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Apple Said to Receive 16-Inch MacBook Pro Shipments This Quarter, Launch Timing Remains Unclear
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I’ve ignored the iPad for years because of the software limitations. I simply cannot use an iPad that won’t allow file transfer by usb. Now that iPadOS solves that, it makes it an option for me. My biggest worry is adapting to the mobile versions of iWork/Office. The documents I create are fairly complex, and multiple windows/multitasking is a must. Still not sure how cumbersome that would be on an iPad
Would you settle for 16.5”? One bonus, it’ll be a couple pounds lighter
I am not sure that I would. The 17" had RAM, Hard Disks, and Battery that could be easily removed and replaced. I use my older 17" from time to time (2007), and am considering a used newer one that can handle more RAM. Battery? Two clips and it pops out. RAM? Three screws. Hard Drive? About 15 phillips head screws, standard SATA sizing, and away we go. 2007 unit has a SSD in it.
My work laptop is a 2013 MacBook Pro 15" with the removable hard drive. The battery has lost most of the original capacity, and I am looking at a day where I can pull it all apart and replace the battery. My 17" will be laughing electrons at the 2013, with the insane procedure to unglue a battery from the case.
No way in hell will I get a 2016 - 2019 device. Soldered RAM, soldered hard drive, no Mag Plus?
My next new Mac will likely be a Hackintosh, or a used 2015. Or it may be Linux. And it pisses me off that the eggheads in Cupertino do not consider what folks here desire for hardware. Dongle reduction. Self repair. Magsafe.
I think they will upgrade to WIFI 6 802.11ax. The iphone 11 already have it and I have loved my Netgear Nighthawk 802.11ax router. The new Mac Pro does not have it so you will need to do a 802.11ax adapter or a PCI card if you want WIFI 6 in the new Mac Pro.
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See big price drops on the most popular model. hmmm
It's difficult to imagine any potential Mac Pro buyer who cares about fast WiFi. I think the WiFi in the MP is just there as a convenience so that AirDrop can function. Those vast majority of those machines are going to be wired with gigabit at a minimum.
Yes at home with my 802.11ax router and 160 channel width I am getting 1gbps wifi. So if you do not have access to tethered Ethernet it is still a good option, and that is what is great about the new Mac Pro you can add it
Some of you can give up hope and say that there will be no MBP release this year.
You would be in your right and you could even be correct.
However...
I still think there are too many signs of more products to be announced.
I'm giving the next few weeks a chance to prove that. Someone mentioned some kind of show next week where Apple could make an announcement.
Yes, we may continue going around in circles with these rumors for the next 8 weeks with nothing to show for it.
However, I certainly haven't given up my personal expectation that there is an announcement that is imminent.
You would be in your right and you could even be correct.
However...
I still think there are too many signs of more products to be announced.
I'm giving the next few weeks a chance to prove that. Someone mentioned some kind of show next week where Apple could make an announcement.
Yes, we may continue going around in circles with these rumors for the next 8 weeks with nothing to show for it.
However, I certainly haven't given up my personal expectation that there is an announcement that is imminent.
Would agree, the 16in Macbook Pro is their top of the line model. It is not a blow out the door black Friday system. The Macbook Air or the intro Macbook Pro 13, that around $1000 units are the Christmas deals. The 16in Macbook Pro i9 processor is the business system. They do not need a ton of these for the Holiday sales season because they are not for your run of the mill, lowed PC or Mac person. I always love the people and buy the lowest POS on the market around Christmas time and within a year, it can not do what they want.
When i configure my Macbook Pro with a external EGPU it will be like $4000 on the set up.
They do not aim this system for Holiday sales.
The conflicting rumours are beyond frustrating.
My insurance company is replacing my older MBP due to a flood. I'm really hoping this 16" is coming out in the next week as I don't want to replace my old MBP with a butterfly keyboard MBP. No way.
My insurance company is replacing my older MBP due to a flood. I'm really hoping this 16" is coming out in the next week as I don't want to replace my old MBP with a butterfly keyboard MBP. No way.
I understand exactly what you are saying.
At this point, any explanation is a valid one.
I don't think Apple is looking at this MBP as a "Black Friday" seller.
What bothers me is the number of leaks and stories that have been circulating about its imminent release.
First, months ago, we get word of Apple's plan to release it.
Then we get word that it could have a new scissor-keyboard.
Then we get word that there's a 95-watt power supply
Then we start hearing, at least 9 weeks ago, the model is in production
Then we start seeing icons buried in betas of Catalina
This week we get the clearest picture of it ever
Then there are the reports of other products surfacing for imminent releases such as Air Tracker and Mac Pro.
There is just too much stuff surfacing at once --- far more than I have ever seen with any Apple release outside of the iPhone.
No, I haven't given up yet.
