Im planning to get OS X Lion on launch date, but i bought my macbook in the timeframe after the keynote, where i receive a free copy of lion. How is it best that i receive my free lion copy on the launchdate ?
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But then we couldn't accidentally slip across some pre-determined tier and pay penalties. Furthermore, all those people who need more than X but less than Y wouldn't have to pay up for the Y plan for extra capacity they won't use because it's cheaper than paying for X + overage penalties. Etc. Why would we ever want to take money out of the duopoly's pockets?
More seriously, the ONLY solution to this ever-worsening problem is to hit them where it hurts. If the crowd would stop paying for whatever plans they roll out, we'll get better options. While demand just keeps growing and growing, they are basically getting rewarded again and again for such practices. If you put yourself in their shoes, you're riding ever-increasing sales & profits, making ever-increasing bonuses and salary increases, shareholders love the results, etc... so "Let's change things to undercut all that." Why? "Because our customers will be happier if we take less money from them" (at our own expense). Later that day: the customer-centered (Jerry Maguire) executive is putting his personal belongings in a box while a HR representative stands by to escort him out.
We'll never get what we want while the crowd keeps showing a willingness to pay whatever they ask in whatever plans they roll out or amend. All that they do to rip us off is right until we as a group decide to stop rewarding their actions with our cash.
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You and I read his post two completely different ways. I think you may want to read the comment he was replying to.
Oh, 10EUR more a month for unlimited data usage if you want it. Otherwise, once you go over your limit, they cut you down to 56kB/s and it'll set you back 5EUR for 20GB.... yeah, I know. I think there's also a 5 EUR subscription to make that 100GB limit balloon to 200GB
That... sucks.In Finland I get 10/1Mbps ADSL for 23e/month without limits. 20/1Mbps would be 30e/month, but that doesn't make much difference. 3G costs between 5 and 15 euros (0,5Mbps to 15Mbps down, slow up), but its so unreliable and inconsistent that it really isn't an option for heavy use. 200/10Mbps cable is available in some areas for 55e/month.
Since your wife mac is hers. And your mac is for you. Why don't you just pay for your copy of Lion and your wife pay for her copy!
Then her OS is hers and not yours. Not following your "logic" here.
Because with the SL Family Pack the only requirement was to have the computers in the same household. So you could buy that one copy and use it on many machines, even if you weren't the owner of said machine. It just had to reside in your household.
Now you have to share an iTunes account (technically). Which you didn't have to before.
Yep, let's start with iSight camera not picking up the latest flash version... *sigh*
Maybe you should read the Terms and Agreements. That would be STEALING. You can put it on your machines, not machines that other people own. Just because it is easy to do, does not make it ok.
Not if their machines are on his authorized machines list for the app store. I agree it's stretching things a bit, but I don't think it would be theft.
Mac App Store purchases are valid for three different computers. Hence, downloading once from the MAS and simply transferring the downloaded image to another two computers seems like an easy way to do it.
According to Apple's website, they still need to be authorised on the App Store.
Under the Electronic Distribution section
http://www.apple.com/macosx/whats-new/features.html
Ah yes, so Apple has tightened up the definition of a "household" from the explicit:
The Family Pack Software License Agreement allows you to install and use one copy of the Apple software on up to a maximum of five (5) Apple-labeled computers at a time as long as those computers are located in the same household and used by persons who occupy that household. By household we mean a person or persons who share the same housing unit such as a home, apartment, mobile home, or condominium, including students who are primary residents of that household but reside at a separate on-campus location. This license does not extend to business or commercial users.
to the implicit "Person or persons who trust each other enough to share an iTunes account and/or credit card." So good news, bad news...the price of a "Family Pack" is now $29.99 instead of $49.99, but the definition of "Family" is now stricter and actually regulated by the 5-machine limit.
We share the same Internet connection, so yes, we have to download it twice over the same link. And yes, she pays for gas for her car, I pay for gas for my car and motorbike. Is that a strange concept ?
