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Apple Retail Stores Receive Golden Master Copies of OS X Lion
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I disagree with some of your spelling choices here and there where your diphthongs aren't consistent, but overall I agree. It would be a much better system if we undertook something like this. English spelling bugs me.
But it would probably make even more sense if we just switched to IPA.
Hmm, the problem with that, though, would be accounting for the various dialects and accents consistently...
I think you're over thinking. Why don't you just bring your parents machine to your network, log in with your itues account on their machine and insatall. You only need the iTunes log on to download. BTW... You're not ripping off Apple. Every release to date of the OS has not been copy protected. They are not MS and don't rely on OSX to make tons of money to keep the company alive, Apple makes their money with the hardware.
Ok, I am probably going to get banned fro this comment but screw it...
Are you an idiot? Seriously? You are only complaining to complain. Who cares how Apple decides to distribute Lion to their stores. Have you ever worked in an electronic retail? Have you ever been an IT who has to update all the computers on a network? In fact the way you sound, you would probably pirate Lion, and I would guess have probably pirated other software before. Guess what they are all sent digitally to you. It doesn't matter how apple sends GBs of information. It's digital or through an HDD. Guess what you can download Lion as well and use a DVD or HDD to install on your computer. This has nothing to do with does Apple trust their network. It all comes down to they want it to be as smooth as possible to download Lion the day it is available. By allowing the apple store to have physical media with Lion ready allows people who come to the Apple Store to upgrade and not use bandwidth that otherwise is in use by the app store. All Apple is doing is making sure that when you purchase Lion through the App Store it is as seamless as possible. Yeah that's a reason to debate about not trusting their own system... Ultimately they are only helping you, as a customer, out; even if you complain about nothing at all!
Are you an idiot? Seriously? You are only complaining to complain. Who cares how Apple decides to distribute Lion to their stores. Have you ever worked in an electronic retail? Have you ever been an IT who has to update all the computers on a network? In fact the way you sound, you would probably pirate Lion, and I would guess have probably pirated other software before. Guess what they are all sent digitally to you. It doesn't matter how apple sends GBs of information. It's digital or through an HDD. Guess what you can download Lion as well and use a DVD or HDD to install on your computer. This has nothing to do with does Apple trust their network. It all comes down to they want it to be as smooth as possible to download Lion the day it is available. By allowing the apple store to have physical media with Lion ready allows people who come to the Apple Store to upgrade and not use bandwidth that otherwise is in use by the app store. All Apple is doing is making sure that when you purchase Lion through the App Store it is as seamless as possible. Yeah that's a reason to debate about not trusting their own system... Ultimately they are only helping you, as a customer, out; even if you complain about nothing at all!
An Idea Whose Time Has Not Arrived
I'm gonna get flamed or negative rated, or both for this, but Lion is not ready for primetime.
I've been running it for months. The GM is the first revision that came close to feeling like it was fully baked. But even it has some pretty big holes in it, especially around wifi networking.
Don't get me wrong. The features in Lion are fantastic, and once these bugs get worked out it will be a lot of fun. But, knowing what I know now, given the choice I would stick with SL for the first couple of dot releases.
Scoff, flame or ignore at your own peril. You have been warned.
I'm gonna get flamed or negative rated, or both for this, but Lion is not ready for primetime.
I've been running it for months. The GM is the first revision that came close to feeling like it was fully baked. But even it has some pretty big holes in it, especially around wifi networking.
Don't get me wrong. The features in Lion are fantastic, and once these bugs get worked out it will be a lot of fun. But, knowing what I know now, given the choice I would stick with SL for the first couple of dot releases.
Scoff, flame or ignore at your own peril. You have been warned.
Yeah, but it's still not legit... I think it would be ripping Apple off to not go by their licensing and not be paying for two copies of Lion that should be paid for. I'm sure they wouldn't notice, but that doesn't make it right. Otherwise the licensing wouldn't be 'all macs you own' it'd be '...plus any machines of friends and family you have access to'!!
It would be nice if licenses only applied when we feel like it's convenient, but that isn't the case.
I don't want to rip Apple off, yet as you indicate, they are encouraging me (and others in similar situations) to do so by their distribution policy for Lion.
