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Apple Responds to Reports of Final Cut Pro Refocusing

aftk2 said:
With respect, I would have to say that is the ugliest piece of software I've seen in a long time.
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I agree, that is absolutely disgusting. Very PC-ish. I guess that screenshot is from a PC running windoze? That's why people with any sense of style use Macs.

The fonts look bad, the overall design looks terrible and that's probably why I don't ever touch PC's with windoze on them, even with a ten foot pole.
 
At lunch today with the other editors we had an rip apple fest and the one thing that came out of it was the realization that the reason the whole "pro" community is P.O'd over this rumor is that over the last 6 years or so (when did that ithingy come out again?) there has been a growing awareness that Steve Jobs's definition of "awesome" is very different then the video professionals definition of "awesome".

Video Pro's definition: Better round tripping to Color, bug fixes, better media management (perhaps an album view in FC?), more codec options, higher end compositing tools, better keyer, ect...

Steve Jobs's definition: Look you can edit your iphone movie on your ipad! Awesome!
 
I just have ONE wish!

PLEASE! PLEASE! Apple yank the price up to 50k just to stop the whining iMovie users from posting here!!!! :D

And ONE MORE THING!

Kill iMovie and spend the money on making FCS amazzzzing :p
 
pixelcruncher said:
I've got a timeline for a 30-minute show with HDCAM, DVCProHD, Digibeta, and Beta source footage in a 720p uncompressed timeline in a dual 2.7 G5 box with a simple Kona card and it all plays back without any rendering whatsoever. You've got to be working on a really wimpy rig, or maybe using that AVCHD or HDV consumer crap. Interframe compression is a mess to edit with, every edit requires recalculations for the whole clip.
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Yeah you can play anything back using draft quality. You're gonna need to render that bad boy if you lay it to tape though.
 
Small White Car said:
Off-topic, but I really feel like we don't NEED Mac Pro updates until SSD drives get cheaper. Hard drives are such a huge bottleneck on these machines...what's the point in even updating them at all right now? My Mac Pro never runs at full speed...it's constantly waiting on hard drives!
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Small Car - what if you use eSATA drives? Is there a big bottleneck with those?
malch
 
aftk2 said:
With respect, I would have to say that is the ugliest piece of software I've seen in a long time.
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z4n3 said:
I sure hell hope Apple does not look here!!! this is all we need!!! :eek:

Moving on people nothing to see here.......

Back to the ORIGINAL SUBJECT!!!


:apple: FINAL CUT STUDIO!!!! NOT iMOVIE OR ADOBE!!!!
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It may be ugly, it may not be the best laid out - but for $79; the features, the precise controls it gave you, I thnk it was 15 video an 15 audio timelines, easy to separate the video from the audio tracks (I used to take one video and set a totally different audio to it), etc.

I Used that software for a number of years with Windows XP.

I hear premiere in CS5 is still this way, but who has $1,000 for one piece of software. it would be a different story if I did video editing professionally, or was paid decent for the stuff I do. Even a person I know who has a good job and puts out more professional videos uses the macs at the college he works at, as he cannot afford the software either.
 
I didn't see what sparked the jumpiness, but after thinking about why that would happen, The new version of Quicktime came to mind! Ughhh!
 
AdamJD said:
I didn't see what sparked the jumpiness, but after thinking about why that would happen, The new version of Quicktime came to mind! Ughhh!
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I recently upgraded to Snow Leopard and yep, it didn't take me long to find out how to install Quicktime 7 after seeing how the new Quicktime was.
 
The same "pro-sumerization" looked like it was occurring with Logic Pro, with the addition of all the faux-Guitar-studio plugins and effects in 9.x; touted as a major new feature - and one entirely useless for a large number of professional workflows.

However other additions like Flex Time, major improvements to delay compensation and continued improvement to take management and audio-centric editing, made it one of the better updates in a long while. Since 5.5 in my opinion.

If Final Cut goes in the same direction, it only means accessibility to a larger user-base and thus even wider support across the video/moving image market.
 
I get the feeling that people are really sensitive about labels.

I don't see why a label of 'prosumer' or 'professional' on software should make any difference. It's an editing package we're talking about. It's just a tool and if it does what you need it to do then who the hell cares what it's called by some marketing drone.

