Same here. A friend of mine built a hackintosh. I said goodbye to my old MBP and replaced with a Linux machine running Debian. Sad really.
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Same here. A friend of mine built a hackintosh. I said goodbye to my old MBP and replaced with a Linux machine running Debian. Sad really.
If the Mac's first version was Catalina there won't be a build of Mojave that will work properly with it out the gate. So if you get a 2019 15" that happens to ship with Catalina, yes you could drop down a version, but if you were to get a 2019 16" Catalina would be as far back as you could go as that model doesn't exist as far as Mojave is concerned. Arguably you could manually patch it and tinker to make it work, but it would be a lot of work.
It would take some kernel modifications to make it work, it's a lot of work, and who knows if you will ever get to make it work without problems. Not worth the hassle, IMO.
I would just use Catalina. It is meant to work on 16" MBP, after all.
Officially, it doesn’t. It’s hidden from our sight. It is somewhere there inside dark and cold warehouses, waiting to see light of the day.Which, don’t forget, doesn’t exist yet...
I totally agree here. I have no problem adopting or adapting to new technology, I mean I sold my entire cd collection when I bought my second iPod. That was a clear case of the future at hand and I jumped in. But usb-a and even vga video is slow to die. HDMI or wireless video is the future, but the costs for campuses nationwide to replace every projector or smart board are far more cost prohibitive than an individual buying an iPod. Schools and universities are going to be using vga and usb-a for several more years. It’s a case where Apple simply can’t “innovate” us into adapting overnight. They need to recognize technology that is still needed and not ready to die like the cd.
But then again, it a way to make more profit by requiring us to buy dongles and adapters....
More than the 16" rMBP, I'm looking forward to today's Macrumors Article about the 16" rMBP.
This is the issue at hand.
It's absolutely ludicrous that the 16" MBP has been in production, is now stockpiled, and won't release till next year with outdated specs.
I'm still riding high that we are going to see an announcement very soon. Maybe next week with Apple's involvement with whatever show they are doing and the launch of Apple TV+ now behind them.
Let's be clear, though. We don't know that any of what you've said here is actually true.
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what makes you think it will be next year? Maybe they just want enough to stock their stores for launch.
Apple has made solutions to adapt to VGA for 17 years (PowerBook G4 DVI), so this is nothing new for anyone using Apple products. Even now, Apple recognizes that people still need to connect to VGA devices and has USB-C and Lightning Adapters for more recent devices. Apple hasn’t shipped a laptop with onboard GbE for 7 years (Mid 2012 MacBook Pro non-Retina). USB-C has been on Apple computers for over 4-1/2 years (2015 12” MacBook). All of these things have hardly been overnight. Over 18 months elapsed from the introduction of the 2015 12” MacBook to the introduction of the 2016 MacBook Pro. While jettisoning all legacy ports for Thunderbolt 3 may have come as a shock for some, once Thunderbolt 3 adopted the USB-C port, it became evident that the future was coming soon. Apple took a calculated risk in releasing it “early”, but is there ever a good time to replace 3 ports (MagSafe, Thundebolt 1/2/mDP and USB-A) with one Port? Judging by the fact that it VGA keeps hanging on like the undead thing it is, probably not.
HDMI is not the future, it is the here and now and frankly getting old in and of itself. I don’t foresee it going away any time soon, but a simple USB-C to HDMI cable makes it easy enough to mitigate any incompatibilities.
USB-A is slowly being phased out in favor of USB-C (even if it USB 2.0 speed on some devices) and a replacement cable exists for nearly every use case one can think of needing.
Apple has never been sentimental about replacing ports, even its own. FireWire disappeared very quickly and even had a DVD-ROM drive in the MacBook Pros and iMac until 2012.
Unless you have a captive cable device such as a mouse or a keyboard, you can replace cables with USB-C versions quite economically. The dongles and adapters argument simply does not hold water anymore.
Hopefully due to the EU 'right to repair' rules for appliances 2021 we see a better iFixit repairability score than 1. On the other hand the pricetag will be ridiculously high. Feel already tempted to change to windows.
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You’re considering leaving Apple because they don’t have a USB-A port or MagSafe?
