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Not when *new* consumers line up in record numbers to be "gouged" every quarter, despite the availability of lower-cost alternatives (MS and the junkbox makers, al la Laptop Hunters.)

it's called A Better Value Proposition.

nope, its called better marketing or lying depending on where your sympathy lies.

it will pass....

Apple continue to be a rounding error.. :p;)
 
1)Most electronic devices these days, are, by pure definition, a computer or computer system. To the layman who generally defines "computer" as "personal computer", neither an iPod nor an iPhone is a "computer" to him.

2)OSX, my friend, is a software application. More accurately, OSX is an Operating System (a subset of "software application").

3)IT stands for Information Technology. While you probably want me to sit here and write forever, you can go look up what an IT company provides for products and services and some examples. Here's a hint: IBM is an IT company. Apple is not an IT company. Sony is not an IT company. EMC would likely consider itself an IT company.

Case closed.

What is an IT company?
In: Business Law [Edit categories]
Answer
A corporation that deals in Information Technology, usually computers and software.

information technology (abbr.: IT)
noun
the study or use of systems (esp. computers and telecommunications) for storing, retrieving, and sending information.

Do you really want to insist? I suggest you relax and rejoice in Apple's success.
 
yawn, a troll emerges from under the bridge

Good news for Apple but this begs some SERIOUS questions...
With all of these resources why can't they...A) Fix the audio problems on the Mac Pro 2009, which cause the machine to overheat when just playing an mp3?....B) Produce a decent iMac, in any form....C) Fix their mid 09 MacBook Pros so that you can put in a larger third party drive without rendering the machine unusable?...

This means all of their machines (aside from the mini, but who wants that rip job?) have major MAJOR problems...yet they make a killing off all of them. I know I have been affected by 2 of these 3 problems, and they are absolute disasters for me. Majorly affecting how I can work.

Some of you guys don't realize that Apple is just as "evil" if not more so than Microsoft. They are screwing you and you guys are applauding them for it!

I am sorry for the disaster, stress and lack of productivity over your inability to play mp3's. I am also sorry you cannot put a regular sized hard drive in your laptop. It must also upset you that your car's DieHard battery will not fit either. It is a shame that companies make money on crappy products, perhaps you should become a "pc" and see how true that really is.

All snark aside, if you feel that strongely (albeit misguided), why on earth would you CHOOSE to spend money with such an evil maker of inferior products??

Apple products, hardware and software, are not perfect.... but generally their stuff is a cut above the rest. Lastly, if their products are SO inferior, WHY is EVERYONE copying them?

After reading through your thread posting history, I declare you a shill, and a troll.
cheers,
michael

PS: written on one of my 3 iMacs, oh... and I was listening to an MP4/AAC song while writing this. MP3? maybe the problem is in the song you downloaded off Limewire? Good thing those iMacs are more functional than those Pros.
 
If you have the recent release of the iMac, then no it doesn't work perfectly. You may be satisfied, but you over paid a great deal for a machine with some serious defects in it.

Every Apple machine produced today currently has ridiculous problems that no one would stand for on the PC side, but for some reason we Apple users do.

I call used bullfood until you name them
 
iPhone channel inventory went up from 2.4 million iphones in September quarter to 2.7 million iphones in the christmas quarter.

So Apple really only sold 8.4 million iphones in the christmas quarter.

Nonsense. Channel inventory doesn't count as sales (unless a company wants a lot of trouble with the SEC), therefore change in channel inventory doesn't affect sales. What it means is that Apple built 9.0 million iPhones and sold 8.7 million.
 
gross margin....

remember Apple retails a lot of its own stuff.

You do know that in retail the margins are a LOT thinner? (And you do know how much of Apple sales come from the retail segment?)

EDIT: Wait a minute. You're not confusing margins with net profit, are you?
 
All they need to buy Microsoft is $220 billion more (give or take, based on hostile takeover). Piece of cake...

You'll probably need like 30% on top of the current $260B, that's the regular extra companies pay for non-hostile takeovers. A hostile takeover is pretty much impossible, since BG, SB, PA et al. still own significant parts of the company.
It's like wanting to buy Berkshire Hathaway without asking Warren Buffett. Good luck with that. :cool:
 
It's not. MS is making more money, and more money per revenue.

These girls don't like to face the truth. I can understand the logic of choosing one product over another, but what do you people get out of lying to yourself and convincing yourself that Apple is more profitable and makes more money than Microsoft? It's pretty sad and pathetic.
 
Wow, 15.68 bil turnover yet ONLY 3.38 profit! Almost true to the rule of you have to make 3 times the profit you earn.
Wonder how much was App sales? And how long can the iPod last? I think we're not far off a Nano iTouch and nano iPhone, why else would you want to pinch to zoom menu's?

Amazing performance for a company that's been sued and counter sued, battled yet again for the copyright for it's OS from pirates, and the Company boss man and name synonymous with Apple has been off ill for most of the year. Brilliant.

I like the iPhone stats. When it first came out I laughed my ass off, because of it's very low specs, but yet I loved it's OS and found it's interface was revolutionary and exactly what mobiles needed. A couple of years later the specs caught up to match the amazing OS, the apps store is packed and I buy an iPhone 3GS as I can do what I want with it now and buy the apps I want. I haven't looked back and I know sssoooooooooooooo many people who have brought iPhones.
So with the predicted iPhone 4 specs it will only attract an even bigger market.
Can only see next year as being a better result.

And just think, this is a peanuts results list compared to oil company's and banks etc.
 
Brasil

This will only go down with tariff-reduction international trade agreements (Doha Round anyone?), and other political measures to reduce the influence and at the same time increase competitiveness of the local industry (there are a lot of electronics companies there benefitting from these "invisible" barriers to entry).

