It won't be long now until this makes its way into Apple's portable units, too. You see it with the battery and you'll see it with the hard drive.
So... I've seen conflicting replies on this thread... does the iMac 2011 require "non standard" cabling for hard drive replacements or not?
I am rather confused
MagnusVonMagnum said:The assumptions in this thread are quite atrocious...
The obstinacy is equally atrocious, IMO. I've seen no definitive conclusions as of yet as to the cause of OWC's problem. Some have suggested that certain drive firmware is compatible with the new iMacs and others is not. I'd like to hear definitively what the problem is before drawing any long-term conclusions. However, to me, Apple's planned obsolescence is very real even if this particular problem is not. Nothing has changed in terms of their shortened shelf lives as of late (bearing the first Intel machines that were still being sold 3 years ago are already incompatible with Lion not to mention how short the shelf life is on iOS devices for OS upgrades). So the specifics may or may not be moot, but the premise for most of the angst in this thread is not, IMO.
There are people in here who have successfully replaced the hard drive with larger capacity drives as well as SSD's. Not sure why people continue to ignore the FACTS, that people have replaced the drives, and instead believe some article that was posted on the internet.
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For god sakes macrumors, you have threads on your very own forum falsifying this report from OWC. If you can't at least make mention of that stop posting BS journalism because you have people up in a riot right now over news that is inaccurate.
I'm not sure the problem isn't very real for certain brand drives either. Like I said, I want more information. If you cannot comprehend why people would read a front page article and not read 20+ pages first before responding then I think you need to rethink your reasons for responding. You can blame MacRumors for not updating the front page, but then this is called MacRumors not MacNews (or some other journalistic title). I think your own expectations are a bit high flung there. You sound more like you're afraid the Mac market is suddenly going to flush down the toilet and your stock is going to sink because of this article. Get over it.
Those who continue to say "this is terrible, now i can't upgrade my imac, i'm never buying apple again" How many of you would actually upgrade your hard drive in the first place? I'm assuming not many as the majority in this thread don't even realize you have to take the screen out of the iMac (regardless of 2011 or previous gen). I'm willing to bet not a lot of people are willing to do this and if they knew that from the beginning, they probably wouldn't even be complaining, never mind the fact that the entire story is fabricated by OWC.
I personally wouldn't own an iMac, but I have taken my 2008 MBP apart to change its hard drive (not exactly trivial, but not rocket science either).
As for accusing OWC of "fabricating" the story, I would watch myself if I were you. Companies are starting to sue a lot of libel on the Internet and that's a pretty major accusation without proof, IMO that could easily hurt a small business. Just because a couple of brand drives appear to have worked OK doesn't mean there isn't a problem for other brands or that Apple hasn't changed something on purpose to make life more difficult for DIY folk. As I've said, it's still too early, IMO to draw a definitive conclusion based on the limited data I've seen and if OWC is reporting accurately, then they are helping people be aware of a potential pitfall. It is the response that is resoundingly negative and that serves as a warning to Apple that if they continue to ignore their customers desires and just go on Steve's instinct/vision/desire, sooner or later it will bite them in the hind quarter.
You must be on Ballmer's payroll. It's not our fault if you're poor and can't afford a new Mac. Enjoy your crappy PC with clunky old Windows on it....
If you've replaced the HDD in a post-2008 iMac, how much of a pain was it to get that glass back on without catching 1,000 specks of dust under it?
Except now it sounds like it fails apple hardware tests and thus does not boot. IF it does, I don't get the fuss then.
Wrong.
AHT is a CD that is used by technicians to diagnose faults with your mac.
"AHT Fails" means it'll just say it can't read a temperature from your drive.
It'll boot fine.
That's some bull. Just an unnecessary Apple hurdle. Don't they realize this is the kind of thing that really pisses off with regards to their company?
Sometimes I appreciate the closed ecosystem/"walled garden" but I don't need to wear a helmet and straight-jacket in my private garden.
Nevertheless, that cable is not the source of your fan woes. (Once again, all you have to do is put a meter to it and see for yourself.) I bet if you use a S.M.A.R.T. utility to check the temperature reported by your replacement drive, it will be accurate. So why wont the fan slow down? Apple specced several different drives for the mid 2011 iMacs, and their normal operating temperature range is different. I betcha theres a table in SMC or EFI that maps temp to fan speed for the different HDDs. If the ID for your HDD isnt in that table, or no ID is reported, you get max fan by default.
Bad news. Very bad news. On the bright side it made my current situation a lot easier.
The plan was a new 2011 iMac, and then replace the original HDD with a vertex 3 SSD.
Now it seems like a refurbished Mac Pro - most probably the 2006 and then do the CPU upgrade - 3,0 Woodcrest or 2,33 Harpertown.
Just a shame they are so expensive in Denmark were i live - the 2010 Mac Pro basic equal 3.600 USD![]()
FWIW, I bet we will see a 7-pin to 4-pin converter in a month-or-two. Maybe even a temp sensor on the converter itself, making the increased fan RPMs a non-issue.
Well if you want to be a "power user" on a mac there is always the Mac Pro, which is built to be upgradable.
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