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I'm exciting for this iPad Pro...however, I think I would miss the headphone jack...on the iPhone, I have never looked back and have used Bluetooth since iPhone 5 (I miss my 5, but I digress).
 
I would have been dissapointed if they didn’t remove the headphone jack. It’s time to move on and go wireless.

The real news here is Face ID not working in horizontal mode. It’s really bad on the iPhone X when you have to rotate it to authenticate but it’s not acceptable on the iPad that is used extensively in landscape mode.

I don’t see why this can’t just be fixed in a software update.

Keep in mind that none of this is news, it's rumors, and this guy is usually wrong.
 
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The 12.9 iPad should have always been designed so that it's default orientation is landscape.

Mercifully removing the home button and hopefully not having a notch will solve this aesthetic bugbear of mine.

I know it's entirely psychological, but if they just rotated the Apple logo 90 degrees, it would be perfect.

I don't think I've ever used it in Portrait mode.
 
Lol, You people are already praying for Apple to fail so you can win.

No people just want Apple to not remove features they use.

He asked for one option.

No one is forcing you to keep buying apple products.

So I'm not allowed to be an Apple customer who is dissatisfied with Apple's direction, but would like to be able to continue to use their products?

I take it that there actually are no benefits to AirPods beyond not having wires, as you refuse to provide any.
 
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During his short lifespan, Steve seen a lot of that, made a lot of that, if Steve were alive, he would remove the headphone jack the moment A2DP came out (much earlier).

A2DP came out LONG before Steve died. In fact, A2DP was out before the first iPhone.
 
No way in h3ll do I believe they are moving the connector and allowing only vertical FaceID. Perhaps they may add a second bottom smart connector, but the horizontal for keywords is a key feature.
 
The headphone jack contains some i/o the iPad really can't afford to lose, especially not the Pro. Now, if they were to put a USB-C port on there that could do simultaneous video/audio/whatever instead of Lightning, that would be a fair tradeoff. As it is, only leaving 1 Lightning port removes a lot of functionality. Either give us 2 Lightning ports on the Pro or swallow the switch to USB-C and put the Pro in line with the 12" MacBook in terms of connectivity.

The smart connector "only in portrait" sounds like the stupidest thing I can think of and I won't believe that until I see it. Landscape mode on the pro for multitasking is a key feature and it's nowhere near as usable in portrait. I also have a hard time believing FaceID can't work rotated 90 degrees, i guess even if you have to have your face off center while it's unlocking ;)

That’s a good idea. They could put 2 USB-C ports and remove the headphone jack if they want
 



Apple's upcoming iPad Pro models will feature slightly smaller bodies, a relocated Smart Connector, and no headphone jack, according to information shared by Japanese site Mac Otakara.

Citing supply chain sources, Mac Otakara says the new 10.5-inch iPad Pro will measure in at 247.5mm tall, 178.7mm wide, and 6mm, compared to the current size of 250.6mm x 174.1mm x 6.1mm. The 12.9-inch iPad Pro is said to measure 280mm tall, 215mm wide, and 6.4mm thick, compared to the current measurements of 305.7mm x 220.6mm x 6.9mm.

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iPad Pro concept image via Álvaro Pabesio

These dimensions line up with rumors suggesting Apple plans to introduce a full redesign with the 2018 iPad Pro models, slimming down the bezels much like it did with the iPhone X. Though smaller in size, the new iPads will feature larger displays thanks to the bezel reduction. The new iPad Pros are not expected to feature a Home button, and according to previous rumors, will include a TrueDepth camera system for Face ID.

Mac Otakara also suggests that the 2018 iPad Pro models will not feature a 3.5mm headphone jack, with Apple opting to eliminate it.

iPhones have not had a headphone jack since it was removed in the iPhone 7, and Apple has instead relied on Bluetooth devices like the AirPods along with Lightning-based headphones. Apple is not expected to ship the new iPad Pro models with a Lightning to 3.5mm adapter, which would be in line with analyst predictions suggesting that adapter will not come with the 2018 iPhones either.

In the iPhone lineup, the headphone jack was removed for improved water resistance and to make space for internal components like a bigger battery, the Taptic Engine, and the rear camera system. It is not clear if Apple is facing the same space constraints in the iPad Pro with the introduction of the TrueDepth camera system or if this is a move to align iPad and iPhone features.

A portion of Mac Otakara's report says that Apple will use a "diamond cut" for both the front and the back of the new iPad Pro models, which seems to mean that the tablets could have a design that's similar the iPhone SE with beveled edges.

The Smart Connector on the iPads has reportedly been relocated from the side to the bottom near the Lightning port, which may require a new vertically oriented Smart Keyboard. It's not clear how a vertical Smart Keyboard would work, as it would likely be unstable in that orientation, especially for the larger iPad Pro.

