Plus your comparison was flawed too because for decades Gates forced PC manufacturers to operate on Windows so there are hundreds of millions if not billions of pc's out there running windows so even if 10% upgraded to Windows 7 that is probably 100m copies sold, Gates locked in all the pc manufacturers and made them include Windows so you can't compare 1) the initial starter base of potential users and b) the price
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Plus your comparison was flawed too because for decades Gates forced PC manufacturers to operate on Windows so there are hundreds of millions if not billions of pc's out there running windows so even if 10% upgraded to Windows 7 that is probably 100m copies sold, Gates locked in all the pc manufacturers and made them include Windows so you can't compare 1) the initial starter base of potential users and b) the price
Which is its genius. Tech that is an extension of the user, and not the other way round. And naturally, consumers respond.
Why can't anyone else pull this off?
And yet Kinect still has a well earned bad reputation amongst the die-hard 360 users, as it certainly is not made for the Core gamer market - you know, the people who made the 360 great.
Basically there is a high percentage of die-hard 360 fans that refuse to buy Kinect as there still is no 'killer app' for it. Wonder what Forza 4 will bring, but currently it's a gimmick at best (though a best selling one).
According to this, the DS sold about 17.5 million between 3/31/2010 and 3/31/2011.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_sales
Apple sold 19.5 million iPads in the same timeframe.
What's your point?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS_sales
Apple sold 19.5 million iPads in the same timeframe.
What's your point?
Really?
Apple released the first iPad in April 2010, and sold 3 million of the devices in 80 days.[17] During 2010, Apple sold 14.8 million iPads worldwide,[7][8][9] representing 75 percent of tablet PC sales at the end of 2010.[18]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPad#References
And using YOUR link it states from end of March 2010 to end of December 2010 the DS sold 15.7 mil worldwide....... hmm, one is a brand new device in a new market, the other is a device that was 5 years old in a market a lot older then that!!
Again, what's your point? You asked to compare the original iPad to the DS. I did. The original iPad outsold the DS during its first year. If you want to compare just the first year of each device, the iPad (19.5 million) outsold the DS (14 million).
Again, what's your point? You asked to compare the original iPad to the DS. I did. The original iPad outsold the DS during its first year. If you want to compare just the first year of each device, the iPad (19.5 million) outsold the DS (14 million).
erm? I just proved you wrong using wikepedia information in the above post, so what's your point? You want to pick and choose your facts depending on the device you are talking about? So what's the point in your post then?
There inlies the main argument against Apple from Internet geeks: consumers respond to Apple products because consumers are brainwashed and dumb. They argue if the consumers were smarter, they would buy whatever countercultural products popular amongst geeks at that time instead of dumb mainstream products like Android. Mind you that once upon a time the same geek crowd were telling us how superior Symbian and Windows Mobile were compared to iPhone.
Seems to me, it's not really all that different from the teenage kids listening to emo rock scoffing at the kids listening to popular dance hiphop but it's fun participating in the pissing match.
What you describe is being competitive. In every day language, "compete" and "compete successfully" are often confused. We say "product X cannot compete with product Y" when product X competes, just not very successfully.
An action is anti-competitive if it prevents someone from competing, not if it prevents someone from competing successfully. You would think that if product X is better and/or cheaper than product Y, then people would buy X instead of Y. If Y creates a situation where people will not or cannot buy X even if it is better, that would be anti-competitive.
I'm starting to feel sorry for Sammy now.
My household has two Sammy TVs, does that make me a Samsung fanboy? I only own one
device. ZOMG, Blasphemy!
I can assure you that all the room cleaners that come into my office in the evening have either iPhones or Samsung phones that look like iPhones. But many do have indeed iPhones. So if you think that an iPhone is a useful and pleasant device, go ahead and buy one. But if you think an iPhone gives you any kind of status, please.
You have just proved my point, fake status, assumed wealth
If they are walking down the street with an iPhone 4 in casual clothes people passing by will assume that they are rich, maybe bankers or managers and so on when infact they are minimum wage earning cleaners, that is a big reason why people buy iPhone's, to make passers by assume they are rich when infact they are poor.
Where I work in the UK, in the office people had iPhones etc but a fair few of them have got Galaxy S 2's now. They have shock horror left the hip snobby iPhone elite for a look a like wanna be.........
Yeah, the iPhone a stauts symbol
thank God that statement is totally false.. maybe if your 14??----------
oh my good God................ you seriously made me fall of my chair with laughter at your stupid comment. In fact that has to be the most screwed up comment I have read ANYWHERE on the internet this year!!!!!!
What a classic, hell I want to use it as my signature? Can I do that on here?? Oh please let me....
Are you serious?
iPhones being used as an indicator of wealth??? I can't stop laughing!
My 8 year old daughter has my old iPhone 3GS running on a T-Mobile pay-go SIM.
I better tell her to watch out... people might think she's loaded.
my eyes are watering with laughter hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
your funnier then the South Park I've got on the TV.......
By that measure they're the same when it comes to Windows.
In a sea of PCs, in virtually all price ranges, consumers have to actually *choose* Macs, for example. This is especially true in a recession. We saw that during a recession, despite MS' huge Laptop Hunters campaign, which advertised cheap notebooks that ran Windows (which also portrayed consumers as dumb yokels, that part was especially funny), Apple ended up selling more Macs than ever.
"Internet geeks" should refrain from market analysis because they routinely display a startling lack of understanding about the market in the first place. They are absolutely dumbfounded when Apple's quarterly report rolls around. Like it was totally unexpected, how all their assumptions were rendered wrong yet again. Pure comedy.
They understand megahertz, RAM, processor code names, and even the specific details of companies' tech roadmaps (mind-boggling.) What they don't understand are people. Know who understands people? Apple.
There is no brainwashing. Just products that manage to differentiate themselves in a sea of boring tech. When someone shows us that tech is just as much about art as it is about science and engineering, that takes it to a whole new level. And why shouldn't it. Apple treats tech like a gourmet meal. The presentation is just as important as the content. FINALLY.
Yes, you can be "geek" and cool, avant-garde, and one of the "crazy ones" at the same damn time. A geek made tech usable and desirable. Who woulda thunk it. So take heed, "internet geeks."
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i actually agree with u and i dont understand why everyone is laughing at u. u have no idea how many ppl buy apple headphones for their 30$ mp3 player just to make it seem like they own an iPod. just like those people buying expensive cars showing off or those housewives ladies and their fake lois vuitton handbags right with their wallmart clothes
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i actually agree with u and i dont understand why everyone is laughing at u. u have no idea how many ppl buy apple headphones for their 30$ mp3 player just to make it seem like they own an iPod. just like those people buying expensive cars showing off or those housewives ladies and their fake lois vuitton handbags right with their wallmart clothes
I think you may be exaggerating a little there. Not only did my father and mother pick up iPad2's (on separate occasions from different retailers) but my business partner walked into PC World (must have been around July) and picked up 2 of them. No waiting lists, no queues....its a myth, hype. Obviously the first month or so they will be hard to get, but after they get the production line up to full speed theres no problem getting one.
Back on to my original point, regardless if Samsung were to succeed, I'd still like to see them get the iPad 3 blocked just to put Apple in their place. Theres simply no need for blocking their competitors sales, its pathetic.
And what did an Android phone look like before the iPhone came out? As for the tired and VERY lame "censorship" argument, how's all that malware working out for you?