.648B 2.977B
4/09 13.099B 3.045B
1/10 12.920B 3.574B

As you can see, these numbers have taken a massive hit during the recession, they were more like 4-5B before. That also means they're inevitably going to bounce back, simply because they still have that cozy, convenient thing called monopoly in both OS and office software markets.

Apple: by far not the most profitable tech company.
Don't forget, we're talking about their Xmas quarter here. Their next quarter will be much, much smaller in revenue and profit.

There bump upwards was on the release of Windows 7 and who says Apple's growth also didn't take a hit during the recession? Microsoft's net income is up last quarter but revenue is still dropping, with netbooks on the rise i don't see these figures going up that much.

A successful tablet is enough to shift the balance, very plausible.
 
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