Are you talking about them having a really cheap option with a cap? Because I googled and from the first 6 I checked 4 or so had an unlimited package.
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Apple Retail Stores Receive Golden Master Copies of OS X Lion
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Are you talking about them having a really cheap option with a cap? Because I googled and from the first 6 I checked 4 or so had an unlimited package.
would like to see if there is a difference between GM and Retail or if they will upgrade the GM just incase they have fixed a few of the GM bugs 
Anybody who has the money MIGHT buy a product. There's a growing middle class, and many rich people in the countries listed above... just about 100% of them use M$ Windows.
Your logic in assuming they are all poor people living in tents is heavily flawed... India in particular has a very large technology market, but pretty well nobody's using Macs over there (I go there for business regularly.) China has the world's second largest economy... again, nobody uses Macs there.
Yeah... there's a reason why Apple's still pretty small. 80% Of its business is still done in the USA... in terms of potential customers, there's some big, cashed up markets out there that Apple hasn't even tried to make a dint in yet.
would like to see if there is a difference between GM and Retail or if they will upgrade the GM just incase they have fixed a few of the GM bugs
A significant advantage offered by digital distribution...
Will 10.7.1 be the first public build?
And if Apple sells 200,000 copies of Lion the first day, that's 800TB on the network. That's the puzzle - how can the network be good enough for Apple's customers, but not for Apple itself?
The 300GB size, if true, would mean that Apple is being very old-fashioned with their store kits. The 300GB came from assuming a 50GB install, and 6 different copies of it for different machines. It would be dumb to multiply by 6 - instead ship an SIS (single instance store) backup image so that no files are duplicated in the network/FedEx image. An SIS backup image would probably weigh in around 20 GB or less with compression - less than 2 hours on a T3.
Also, this post suggests that an Apple store has a much faster than T3 link.
Not sure where this comment is directed.
Someone has to create the HDs, and if there are problems re-create them. Using the network would be more flexible.
Again, flexibility. If there's a problem, or the 10.7.1 patch, they need to build new disks, clone them, ship them. Faster and simpler to put the SIS backup image on the network.
I have a 20mb connection here in Nova Scotia for $62.95 per month with no cap through Eastlink. Their 40mb and 100mb connections have caps of 250gb per month.
I don't think you're quite understanding what we're talking here. I'll leave it at that.
I live in Vancouver and only pay 40 per month for 25mb down and 2.5mb up. There is a 100GB cap per month but I always go over it by a lot and I am never charged more and no one sends me an email or calls to say use less or upgrade. I have been doing this since I joined this ISP in summer 2008. It doesn't slow down or stop working when I go over at all. I have heard in Australia that some stop working and you have to buy more bandwidth.
Some months I have used 400GB+ and all was well. I even called and asked them once and they explained the "cap" is actually a guideline for choosing the right plan. ie. if you use this much per month get this plan etc. They told me they don't even really monitor usage because they have so much overall bandwidth that their services are never held back. They also offer 100mbit to consumers so that shows the type of bandwidth they have overall.
Sorry but your experience doesn't do a blanket sweep for all of Canada.
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You seem to be asking a question and answering it in your own posts, so what exactly is your point?
Are you upset that Apple is "forcing" the general public to download an installer or are you still trying to deflect the people from the excitement that Lion is about to be released?
Of course, but the median wage is not high enough to make most people in these countries potential buyers of Macs. Same goes for China, although many people in the cities get it much better there are still large amounts of people who live out in the countryside where the story is completely difference.
In the future there is no doubt they will be the consumers that buy the most, but they are not there yet.
As someone already pointed out, for Q2 59% of the total revenue came from international sales.
On a completely different note. I hope that Apple have got their servers ready for this. If they are gonna distribute it digitally I expect to be able to max my connection.
and this is the problem with them
I am on talktalk unlimited plan
but it has a fair use policy of 30gb (or is it 40) per month
so it is not really unlmited
what if apple is actually ALSO shipping disks to the stores for sale/distribution to customers if they needed them instead of a download?
I'll wait a few versions 'till OS 7's expected bugs are (hopefully)ironed out before diving in.
I don't need the extra aggravation.
I don't need the extra aggravation.
Slovenia...100mb down, 10mb up...27 (approx. $38 USD). No cap
Right... but you have to live in Slovenia?
Not entirely disagreeing but you're wrong and it kind of kills your credibility when you pull statements from nowhere. 59% of Apple's revenue came from international markets last quarter.
As to India, it is dominated by phone usage more than computers and Apple really doesn't have a phone in their market yet. China is a growth market for Apple.
They certainly have work to do internationally but they aren't quite as US exclusive as you make out.
I just called talktalk, they said "we do not have a fixed amount in regards to a fair use policy but more for those who constantly abuse their service" and refered me to the following:
With TalkTalk Plus, theres no fixed limit on the amount you can download every month. That means you can download as much as you want without worrying about any extra charges.
TalkTalk Plus customers also have no restrictions on time-critical web traffic such as surfing, gaming, streaming content from applications like BBC iPlayer or using VOIP packages like Skype.
We do have a fair usage policy, which is designed to ensure your service is fast and reliable 24 hours a day. This only involves managing non-time critical traffic on our network, such as Bittorrent or Peer-to-Peer file sharing These services often involve huge files being uploaded and downloaded, which can cause network problems.
TalkTalk Plus customers have no restrictions on torrent or file sharing activity between midnight and 3pm. At peak times, TalkTalk Plus customers can still use those services but they may find Bittorrent or file sharing is a little slower.
My guess is that this is just a back-up plan by Apple and not much else.
If for some reason something goes wrong with the network and Apple stores can't download Lion for their store machines for this very important day, you'd be the first one jumping up and down laughing at Apple's stupidity for not having a back up plan.
Aren't you making a mountain out of a mole hill. Its not hypocrisy - just common sense.