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that would be anyone using their system for professional work where one has promised to deliver on specific deadlines. data may be recoverable but that doesn't mean the system will be usable.

You mean you only have one bootable volume for critical work? Now that's taking a risk. Well anyway, we'll give you a shout when 10.7.6 is out and you can dip a toe in.
 
I am more anxious to see the new hardware. All of it, not just the Air! Apple does make more products than just the MacBook Air, iPad and iPhone. But you wouldn't know that to read most of the articles on Mac news sites for the past year or so. The software will get fixed with software updates that are very easy and simple from a user perspective, but if something isn't correct with hardware that can be a nightmare.
 
… Apple has the B2S promotion and education pricing going on. Any other meaningful differences?

The meaningful source of information will be Apple.

Can I expect full compatibility with a Xerox laser printer, canon scanner and such? …

Check at least the Xerox and Canon sites.

http://www.apple.com/uk/macosx/whats-new/features.html mentions no changes to printing or scanning.

In addition to the PPDs etc. provided by printer manufacturers and Apple, be aware of Gutenprint for Mac OS X.

… x86 32-bit systems are no longer supported …

Not true.

… nothing major over Snow Leopard …

There are huge improvements, but not everyone will realise them. Some of the improvements are thanks to some of the things discussed at WWDC 2011.
 
I'll be honest, I still don't understand how using a product extensively, evaluating it objectively, and then liking it makes someone a "fanboy".
 
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… x86 32-bit systems are no longer supported …

Not true.

That actually is true 32 bit processors are no longer supported. Not a huge deal since that's just the first gen "Core Duo" machines. It will still support 32 bit apps of course, but he was right about the systems.
 
Lion requires 2 GB of RAM now, up from 1. All of the current Macs with only 2 GB of RAM are overdue for an update. I wouldn't be surprised if they all went to 4 GB.

I have a MB with 2 GB RAM. It works totally fine on my computer. I tried putting pressure on it by opening dozens of apps, creating multiple desktops (spaces) and frequently using Mission Control, Launchpad and other graphics eye-candy. It never slowed down.

It of course requires more memory than SL, but after a reboot, the free memory is close to 1 GB. kernel_task takes up about 250 MB which is higher than SL.

And one more thing, Activity Monitor reports 2 GB total RAM for my computer with 256 MB shared VRAM. SL used to report 1.75 GB total RAM. I think the VRAM is included in "wired memory", which is about 500 MB after a reboot.
 
I'd love to get the new Mac mini server, Mac pro, MBA and two 27" display if wife won't kill me!
 
And there's the honest reinforcement of my original claim. I wonder what the non-almost everyones are experiencing. When the pro-hype people need hesitant words like "damn-near" and "almost" means the OS will be business as usual. If you are using the basic OS programs and few others, I have no doubt OSX 10.7 will be flawless. No doubt at all.

I'm a system administrator and using the GM on my mb air to support clients along with internal support. This includes heavy work installations on data centers etc. I am not using only the included apps, on the contrary I'm using a number of 3rd party products. All I can say is that the GM release feels as solid as a rock until now. As far as it concerns my kind of crash tests, Lion passes flawlessly.
 
Can I expect full compatibility with a Xerox laser printer, canon scanner and such? I am confident the software will run on the Mac nicely, just worry about being the early adopter and having driver type issues. Or is it really not a problem since it is still a "10 - decimal - insert sequence number here" - release?
I recommend installing on a second drive or partition and testing it out.. there definitely are potential driver problems.. I have a Canon Pixma ip4500 and it wont print under Lion. I have to network print to other machines. :/ Presumably Canon will fix this soon but who knows.

So its definitely possible. I bet we'll see a lot of people with borked printers once more people are using Lion.
 
looking forward to it!

but...


"the world's most advanced desktop operating system advances even further"???

horrible headline
 
I'll be honest, I still don't understand how using a product extensively, evaluating it objectively, and then liking it makes someone a "fanboy".

It doesn't. Making claims based on analysis that lacks objectivity or credibility does.
 