And second, do you really fear that Apple will dumb down one of its flagship packages beyond recognition? Apple is many things but it's not completely stupid. People seem to forget that.

In the end, I think the whole rumor is simply based on some journalist writing 'pro consumer' instead of 'pro customer'. That's obviously a huge difference in some people's minds.
 
Black Macbook said:
I agree, that is absolutely disgusting. Very PC-ish. I guess that screenshot is from a PC running windoze? That's why people with any sense of style use Macs.

The fonts look bad, the overall design looks terrible and that's probably why I don't ever touch PC's with windoze on them, even with a ten foot pole.
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Yes. that is what I used when I was on Windoze. Now that I am mac only, my choices are somewhat limited. I ran that thing on a virtual PC for a while until it would just not work anymore. My choices now that I am stuck with:

imovie - current version, very limited in what I can do.
imovie 6 HD - has more controls, and more timelines, but slow to work with.
FC express - I have the 2008 version and am finding it very painful to work with and learn.

My personal budget does not let me spend over $200 for software, so that is why I liked what I had. but I am in the market for something new.

if you can point me to something within $200 or less, that was that feature rich of what I described - I will look into it.
 
I'd love some "Prosumer" features added! That way, I can get more work done instead of taking non-stop tech support calls from other users who haven't taken the time to learn FCP. Easier for them = more time for me. :cool:
 
shervieux said:
if you can point me to something within $200 or less, that was that feature rich of what I described - I will look into it.
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I am sorry, but I cannot.

However, as I wrote in the other thread about FCP, maybe if Apple is feeling generous, they will make the same move that they did when they released a newer version of Logic a while back. They drastically cut the price. Maybe they can do the same with FCP when the new one comes out. Cheaper + more features, that would qualify as being "awesome" in my book.
 
The Captain said:
...there has been a growing awareness that Steve Jobs's definition of "awesome" is very different then the video professionals definition of "awesome".
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Yeah, these last few years at Apple, Steve has shown himself to be a total moron who is completely out of touch with the marketplace. I certainly wouldn't trust him at the helm of a large corporation.

Can't one of those video professionals you mentioned develop their own editing package? They seem to have a far better grasp of what it takes to be successful. Poor Steve simply hasn't a clue.
 
Small White Car said:
Off-topic, but I really feel like we don't NEED Mac Pro updates until SSD drives get cheaper. Hard drives are such a huge bottleneck on these machines...what's the point in even updating them at all right now? My Mac Pro never runs at full speed...it's constantly waiting on hard drives!
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Get a RAID 0 array and a decent backup solution then. It'll be cheaper and last longer than a corresponding SSD setup. Plus you'll also have more space.
 
malch said:
Small Car - what if you use eSATA drives? Is there a big bottleneck with those?
malch
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eSATA is just the same SATA as internal drives, with a shielded cable and connector for external connections.

An eSATA external HDD will perform exactly like the same HDD mounted internally. An eSATA external SSD - ditto.
 
usasalazar said:
Apple could announce free MacBook Pros for everyone and someone will still click "negative.". :confused:
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How dare they not include the matte option for free on the free machines, and how dare they send us a 1099 and make us pay tax on the free machines ... cough Oprah's free car giveaway.
 
shervieux said:
if you can point me to something within $200 or less, that was that feature rich of what I described - I will look into it.
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I'll point you to something free: use what you already have, FCE. Yeh I know, it's on your "black list" but stick with it. FCP/FCE can be a frustrating beast at times. I'm not sure what's worse: fighting the software or fighting your own creativity but you'll eventually get it.
 
Small White Car said:
Off-topic, but I really feel like we don't NEED Mac Pro updates until SSD drives get cheaper. Hard drives are such a huge bottleneck on these machines...what's the point in even updating them at all right now? My Mac Pro never runs at full speed...it's constantly waiting on hard drives!
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Sounds like you need a RAID.
 
Frazzle said:
Yeah, these last few years at Apple, Steve has shown himself to be a total moron who is completely out of touch with the marketplace. I certainly wouldn't trust him at the helm of a large corporation.

Can't one of those video professionals you mentioned develop their own editing package? They seem to have a far better grasp of what it takes to be successful. Poor Steve simply hasn't a clue.
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You have a little of Steve Jobs poop on you nose.
 
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