Apple-Samsung Dispute: Galaxy Tab 7.7 Pulled in Germany, iPad Sales Disclosure in Australia?

[KnightWRX]

I've never owned a Samsung phone/computer/tablet/etc.

My Samsung fridge marks me as the staunchest Samsung fanboy there is. Also, since their CEO told me that Apple was rude and unpleasant, I now hate Apple with a passion.

 

[Rodimus Prime]

The Apple would still win because of the fact that it is Apple
Owning an Apple and showing it in public is a status symbol, bit like flashing an American Express platinum card about or driving a Ferrari, it holds the same level of status and feeling of wealth and superiority so I have no doubt at all that the Apple would triumph if it was the same price as the GalaxyII because owning a Samsung does not have that feeling of status and people are very status conscious.

And we wonder why Apple fans are though so poorly of. Thank you for making us all look like eltist know nothing snobs.

I wasn't convinced but now I am, you must be paid by Samsung or Google to make look Apple fans dumb.

Sad part is I find that his views are pretty tyipical of Apple fanboys.

 

[kdarling]

One year ago, Steve Jobs stated that 7" tablets could not compete with the iPad.

 

[boss.king]

It still wouldn't sell even close to the iPad3 no matter how "kick ass" the product was in specs, people are buying Apple products because it is Apple.

2 products were launched in the UK on the same day in March, iPad 2 and Nintendo 3DS

Queues a mile long were reported for the iPad 2 outside the Regent St Apple Store, the 3DS was launched with barely a whimper.

5 months later the 3DS was being heavily price cut because of lack of interest yet despite a deep economic crisis in the UK you couldn't get an iPad 2 above 16gb without incredible effort, even in August the John Lewis website would sell iPad2 stock in seconds.

The £200 3DS was destroyed by the £659 iPad 2 in a deep recession

People buy Apple because of the fact it is Apple

2 completely different products. One is a handheld gaming console, the other is a multimedia tablet. One has a gimmicky 3D display, the other has a 10" 2D display. You're example is poor. I'm pretty sure bread outsells iPhones every day around the world, but you wouldn't draw any meaningful conclusion from that.

 

[accessoriesguy]

while i read this an ad stating "high profile attorneys" was showing here on Mac Rumors. I wonder if this is all some kind of attorney conspiracy to get themselves hired.

 

[the8thark]

Apple is a cult/lifestyle not just a tech company

And the others are still selling products and not alternate lifestyle choices like Apple is?

Well now you know why Apple makes all the cash and has the highest selling phones.

 

[CWT1965]

And we wonder why Apple fans are though so poorly of. Thank you for making us all look like eltist know nothing snobs.



Sad part is I find that his views are pretty tyipical of Apple fanboys.

I am just saying how things come across my side of the pond, in America things might be different attitudes but in the UK people like to show off and flaunt what they have and status and being assumed of as wealthy is a massive reason why people buy Apple products in the UK.

In the UK if you shop at certain stores you are sneered at, buy your food from Aldi, Netto, Lidl or Asda you will be thought of as a chav/pikey (trailer trash in your country) but buy at Waitrose you will be thought of as wealthy which is why Waitrose profits are at an all time record high, go to Poundland you will be thought of as a benefit claimant, shop at Primark you will be laughed at and shame cast upon you so people like to make big fashion statements and wealth statements by buying Apple phones and tablet computers so they are considered wealthy by people in the streets.

There is an extreme hate in the UK for the poor and the jobless, people like to look wealthy which is one of the big reasons Apple does so well

 

[lukarak]

Many of them looked like "the ipad" did before the ipad, and many of them still today looks like the non-ipad looking did before. As for why? Because form usually follows function. We have been over this so many times by now. Dont start once more. Just accept that you really dont know what youre talking about.

It's not just look from the outside, i'm talking about the whole design, internal and external, hardware and software.

 

[CWT1965]

And the others are still selling products and not alternate lifestyle choices like Apple is?

Well now you know why Apple makes all the cash and has the highest selling phones.

I buy Apple equipment because of the amazing quality of the products but I do not deny that there is a religious cult like following of Apple by large numbers, Apple is almost a kind of peaceful non religious Al Qaeda, I am not comparing Jobs with Osama but in the way that they could control and unite their followers I guess there was a comparison.

 

[lukarak]

I buy Apple equipment because of the amazing quality of the products but I do not deny that there is a religious cult like following of Apple by large numbers, Apple is almost a kind of peaceful non religious Al Qaeda, I am not comparing Jobs with Osama but in the way that they could control and unite their followers I guess there was a comparison.

They couldn't, or otherwise every Apple customer would have a mobileMe subscription

A small number of people buy apple stuff because it's apple no mater what the product is.
Most buy it because it suits them, and some of them are (or better said, were) prepared to pay a little more for the fact it is Apple. That is not the case anymore in most of their product lines.

I'm not prepared to pay more because a product has an Apple logo. I just think, and am willing to put my money behind it, that for example in laptops, the unibody enclosure is worth an extra payment. Or the trackpad. or something else. It has nothing to do with Apple as a company, cult or whatever. I just reserve the right to choose what i want, and will react to any comment stating that I do that because of what other people think. I drive a Dacia for christ's sake.