Apple is said to be making this change because Face ID will work only when the iPad Pro is in a vertical orientation, with Mac Otakara saying that it is "impossible to release the lock with the main unit turned sideways." Previous information from Mac Otakara suggested Apple was working on horizontal Face ID for the iPad Pro, and hints of such a feature were discovered in iOS 12.

In addition to these changes to the iPad Pro, Mac Otakara also shared a bit of information on the rumored 6.1-inch low-cost iPhone. Confirming previous rumors, the site says the device will use a "Full Active" LCD display sourced from Japan Display. Full Active panels allow Apple to slim down the bezels of the LCD iPhone, bringing it in line with the two OLED devices.

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Possible front glass panels for the 2018 iPhones, with 6.1-inch model in middle
Mac Otakara's sources have also echoed previous reports pointing towards production difficulties for the 6.1-inch iPhone. When production on the phone started this month, Apple was reportedly seeing a 1 percent completion rate, suggesting a delayed November launch for the device.

Morgan Stanley analyst Katy Huberty made a similar prediction earlier this week, suggesting issues with "LED backlight leakage" could lead to a one month delay in production. Huberty's information indicated the delay had originally been six weeks, so it's possible Mac Otakara is working with older data. Other sources, such as Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, are not expecting launch delays, so it's unclear what's going on with the 6.1-inch iPhone at this time.

Mac Otakara has a somewhat mixed track record when it comes to rumors, sometimes sharing information that's spot on and sometimes missing the mark. For that reason, though this information is quite specific, these new details should be viewed with some skepticism until confirmed by secondary sources.

Article Link: Apple Said to Be Removing Headphone Jack From Upcoming 2018 iPad Pro Models
 
No headphone jack? This foolishness is why I went back to android. Tim cook is doing too.much. In other words if you're editing video and/or make beats you're just screwed? Guess I'll be holding onto my iPad pro 12.9 for a while

I have to agree with you there.

I bought an S9 earlier this year and was thoroughly impressed by the hardware, but the bloatware turned me off.

I just recently bought a Nokia 6.1 and my Stockholm-like Syndrome for the iPhone is starting to wear off. However, I'll work with both for a year or so to see if I can permanently cut the cord.

I was planning on buying a new iPad, especially a possibly updated mini, but if they get rid of the headphone jack, I'll be buying my first Amazon Kindle as a replacement for media consumption.
 
No people just want Apple to not remove features they use.



So I'm not allowed to be an Apple customer who is dissatisfied with Apple's direction, but would like to be able to continue to use their products?

I take it that there actually are no benefits to AirPods beyond not having wires, as you refuse to provide any.

I'll provide a couple benefits. Removing the wires resulted in AirPods being lighter in your ears, so they stay put in more people's ears than EarPods. AirPods also have capacitive functions like touching for functions and removing from one ear to stop playback. If you choose to only play sound with one AirPod, the full stereo signal is automatically sent to that side, so you aren't just hearing one channel.
 
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Good I don’t know anyone that misses that,
And anyone that does user that adapter works perfect and get a little more length from that cord that is dangleing every where, corded headphones going bye bye. Corded headphones just sounds outdated.
 
I'm a bit surprised that if these rumors are true, that they are doing such a significant redesign after last year's introduction of the 10.5. I would have thought that they'd hold off on a bezel reduced design until OLED panels were being introduced. I'm a bit bummed because I'm a sucker for a new form factor and I dont know if I'll be able to hold myself back from buying one even though my 10.5 with Brydge keyboard is seemingly the perfect on the go companion for me. self control self control self control.
 
I have to agree with you there.

I bought an S9 earlier this year and was thoroughly impressed by the hardware, but the bloatware turned me off.

I just recently bought a Nokia 6.1 and my Stockholm-like Syndrome for the iPhone is starting to wear off. However, I'll work with both for a year or so to see if I can permanently cut the cord.

I was planning on buying a new iPad, especially a possibly updated mini, but if they get rid of the headphone jack, I'll be buying my first Amazon Kindle as a replacement for media consumption.

Ok, so I don't know if you've really looked into the Kindles but you're talking about going from a premium pro device with an insane screen and more powerful than a lot of laptops...to a device that is pretty much something you'd find in the kid's aisle at a Walmart.
 
This would be a terrible decision on Apple’s part.
Not really, corded headphones are silly,
If u need to use that adapter works fine,
Corded headphones just sounds outdated. Who wants a cord, trying to untangle those take too much time.
Bye bye corded earphones
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Stupid is as stupid does.
Yes Apple very stupid, unlike you, I bet u are wicked smart
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I have to agree with you there.

I bought an S9 earlier this year and was thoroughly impressed by the hardware, but the bloatware turned me off.

I just recently bought a Nokia 6.1 and my Stockholm-like Syndrome for the iPhone is starting to wear off. However, I'll work with both for a year or so to see if I can permanently cut the cord.

