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"Final Cut Pro is the first choice for professional video editors, and we've never been more excited about its future," Apple spokesman Bill Evans told CNET. "The next version of Final Cut is going to be awesome, and our pro customers are going to love it."

Jeez do they all have to sound as giddy and cheesy as Steve Jobs about their products.

What do you expect them to say...It's gonna be lame and no one is gonna like it :rolleyes:

I'm stoked about the news however cheesy :D
 
Get a RAID 0 array and a decent backup solution then. It'll be cheaper and last longer than a corresponding SSD setup. Plus you'll also have more space.
Yeh RAID 0 definitely made a difference for me. I recently got 2 1 TB drives, put them in a RAID 0 config, did a fresh OS install on them, and it really felt like a new machine. The OS and CS installs literally took minutes. If you do any video editing, the raid block size when you set it up in disk utility makes a difference. (I think mine is 512 but you'll want to experiment for your setup.)

For FCP and other sequential reads, you can't beat a RAID 0 config for price/performance but for random reads and writes, SSD really is the future. They're way too small to be useful for pro editing right now but maybe in few years we'll have 500 GB SSDs for a decent price.
 
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This is almost as convoluted as a Windows UI. :eek:

Ghastly.
 
THAT BECAUSE IT IS A WINDOWS SOFTWARE!

Ok ok I will give my older version of FCE another try. hopefully now there are better tutorials out there.

Of course it's going to look bad when the window is resized in a 400x500 window. Maximize the window and you'll see it looks good.

It doesn't take much to beat the ugliness of FCP though. :p
 
THAT BECAUSE IT IS A WINDOWS SOFTWARE!
Which explains it. :)

Apple needs to look at this, if they want to come up with a low cost prosumer software.
Not in this regard, they don't.

With respect, I would have to say that is the ugliest piece of software I've seen in a long time.
Agreed.

I sure hell hope Apple does not look here!!! this is all we need!!! :eek:
Doubly agreed.
 
Theres no reason Apple cant expand prosumer and professional tools at the same time. Thats what Logic 9 is.
 
Off-topic, but I really feel like we don't NEED Mac Pro updates until SSD drives get cheaper. Hard drives are such a huge bottleneck on these machines...what's the point in even updating them at all right now? My Mac Pro never runs at full speed...it's constantly waiting on hard drives!


I'm torn with this as well. My 3.2Ghz Octo 2008 Mac Pro is still a wonderful machine held back only by the speed limits of clunky hard drives.
 
I'm torn with this as well. My 3.2Ghz Octo 2008 Mac Pro is still a wonderful machine held back only by the speed limits of clunky hard drives.

you need a RAID my son

I just installed two F3s in a RAID 0 the other day. It's pretty quick.
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Keep in mind, this is just a software RAID of only 2 HDDs; you could see even better performance with more HDDs.
That said, SSDs are better for boot drives. I'm going to replace my 640 Black boot HDD with an OWC or OCZ SSD soon.
 
CNET reports that Apple has issued a response to yesterday's report that the company is working to "rethink" its Final Cut Pro offerings as the balanc
Again, MORE DIRECT EVIDENCE that the current MacSLOW (I mean Pro) line of computers is EOL'ed.
 
Not sure why people are buying that marketing talk. It means absolutely
nothing. "Awesome" might simply be "export to iPad", seriously...
Jobs will demonstrate it on stage, very proud and then will ask:
"isn't this awesome?"
 
Yeah, these last few years at Apple, Steve has shown himself to be a total moron who is completely out of touch with the marketplace. I certainly wouldn't trust him at the helm of a large corporation.

Can't one of those video professionals you mentioned develop their own editing package? They seem to have a far better grasp of what it takes to be successful. Poor Steve simply hasn't a clue.

No one has said that Steve Jobs doesn't know how to run a hugely successful corporation. Video professionals are concerned that Final Cut Studio will be redeveloped for the prosumer market and that they will be an afterthought.
 
I believe Apple is all about MacRumors and not the other way around.

I mean, why Apple would need to research the market? they just need to take a look at this site and that is it.

No offense, but there a just too many people in this forum that THINK they can run a business and think they know about marketing and branding. If apple were to listen to the ramblings that go on in this forum, they would be out of business.
 
I used Premier Elements 2 for a mid-sized project years ago (before i could upgrade to Pro software) and I found it perfectly fine to use for the price. Granted, there were a few features, like sequence nesting, that would have come in handy but I made it work. :)

Premier Elements version 2 & 3 were great little programs. This screen shot doesn't do the program justice. People here shouldn't knock the program before actually using it. :cool:

Final Cut Pro is the one that needs a serious change. I have never liked it. :(
 
No offense, but there a just too many people in this forum that THINK they can run a business and think they know about marketing and branding. If apple were to listen to the ramblings that go on in this forum, they would be out of business.