Yep, they just need enough of different model configuration for a launch then monitor unit sales which is easier on a lower volume computer and start ramping up if you start getting a lot sales. I am sure all the Macbook Air, and Macbook 13in models have all been built and ready for holiday sales so they do not have to worry about production on these models. My guess these two production lines are almost not running. So if they need to ramp up a 16in Macbook production they would have plenty of production capacity to built a lot in a short time. You are not going to get a ton of people rushing out and purchasing a Ton of Macbook Pro 16in and Macbook Pro models. They will sell a lot it is just over a longer timeline.
I hope so. Any event they have is the cheapest advertising they put out. People all over the world tune in. Just have a small event in one of your many conference rooms on campus. Probably won’t happen though.
I’m still surprised that this rumored laptop doesn’t have Face ID. If this is the future for secure authentication, why not share the tech with their other products?
If you were expecting Mag Safe and removable RAM, hard drives and batteries along with the larger display, you might as well punch out now. That’s a good part of how they’re going to get from 6.6 lbs. to 4.4 lbs. for this 16.5” MBP.
When you’re cutting a third of the weight, something gotta give. Users told Cupertino they wanted (much) lighter laptops, and Apple responded. But it might not be what you want.
If you’re ok with an older machine, a newer-model 17” could be an option. If your ok with Widows, Linux or stealing MacOS, a non-Apple laptop might be the answer.
But if you don’t want a slightly larger version of the current 15.4” MBP (with a non-butterfly keyboard), there’s no point in waiting around for the new 16”. It was never going to be anything other than that, imo.
Hello,
I think you may be right concerning punching out. We have learned to live without the DVD drive (I am in computer support / network administration, so I carry a USB BluRay around for the occasional media), but some of the items such as ethernet dongles or the removal of MagSafe just baffles me (and others).
I don't mind the weight; I thought the light laptops was for the MacBook AIR series of products. No, I am not looking for a luggable, but functionality (ports) are required. External video, ethernet, and USB A are items I use daily. And yes, my nano / emacs utilities make great use of the ESC key. I am surprised that someone hasn't come out with a USB-C escape key. Maybe something the size of the old Apple Hockey Puck mouse with a large ESC key on it. Yes, I am being absurd, but my USB A Apple Keyboard won't work with this machine either, unless I go battery and bluetooth.
Yes I am touching 50 years, and seeking elegant tools like we had yesterday. The current Apple wants the thinnest lightest dongle-me-up elmer-glued disposable design they can produce. Go look at Amazon or Ebay -- older Macs command a price that you don't see in Windows Land. Why? They were solid machines, with the ability to easily repair. Durable. They have value.
Please don't see me as an old fuddy-duddy that gripes about everything. I do like some innovations, like the Apple Watch, and the Sidecar expansion. Those are useful to me. I also like the ability to use a common power supply -- MagSafe 1 or MagSafe 2. Common sense and useful. After 2015, I lost excitement on the Apple Mac product line, and I am not the only one.
What a shame.. forced to use Catalina with no possibility of "downgrade" to Mojave.. I'll be stuck at current gen macbook pro and imac/imac pro for the rest of my days if I want to stay with apple. I have 100's of 32 bit audio apps that will never be updated, that I will always rely on. I am more or less ok with the "moving forward" ethos of Apple.. but this one has pushed it a bit too far.. Another example..gamers will lose almost their entire steam catalog with a new macbook 16".. It's just crazy.. It could hurt no one at apple to allow 32 bit apps to launch.. it's like Apple does it just to be purposely difficult.. I know what it is of course, they want all devs to simply "get with the times", but don't realise how impossible that is for many smaller devs out there.. I really think I just have to make the transition to windows once and for all and be done with it.
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I'll believe better thermals in a Mac product when I see them. Have to make it .000005 mm thicker which would make Tim's hair fall out.
Apple has warned developers for the past 15 years this is the way they were going and that eventually it was going to happen and now that its happened with all that warning the anger from users is simply comical.
Hopefully, but doubtfully, Microsoft will do the same thing and draw the same line in the sand. We’re in the year 2019, at some point, code has to move forward. I don’t expect to see a transition to anything higher for quite a while, if ever.
Good luck with your transition to Windows.
I think Windows is starting to with Windows 10X. We've known about 64-bit as a software requirement since Snow Leopard 10 years ago.
Except for that to work the same you have to leave that nub sticking out of your computer at all times. You are more likely to wreck the port on the computer with that than just using the cable. it doesn't really solve anything. I want legit magsafe back, but just let people also charge from USB C if they like. My work laptop that is a Dell has a regular charge port and also allows charging from USB-C, no reason Apple can't do that too and satisfy both users.
The USB-C ports on my '16 MBP are so loose that they're effectively MagSafe connectors now. Best of both worlds, right?
I agree having both would probably be the best option. You make a good point about the nub being a problem.