I was planning on buying a new iPad, especially a possibly updated mini, but if they get rid of the headphone jack, I'll be buying my first Amazon Kindle as a replacement for media consumption.
Stay at android
 
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One possibility might be the feature being added in a subsequent software update, implying it may not be available on launch. It’s not exactly the first time Apple has shipped products with missing features, but none that were so mission critical. It would be like the 5s shipping with Touch ID disabled, with Apple promising to enable it in a future update.

Guess we will just have to wait and see.
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The headphone jack was removed from the iPhone X to allow for the OLED screen to bend, enabling the bezelless display. Apple might deem it acceptable collateral damage in exchange for being able to do the same to the iPad.

Bt overall, I still find this rumour fishy.
That’s not true they removed it on the iphone 7 first
 
I have to agree with you there.

I bought an S9 earlier this year and was thoroughly impressed by the hardware, but the bloatware turned me off.

I just recently bought a Nokia 6.1 and my Stockholm-like Syndrome for the iPhone is starting to wear off. However, I'll work with both for a year or so to see if I can permanently cut the cord.

I was planning on buying a new iPad, especially a possibly updated mini, but if they get rid of the headphone jack, I'll be buying my first Amazon Kindle as a replacement for media consumption.

I had an S8, great phone, good design, nice display. But android is crap, also the updates are months and months behind the Pixel.

Sold it and got the iPhone SE :)
 
Bummed to see my favorite Apple device get this treatment. I'm fine with bezels and home buttons, don't want face ID.

Less weight would be great but not for the sacrifices. So glad I invested in a 512 model when I did.

Looking less and less like Apple devices will be attractive options.. maybe a Mini if they nail it.
 
If that rumour is true, I'm holding on to all of my pre-2017 Apple equipment (with the exception of the company-provided MacBook "Pro") and if Apple continues down this road I'm offloading them in a couple of years for whatever the competition is offering. This just doesn't work for me.

My loyalty to Apple is gone, habit and ecosystem lock-in are soon to follow. I've found the value of an Apple product becomes really evident when you own all the other Apple products and have them work as well as can be expected together. Well, they don't, not anymore, not without a slew of dongles. Whenever I plug in my 2017 iPad or iPhone to my 2017 MBP with a USBC to Lightning connector it asks me to "disconnect USB accessories that drain too much power". Seriously now.

Just as the halo effect has nabbed new customers in the past, then the reverse is going to be true as well. People won't just leave one device -they will start questioning their entire ecosystem, one device at a time. Pro users already do that due to Apple's hideous treatment to the Mac. And probably pretty quickly they'll end up with few to no Apple devices at all.

Thanks for nothing, Tim.

Maybe you should make an appointment at the Genius Bar for assistance.

I have no problem plugging my iPhone or iPad into my 2017 MBP.


"I've found the value of an Apple product becomes really evident when you own all the other Apple products and have them work as well as can be expected together."

Yep, same here. And all my Apple devices work extremely well together. Macs, iPhone, iPad, Watch, and HomePod. No adapters (aka "dongles" if people are still in school) necessary, other than a USB-C to RJ45 gigabit ethernet adapter (an RJ45 female jack hasn't been on an Apple laptop in a long time) needed from time to time.
 
Bummed to see my favorite Apple device get this treatment. I'm fine with bezels and home buttons, don't want face ID.

Less weight would be great but not for the sacrifices. So glad I invested in a 512 model when I did.
I just don’t get it. U people understand that every company follows apples lead, there will not be any headphone jacks in a couple years, you have been warned.
Maybe a couple **** phone makers will keep the he
Maybe you should make an appointment at the Genius Bar for assistance.

I have no problem plugging my iPhone or iPad into my 2017 MBP.


"I've found the value of an Apple product becomes really evident when you own all the other Apple products and have them work as well as can be expected together."

Yep, same here. And all my Apple devices work extremely well together. Macs, iPhone, iPad, Watch, and HomePod. No adapters (aka "dongles" if people are still in school) necessary, other than a USB-C to RJ45 gigabit ethernet adapter (an RJ45 female jack hasn't been on an Apple laptop in a long time) needed from time to time.
it must be the 60+ year olds that are upset,
They can’t explain why they want the headphone jack, they just want it dam it.
 
People, so dramatic... you have 3 options.

1) use a bluetooth headset. MDR-X1000M2 and Bose QC35 are both pretty good.

2) use the dongle. If it's not in the box, buy it. $10 ain't gonna affect your life when you're already spending whatever this will cost.

3) buy a random bluetooth 3.5mm adapter on Amazon for $15 and use it with either headphones or speakers.
 
People, so dramatic... you have 3 options.

1) use a bluetooth headset. MDR-X1000M2 and Bose QC35 are both pretty good.

2) use the dongle. If it's not in the box, buy it. $10 ain't gonna affect your life when you're already spending whatever this will cost.

3) buy a random bluetooth 3.5mm adapter on Amazon for $15 and use it with either headphones or speakers.
Well said, I think it’s that older crowd 50+ you know the people, when something changes they have a heart attack
 
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