I won't install for several reasons immediately:
1) brand new product *will* still have some rough edges (in spite of "guarantees" by apple fans)
2) my MBP 2008 does not support multi gestures... i fear i'll lack some functionality
3) to my knowledge, there are quite few technical novelties in Lion... most novelties seem to be just eye candies or at best improvements at application level (changing skin of iCal e.g.)

To sum up : i am curious to see it but i'll wait grasshoppers to test it...
 
Don't put any money on your guarantee.

I've been using DP4 as my main OS since its release. That is, I wiped my MBPs drive and did a clean install of Lion DP4. Daily OS, with all my files, all the apps I use, everything. I'm treating it as a full release every day. This is how you really test stuff. It isn't futzing around with a vanilla copy on a separate drive. Instead, it's about forgetting that it's a preview and relying on it every day while taking your chances. Not everyone is able to do this, but for those that are, they'll learn damn quick whether this is something that's ready for release.

It's extremely stable and there are no showstopper bugs (and my hardware isn't exactly new, either.) This is the general consensus.

If the GM is anything like this (an improvement over DP4, apparently) Lion will be damn-near flawless upon release.

This will be an extremely hard act for the competition to follow.


Thank god you don't test software for a living. The way you really test software is by testing it against a comprehensive set of tasks. Seeing as this is an OS that set of tasks is huge an impractical. "Just using it" is not testing it. It's like saying "I drove this new car to the shops and to work so it will never explode and kill everyone". The only way to test a really large, general bit of software is to get a large number of people using it in unknown ways, that's why Beta programs are so popular.

Having said that, any sort of testing doesn't mean it doesn't have bugs. The more people use it the more bugs will come out, that's why it's wise to wait.

Also, general consensus amongst who? The narrow group of people who have used it, LOL.

Nice that you've taken one sentence from my post, ignored the rest, and replied out-of-context with what is more or less gibberish.

File under "typical fanboy behaviour".
 
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It will be awesome to see the new hardware.
It will be awesome to see the new OSX crashing and burning like all recent Apple OSXs have done in their first months of release. I can almost guarantee that OSX 10.7 is about as ready to release as a fornicator thinking about Dr. Ruth.

What are you talking about?

I've had every version of X on launch day and have yet to have an issue.

There will always be some people who experience issues.

That is not "crashing and burning", it's the nature of new software finally being released into the wild.
 
Don't put any money on your guarantee.

I've been using DP4 as my main OS since its release. That is, I wiped my MBPs drive and did a clean install of Lion DP4. Daily OS, with all my files, all the apps I use, everything. I'm treating it as a full release every day. This is how you really test stuff. It isn't futzing around with a vanilla copy on a separate drive. Instead, it's about forgetting that it's a preview and relying on it every day while taking your chances. Not everyone is able to do this, but for those that are, they'll learn damn quick whether this is something that's ready for release.

It's extremely stable and there are no showstopper bugs (and my hardware isn't exactly new, either.) This is the general consensus.

If the GM is anything like this (an improvement over DP4, apparently) Lion will be damn-near flawless upon release.

This will be an extremely hard act for the competition to follow.

That is NOT how you test OS that is treated as an upgrade. By your logic, windows is an awesome platform if everyone started with a format and clean install of the OS. And you cannot make a completely bogus claim that is extremely stable and has no showstopper bugs when you have tested on just "your" hardware.

I gurantee you that in the first week after release there will be lots of posts of bugs withe the OS once it goes out to the masses and hundreds of various combinations of hardware/software see first use against it. This is standard for new hardware, and has happened with every release of OS X, deal with it, especially when you have a such a closed group user testing it.

Want to know the right way to do user testing before launching a new OS, Windows 7, unleash it to the masses for 12 months, and by the time you hit go live, very little suprises.

Flaweless upon release.... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!! . No company in the world has been able to achieve to to date, as in developtment you make a call when it is ready to ship, and that is a compromise between stabablity and bugs. Apple has never done it!

One thing I can gurantee you, you have never worked with software development.
 
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