Except the old "Family Pack" license allowed us both to share the same OS X license, even with our current living arrangements. Now the new "MAS" doesn't. No if, and, or, buts about it.
Piracy. The rest of your post is you failing to grasp that in my situation, it is what it is and it is how Apple decided : we get to pay twice and use twice the bandwidth.
At least not everyone in here is so new that they don't remember the present day situation with OS X (yes, Snow Leopard is the current version and the Family Pack is part of the current licensing scheme... how could you guys miss that simple fact ?)
Lack of options breeds insatisfaction. What a bizarre concept to some it seems. If Apple offered a wider breadth of options, more people's situations would be covered and the transition would be smoother for all. But Apple is anti-option and it seems a lot of the "Hey, it works for me!" crowd is also anti-option as long as their own situation is covered. Egotistical if you ask me.
That is not a documented way by Apple and thus is not an approved way. There are plenty of unapproved workarounds, many of which also include the option of not paying what Apple is asking.
That doesn't make them ok morally or legally. Apple is the copyright owner, they have an exclusivity on deciding how Lion will be distributed. They decided that the MAS is the way and that you pay and then download for each computer using a different iTunes account.
wtf paranoid much? just sign in download and install, sign out again and every trace of your holy cc is gone. u r probably the only person on earth to get to heaven then. nothing is illegal about sharing it, there's even a line about it on the support page. i do that all the time with my sister and her ipod so we dont have to buy the same apps twice. how redic would that be.
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Ya I give it a few weeks before the first fix comes out.
I really wish companies would release products when they are done and not just sending them out as is in order to meet some arbitrary deadline...
You live how you want to live with your GF and I will live how I want to live with mine. Please take your relationship counseling elsewhere. We have arrangements where we share certain pre-determined costs and don't others. I will not rearrange my entire life style around an OS purchase because Apple changed their rules.
Also, questioning someone else's lifestyle choice is very poor. Who do you think you are to question how we have decided to live our lives ?
Again guys : This is how it is. No matter how much it makes you unhappy and frustrated that Apple's chosen distribution doesn't work for me won't change anything. If you don't want me replying to you explaining to you over and over again how their distribution model is broken in my case, then just don't try to offer "workarounds" which are simply piracy. I know all the options. Heck, I'll probably end up using one of the less legitimate workarounds. But in the end, it doesn't change the fact that in my situation, Apple's model is now broken whereas it worked perfectly before.
It takes 2 to argue. I was simply pointing out that fact once. People who don't like me repeating myself don't have to reply to me in the first place when they know full well that what I say is a fact.
I really don't think it's "piracy" if she logs in her account and pays for it, but you install of a previously downloaded copy. No different than if you both bought the disc and used yours to install on both machines. You go to great lengths to describe that you are two separate users with two separate computers and two separate iTunes accounts and CC's, yet don't understand why you then must buy two separate Lions like any other two individual users. I trust it's the double bandwidth you're upset with and not the double $29.99 purchase.
I do see how the modifications to the terms affects your current situation, but instead of bemoaning the tightening of the conditions, I really have to look back at prior releases and be thankful/amazed at how loose Apple was with previous releases. I've always bought the OS and iLife Family Packs for my family's multiple computers at a higher price knowing full well I could have just bought the single user and installed 5 times. Surely there are plenty of others who did not, especially back in the $129 days.
It doesn't really surprise me at all that Apple has decided to regulate this a little closer, and essentially limit the installations to individuals who legitimately own and use multiple computers of their own.
It doesn't matter what you think. It's Apple who owns the copyright. Provide a link to official support document that describes how 2 computers not sharing an iTunes account can share the same installer and then you'll have a point.
Until then, it is piracy, no matter how much your moral compass says it isn't for you.
Both our Macs are legitimately owned. I don't know where you're going with this. The Family Pack was household based licensing, the MAS is individual based licensing. We paid more for the priviledge of sharing an install media and license. Now we can't.