 

[CWT1965]

They couldn't, or otherwise every Apple customer would have a mobileMe subscription

A small number of people buy apple stuff because it's apple no mater what the product is.
Most buy it because it suits them, and some of them are (or better said, were) prepared to pay a little more for the fact it is Apple. That is not the case anymore in most of their product lines.

I'm not prepared to pay more because a product has an Apple logo. I just think, and am willing to put my money behind it, that for example in laptops, the unibody enclosure is worth an extra payment. Or the trackpad. or something else. It has nothing to do with Apple as a company, cult or whatever. I just reserve the right to choose what i want, and will react to any comment stating that I do that because of what other people think. I drive a Dacia for christ's sake.

I am 45, have owned Apple products for over 20 years, I buy Apple because it is Apple as they have never let me down in all the time I have bought Apple stuff but certainly teenagers and early 20's student types by and large get Apple products as a status symbol and a statement of supposed wealth, us old time hardcores don't buy for status reasons but the youth of today certainly do in the UK anyway.

 

[AppleScruff1]

I cannot understand how some of you seriously wish that Apple have an absolute monopoly on consumer electronics. Maybe look into living in China-- communism seems like a good suit for you.

Because Apple is great and Uncle Steve is our leader.

And we wonder why Apple fans are though so poorly of. Thank you for making us all look like eltist know nothing snobs.

Sad part is I find that his views are pretty tyipical of Apple fanboys.

These are the views of many on this forum. Most of the real fanboys feel this way.

One year ago, Steve Jobs stated that 7" tablets could not compete with the iPad.

And next year when the 7" iPad is released it will be the perfect size for a tablet just because Apple made it.

 

[CWT1965]

One year ago, Steve Jobs stated that 7" tablets could not compete with the iPad.

I hope and expect Apple will never take the 7" route, if anything they should make iPad's bigger, 11-12" in size, I would certainly buy that in a heartbeat

 

[*LTD*]

The Apple would still win because of the fact that it is Apple
Owning an Apple and showing it in public is a status symbol, bit like flashing an American Express platinum card about or driving a Ferrari, it holds the same level of status and feeling of wealth and superiority so I have no doubt at all that the Apple would triumph if it was the same price as the GalaxyII because owning a Samsung does not have that feeling of status and people are very status conscious.

Yup, the grapes are sour anyway.

 

[ipoppy]

Apple is getting a bit douchey and anti-competitive.

Seem like whiney children now. "Mommy! Timmy is copying me!!"

This is nothing to do with competition anymore; Samsung does not have any own design ideas to compete with Apple, they just simply copy all and that make me think about this company in low quality terms.
I am not Apple fanboy but what Samsung does is rather low standard of business etiquette.

 

[rockrigo]

samsung should just say, "oh you know what, it does kind of look like an iPad, hmm so do our TVs and digital picture frames that we've been making for a while now"

 

[xindc]

apple cloned the notebook design because its macbook has a screen, keyboard, speakers, cpu, and etc....

 

[Dr McKay]

It still wouldn't sell even close to the iPad3 no matter how "kick ass" the product was in specs, people are buying Apple products because it is Apple.

2 products were launched in the UK on the same day in March, iPad 2 and Nintendo 3DS

Queues a mile long were reported for the iPad 2 outside the Regent St Apple Store, the 3DS was launched with barely a whimper.

5 months later the 3DS was being heavily price cut because of lack of interest yet despite a deep economic crisis in the UK you couldn't get an iPad 2 above 16gb without incredible effort, even in August the John Lewis website would sell iPad2 stock in seconds.

The £200 3DS was destroyed by the £659 iPad 2 in a deep recession

People buy Apple because of the fact it is Apple

And yet the Xbox Kinect was hailed as the fastest and best selling gadget in history?

 

[divinox]

And yet the Xbox Kinect was hailed as the fastest and best selling gadget in history?

And W7 the fastest selling OS of all time (400 million copies in less than 2 years).

MSFT surely hasnt got a clue.

 

[CWT1965]

And yet the Xbox Kinect was hailed as the fastest and best selling gadget in history?

Indeed

But for an iPad 2 to sell tens of millions (2 million in the UK alone apparently) at a large price in a deep economic crisis is a hell of an achievement, it is about 3 times the price of Kinect and on top of that X Box has been going on for many years (XBox/XBox360) whereas this was only the 2nd iPad so Microsoft had a bigger starting base to sell Kinect into

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And W7 the fastest selling OS of all time (400 million copies in less than 2 years).

MSFT surely hasnt got a clue.

Again you are comparing something that costs around £90 with something that costs in the region of £500 for a decent model

At a time when tens of millions are losing their jobs in the civilised world something that costs 1/5th the cost of an iPad is going to out sell the iPad

 

[apolloa]

Who else just wants the iPhone 5 already?

Quote of the day, sums my feelings exactly. I'm getting a PSVITA for portable gaming, may get what will be the brilliant little Amazon Tablet (providing Apple don't block it's sales) and I shall just stick with my MacBook Pro and upgrade it.