Absolutely, when I first installed SL 10.6.0 on my previous 2008 20" iMac, the WiFi totally died and wouldn't renew connection, though it had been running perfectly on Leopard and still does today on my GF's Leopard MacBook.
According to many others, it is ready for prime time. I'm not saying your experiences are wrong or chastising you or anything but for any major OS release, many problems simply can't be picked up in house and it requires the OS to be released to the public under many different hardware configurations and such in order for a majority of the problems to surface and be fixed.
I'm an early adopter and expect bugs, as soon as I find if the programs I need work on it I'm upgrading
Yeah, but it's still not legit... I think it would be ripping Apple off to not go by their licensing and not be paying for two copies of Lion that should be paid for. I'm sure they wouldn't notice, but that doesn't make it right. Otherwise the licensing wouldn't be 'all macs you own' it'd be '...plus any machines of friends and family you have access to'!!
It would be nice if licenses only applied when we feel like it's convenient, but that isn't the case.
Why don't you pay for it on your parents computer as well as on yours but then just copy the installer from your computer instead of downloading it again? You pay legitimately and save yourself some bandwidth.
Yeah, but it's still not legit... I think it would be ripping Apple off to not go by their licensing and not be paying for two copies of Lion that should be paid for. I'm sure they wouldn't notice, but that doesn't make it right. Otherwise the licensing wouldn't be 'all macs you own' it'd be '...plus any machines of friends and family you have access to'!!
It would be nice if licenses only applied when we feel like it's convenient, but that isn't the case.
I hope you sleep at night.
I guess they should implement some BitTorrent-like transfer for same local network: so only one copy is downloaded and the other can go through the LAN....
Just copy the installer onto a USB key and take it over to your other machine.
Because it has been GM for so freaking long. I am sure Apple has some of the major fixes in the works so it is ready shortly after it released to the public.
So Apple should redo it's entire distribution network because you haven't entered the 21st century when it comes to internet?
According to many others, it is ready for prime time. I'm not saying your experiences are wrong or chastising you or anything but for any major OS release, many problems simply can't be picked up in house and it requires the OS to be released to the public under many different hardware configurations and such in order for a majority of the problems to surface and be fixed.
I'm an early adopter and expect bugs, as soon as I find if the programs I need work on it I'm upgrading
You're right: getting Lion into the hands of many users with different configurations will uncover bugs that haven't been discovered yet. The question for current Mac owners is whether we want to pay $30 to join in the public beta or wait for a few iterations. But people who buy a new Mac after the release date may not have that option. It may be possible to downgrade to SL on newly-purchased Macs that were already shipping before Lion, but what about the Airs and other models that are announced along with Lion or soon thereafter?
Absolutely nothing. Just like your blasphemy. Also not relevant to the discussion.
Not sure where you live, but I'm going to assume its in the USA because thats the kind thinking I would expect.
For 65% of the world, Data is capped. And the sad thing is most ISP's are looking at this as a possibility for the US market.
With Netflix Hulu and Torrents, I think the 21st century isn't going to be exactly what you think it is.
Yeah, but it's still not legit... I think it would be ripping Apple off to not go by their licensing and not be paying for two copies of Lion that should be paid for. I'm sure they wouldn't notice, but that doesn't make it right. Otherwise the licensing wouldn't be 'all macs you own' it'd be '...plus any machines of friends and family you have access to'!!
It would be nice if licenses only applied when we feel like it's convenient, but that isn't the case.
I know what you're saying. I'm not a fan of stealing anything digital. I work in the industry. But, I really don't think Apple cares all that much. I really believe they do it this way so that it does encourage copying. I see it as one of the benefits of paying the premium we do for our Macs. Besides all the other benefits.
BTW... good on you for being honest.
Why don't you pay for it on your parents computer as well as on yours but then just copy the installer from your computer instead of downloading it again? You pay legitimately and save yourself some bandwidth.
Yeah, that might be what I eventually do, assuming Apple don't imbed user IDs in the installer or something. It would be them paying for theirs though
Still all seems a very flaky way of doing it to me.
Sorry, I have no idea if you're being sarcastic/funny or if you mean something else by that...?
Again, that's fine for my other machine(s) but not necessarily for other machines I'm upgrading which are not mine. But nick123222's suggestion above will hopefully be the answer.