Ouch............... From the mouth of babes (or newbies in this case), comes words of wisdom. :D
 
Adobe Road Show

I was at the Adobe Road Show yesterday to see the new CS5 Production Suite in NYC really put through it's paces.

I've been a Mac User since 7.6, Certified Desktop and Portable Technician starting in 2001, and have edited for almost 4 years now using Final Cut and the rest of the Studio.

I think I may be switching to a PC for my next film I'm working on. XDCAM works natively in Premier with no problems, full 64bit architecture in premiere that hums, can address the 24GB RAM I need well, Dynamic Link is awesome with After Effects, my RAID Controller is less than $300 with twice the performance and Windows 7 was pretty amazing.

Really, I see no reason to get a new Apple Machine for the new film other then Color.

I love Apple, but I have to face that they're abandoning their professional users with their super high margins, buggy 64 bit OS with their editing software, and now a 2nd rate editing software suite (minus Color). I have to make a good product, and Apple can't do it right now.

I'll keep the iPad and iPhone for now, but the rest is probably going soon. Anyone want a 17" Unibody Macbook Pro? Sending it in to apple for a tune-up and it's still under Applecare.
 
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Premiere Elements 3 was also easy to learn inside of a week.
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Apple needs to look at this, if they want to come up with a low cost prosumer software. iMovie stinks as it is now, and thanks to Adobe saying "everyone loves imovie and it is free with every apple" - Adobe went and copied iMovie for premiere elements (even the parts we hate), and then scrapped the mac versions for windows only.

Good God! That'a about as graphically ugly as is possible to design. I haven't seen such an ugly interface since Windows 3.1. Have they never heard about positive/negative space...everything can't be a headline...usability...proportions....color usage...legibility...etc. Everything is wrong. This was released?
 
Prosumers use it because it is a pro app, dumb it down and the "prosumers" will just go to Adobe. Making something less professional is the exact opposite of what prosumers want, they want to do exactly what the pros do and they know the software just as well as the pros do. The only thing that separates a pro and a prosumer is how they make their money, its stupid of Apple to assume prosumers are incapable of understanding the software..

You have describbed only a very small fraction of the prosummers. Most of them a "want-a-bes" These are the people who buy an SLR because it is a "profesional camera" and then leve it on "A" mode. The vast majority of this market has much more money than skill or knowledge.

Yes, there are many people like you describe but there are many more like I describe. What I'm afraid of is that Apple will see $$$ and try ad sell to the larger market.
 
You're welcome! Massive is great for crowd simulations it's probably the best tool out there for that, though Houdini 3D also has crowd simulation, along with particles like realflow. You might want to have a look at Houdini, Aprentice HD is only $100. It's essentially everything in the $8,000 Master edition except that you can't do 2k and 4k work and some network rendering.

PS. Have a look at my signature. Trying to get a grassroots movement going to get FreeBSD Jails into Mac OS X for added security and resource management.

Thx!

I can officially stop worrying about having to explain (make up an excuse) to my boss my decision for him to invest in Mac and FCS :D

I have to admit this has been the WORST few hours of my life!! :eek: still get the shudders when I think what happened to Shake :(

On a lighter note thank you soooo much BACKDRAFT for your shopping list in the original thread....Never heard of Massive, but looks amazing..... thxs
 
I can't believe people still just bash Windows software out of nowhere. It's as if they are completely ignorant of reality, or in some sort of dreamworld. Huh.

Apple also needs a new adjective besides "awesome."
 
I used Premier Elements 2 for a mid-sized project years ago (before i could upgrade to Pro software) and I found it perfectly fine to use for the price. Granted, there were a few features, like sequence nesting, that would have come in handy but I made it work. :)

Premier Elements version 2 & 3 were great little programs. This screen shot doesn't do the program justice. People here shouldn't knock the program before actually using it. :cool:

Final Cut Pro is the one that needs a serious change. I have never liked it. :(

Thank you. the UI may have looked a little cluttered, but with all the features and for under $100 - it was almost a pro usable app. :) even had some features that were not in the full adobe premiere. I used the software for a long time. And where? on a 2 year old core due laptop with only 2gb ram. The only slowness was rendering the video in WMV format for a presentation software that only used WMV (had to go through 2 passes). renedering to FLV or AVI was not that bad.

It was great software to use.

ok, time to learn FCE since I already own it, and it seems to be my only choice since pro apps are out of my price range.
 
I have to admit this has been the WORST few hours of my life!! :eek: still get the shudders when I think what happened to Shake :(

I HATE APPLE :mad:
I have been doing my compositing with shake for many years.
Since apple stopped supporting shake Everyone has switched to Nuke.

I miss the good old days when mostly pro users had Macs and Apple cared about them.
Seriously, look at Snow Leopard. I can`t even think of upgrading to it. Maya, shake, nuke... work like crap on Snow Leopard.


Why should apple care about FCP when it`s selling millions of ipods?
 
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