I actually was set to buy a new laptop, but I don't really have the money and the more I think about it the more it's a bit pointless, but when I saw this story the other day I felt utterly disgusted with Apple and will not buy a new computer from them.
I am also even more disgusted with the judge's passing these bans, Apple has to be paying them some serious back handers or the judge seriously thick to state a 7" tablet looks the same and can be confused with a 9" one! I'm sure any women would tell you the difference with that in penis size!!!

So I have just concluded Apple as a whole has now just become totally obsessed with profit and being number one in the tablet market, it's all down to spite, it's jealous it will NEVER be number one in computers so will force it's way to the top in another market.

If Apple is incapable of innovating enough to beat the competition it should get it's coat and step out of the ball park.........

And the Kinect rules... wicked little gadget.

 

[CWT1965]

Quote of the day, sums my feelings exactly. I'm getting a PSVITA for portable gaming, may get what will be the brilliant little Amazon Tablet (providing Apple don't block it's sales) and I shall just stick with my MacBook Pro and upgrade it.

I actually was set to buy a new laptop, but I don't really have the money and the more I think about it the more it's a bit pointless, but when I saw this story the other day I felt utterly disgusted with Apple and will not buy a new computer from them.
I am also even more disgusted with the judge's passing these bans, Apple has to be paying them some serious back handers or the judge seriously thick to state a 7" tablet looks the same and can be confused with a 9" one! I'm sure any women would tell you the difference with that in penis size!!!

So I have just concluded Apple as a whole has now just become totally obsessed with profit and being number one in the tablet market, it's all down to spite, it's jealous it will NEVER be number one in computers so will force it's way to the top in another market.

If Apple is incapable of innovating enough to beat the competition it should get it's coat and step out of the ball park.........

And the Kinect rules... wicked little gadget.

Please set up a business, ideally one selling a product you designed, when you do please come back to me with the exact details so that I can make a carbon copy of the design and sell it cheaper than you are selling yours, I will not bother innovating I will just steal your designs and make money off of it, I trust you will not complain when I do given your attitude in this thread

 

[apolloa]

The £200 3DS was destroyed by the £659 iPad 2 in a deep recession

WRONG! the 3DS lost sales due to it's over price, it's severe lack of launch games, it's ability to give people headaches and make them sick, and the fact 6 year olds cannot use it. Why don't you compare the Nintendo DS to the original iPad? Go on, see who's figures are bigger then...

Please set up a business, ideally one selling a product you designed, when you do please come back to me with the exact details so that I can make a carbon copy of the design and sell it cheaper than you are selling yours, I will not bother innovating I will just steal your designs and make money off of it, I trust you will not complain when I do given your attitude in this thread

Hey, if your jealous and obsessed enough to manipulate the law to win market share because you are utterly scared of the competition and incapable of innovating enough to generate sales, don't blame me matey!

9"..... 7"..... WOW, the two are, just..... like so..... alike.......

 

[divinox]

Indeed

But for an iPad 2 to sell tens of millions (2 million in the UK alone apparently) at a large price in a deep economic crisis is a hell of an achievement, it is about 3 times the price of Kinect and on top of that X Box has been going on for many years (XBox/XBox360) whereas this was only the 2nd iPad so Microsoft had a bigger starting base to sell Kinect into

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Again you are comparing something that costs around £90 with something that costs in the region of £500 for a decent model

At a time when tens of millions are losing their jobs in the civilised world something that costs 1/5th the cost of an iPad is going to out sell the iPad

Ah, sorry. Forgot that only people making points in favor of Apple are allowed to make ****** comparisons. My bad.

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Quote of the day, sums my feelings exactly. I'm getting a PSVITA for portable gaming, may get what will be the brilliant little Amazon Tablet (providing Apple don't block it's sales) and I shall just stick with my MacBook Pro and upgrade it.

I actually was set to buy a new laptop, but I don't really have the money and the more I think about it the more it's a bit pointless, but when I saw this story the other day I felt utterly disgusted with Apple and will not buy a new computer from them.
I am also even more disgusted with the judge's passing these bans, Apple has to be paying them some serious back handers or the judge seriously thick to state a 7" tablet looks the same and can be confused with a 9" one! I'm sure any women would tell you the difference with that in penis size!!!

So I have just concluded Apple as a whole has now just become totally obsessed with profit and being number one in the tablet market, it's all down to spite, it's jealous it will NEVER be number one in computers so will force it's way to the top in another market.

If Apple is incapable of innovating enough to beat the competition it should get it's coat and step out of the ball park.........

And the Kinect rules... wicked little gadget.

Indeed. Amazing range of use outside the narrow scope of laid-back gaming too. Cant be long until we see this implemented in pc:s too. I can see my self flicking and scrolling air. Would probably work quite well with the W8-Metro UI too. Just point and click in the air.

 

[rockrigo]

carbon copy? how is that possible? they don't even run the same OS (if you think Samsung Touchwiz tiles look anything like iOS's static icon grid please jump off a cliff)

the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the iPad look just as a like as say a Samsung TV and an LG one look a like