Apple hasn’t made a MacBook Pro with onboard GbE since the Mid 2012 non-Retina MacBook Pro. I used a Thunderbolt 2 to GbE adapter for years.
External video is easy enough with a USB-C to HDMI or USB-C to DisplayPort cable.
I have two dongles for USB-C to USB-A, and they get used, but for the most part I have simply replaced cables. I hook up my Apple Keyboard via adapter from time to time, I’m not sure why your saying your Apple Keyboard won’t work with one.
USB-C PD is now the common power supply. Charge from any port on a MacBook Pro. Trust me, you can still pull a MacBook Pro off a desk with MagSafe. Frankly, I had more issue with the things disconnecting on me when I simply moved my laptop around and was at the extreme end of the cabling.
Things change, remember when the Parallel port and the Serial port (DB-9) Got replaced by USB 1.1? That was a headache and lots of people were none too happy that things that previously worked just fine now had some weird port and required a new cable or an adapter. All of this has happened before and all of this will happen again.
Absolutely right! However, some people in the group start leaning one way when they hear a rumor. I am one of them. Just take this as speculation. That's all we do here in a forum where we speculate on rumors.
Oh, I don't and I never said it would be. However, a few members here have posted that they are pretty confident the MBP will not launch until 2020. I am giving an opposite viewpoint where I think IF THE MBP was already in production, it would be crazy to make its specs outdated by waiting a few more months for its release.
But there’s only major thing that’s totally missing- a 30 pin to USB C cable. Will we ever see one?
No...30-pin has been gone for a long time, product-wise, and there just isn’t sufficient demand for anyone to take engineering time to create such a cable given the low sales it will see. No one wants to pay $40 for a cable, which is most likely the lowest end cost I can see happening. Besides an Apple USB-A to USB-C cable adapter exists for $19 which is cheaper and more versatile in the long run.
Or are you being sarcastic? Sometimes, I can’t tell.
Transcend offers a drive that you can upgrade. I think this was the one of the last MacBook pros that you could reasonably upgrade the drive after.
How do you know?
Evidence appears to point at Apple launching Nov/Dec when inventory is built up as MBP's aren't Christmas purchases. As per a previous post, other MBP's have been launched around then.
This 16" machine looks -- from the layout photos -- as if it'll only be an incremental update with a couple of changes. It's not like the move to unibody or retina; it's just an update of a (largely disliked) keyboard and a screen update.
It'll almost certainly include all the naff bits such as a low-travel keyboard that reduces accuracy; lack of ports (yay, so dongle-tastic, don't forget them); the pointless touch bar (take your eyes from the screen and look longingly at where the function keys used to live); not to mention being gouged another $20 for a cable on the power brick (thankfully we have lots of those from previous generations of MBP).
Personally, hoping that the keyboard will be slightly less useless than the current one and vainly hope for more ports. Maybe some subtle updates to the internals. Not expecting anything radical such as more memory or an updated chipset.
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Glenny,
You haven't been reading previous posts. I already addressed this.
I don't know
Nobody knows
I am just reacting to rumors about the MBP being in production and currently being stockpiled.
I am also reacting to *some* members of this forum still pointing to a 2020 release which would be ludicrous if the above sentence is true.
And, yes, this is an INCREMENTAL UPDATE which means most likely it will be announced in a press release over the next few weeks. In fact, there is a big Adobe MAX software show next week where some think Apple will take the opportunity to announce the Mac Pro and Macbook Pro
I think we are on the same page.
To be fair, your wording was very sloppy in the post that everyone is replying to. We can only read and respond to what you wrote, not what you meant. Perhaps in the future you might choose to be more precise in your language to avoid this sort of confusion.
You said:
"It's absolutely ludicrous that the 16" MBP has been in production, is now stockpiled, and won't release till next year with outdated specs."
But apparently you meant:
"It would be absolutely ludicrous if the 16" MBP has been in production, is now stockpiled, and won't release till next year with outdated specs."
My apologies for what you deem to be a poorly written post and for any misconceptions it may have caused.
However, in defense, I was specifically replying to someone else who was implying that Apple would be stockpiling MBP's for 2020 release.
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No. I’m being serious. There’s millions of iPods and older iPhones still in use.