Brazil would also need a LOT of tax simplification measures...as a Brazilian, I must say its complexity and bureaucracy are way higher even than places like the US.

Could be related to blocking Brazilian sugar into the US!
 
No. Macs, iPods and iPhones are all computers, not to mention OS X as a system; therefore, Apple is overwhelmingly an IT company.

That's highly debatable. As someone else said, Sony is making exactly the same kind of stuff (minus Mac OS) and not an IT company per se either.

There's a reason why Apple dropped the "computer" from their name.
 
Monopolies are NOT illegal when they arise from innovation and legitimate growth...sorry to burst your bubble.

This is so not the point.
They're still extremely bad for the customer because they kill innovation and cause artificially high prices.
 
Nonsense. Channel inventory doesn't count as sales (unless a company wants a lot of trouble with the SEC), therefore change in channel inventory doesn't affect sales. What it means is that Apple built 9.0 million iPhones and sold 8.7 million.

Channel inventory counts as "shipped" and all Apple SEC financial numbers are "shipped" numbers.

This isn't a "consignment shop" --- the carriers pay Apple the full amount for all the iphones that they received. Whether the carriers can sell the iphones, that's the carriers' problem.
 
You do know that in retail the margins are a LOT thinner? (And you do know how much of Apple sales come from the retail segment?)

Archipelago (variant): definition: a string of tur.....islands along a tectonic fault. Like a couple of others here he has adamantly...uh, unusual opinions which are not subject to debate by mere mortals.
 
Who would've thought that, HUH? Now again: WHERE ARE THE GENIUSES that keep on disagreeing with me when I say MS IS DEFUNCT? The BEST quarter in Apple's history without even launching the world-changing tablet, a device that is gonna reinvent the whole media/press market.

Apple is the biggest, most successful, most enviable, most innovative and most profitable IT company in the world. Thank you, SJ, for providing us with the BEST personal computers, the BEST OS, the BEST smartphones, the BEST tablet and the BEST media players in the globe!

In summary, Apple will be able to shut MS down in less than 5 years and dispose of its putrid remains with little fanfare...

MS IS DEAD, BURIED, ROTTEN. FOR REAL.

I don't have to be a 'genius' to see that you are a fool. Apple is not the biggest IT company in the world. Many of us would also disagree about how innovative they are.

YOU NEED A BREAK. FOR REAL.

Rothchild, once more: this is an Apple forum talking about a record-breaking quarter and populated by Apple fans. Trolling and blind criticism are not warranted here.

Nor common sense.
 
Case closed.

What is an IT company?
In: Business Law [Edit categories]
Answer
A corporation that deals in Information Technology, usually computers and software.

information technology (abbr.: IT)
noun
the study or use of systems (esp. computers and telecommunications) for storing, retrieving, and sending information.

Do you really want to insist? I suggest you relax and rejoice in Apple's success.

1)I am enjoying Apple's success

2)I work with and around IT vendors every day...and have been for 10+ years. While you may find a "definition" to suit your needs, you are the only one on the Earth that is labeling Apple as an IT company. By your interpretation of your definition, every single computer software company and computer hardware company is defined as an IT company...IT companies provide far more "services" than simply selling you a packaged (off-the-shelf) software or hardware product. Those services usually include custom software code, custom bug fixes, subject matter expertise and design of a complete "solution", training and certifications, negotiated pricing and support contracts, etc. Hence companies like IBM, HP, and EMC are defined (and advertise themselves) as IT companies. Sure, IT companies may also sell packaged software solutions or hardware pieces...but just because a company creates software does not designate it as an "IT company"...that would be like stating all animals with tails are categorized as dogs.
 
It's not. MS is making more money, and more money per revenue.

I could be wrong but last year Microsoft had a quarterly net-income of $3.05 billion, it's not yet consistently so for every quarter but the writing is on the wall. Microsoft is every year less profitable and heavily relying on 2 major cashcows, the tipping point can't be that far off.
 
1)I am enjoying Apple's success

2)I work with and around IT vendors every day...and have been for 10+ years. While you may find a "definition" to suit your needs, you are the only one on the Earth that is labeling Apple as an IT company. By your interpretation of your definition, every single computer software company and computer hardware company is defined as an IT company...IT companies provide far more "services" than simply selling you a packaged (off-the-shelf) software or hardware product. Those services usually include custom software code, custom bug fixes, subject matter expertise and design of a complete "solution", training and certifications, negotiated pricing and support contracts, etc. Hence companies like IBM, HP, and EMC are defined (and advertise themselves) as IT companies. Sure, IT companies may also sell packaged software solutions or hardware pieces...but just because a company creates software does not designate it as an "IT company".

Sorry, then you use a really narrow definition of IT yourself.

Besides, Apple dropped the "computer" from its name simply because it wanted to appeal to the masses in a way that expanded its marketing prowess beyond the usual nerdish realm of "computers"...and the whole world is gonna go bananas again with the tablet on Wednesday...trust me.
 
A 100% year-over-year rise in iPhone sales. That's insane.

However, quarterly iPhone sales are all over the place depending on new releases etc. Quite unlike iPod and Mac sales which are rather stable (on a very nice upward curve). iPhone sales would be a nightmare for anyone studying statistics :D
 
Besides, Apple dropped the "computer" from its name simply because it wanted to appeal to the masses in a way that expanded its marketing prowess beyond the usual nerdish realm of "computers"...and the whole world is gonna go bananas again with the tablet on Wednesday...trust me.
I worry for the user base. Who is going to turn the lights off when it's over?
 
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