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Okay, so if I leave my phone somewhere and I get a text, and two friends see my phone got some notification, looks at the screen and tells me "hey! I think you got a text!" then I have to passcode unlock. This would not be a problem with Touch ID.
Just get the 8 or 8 Plus. Solves two problems you get Touch ID, and I get your iPhone X preorder slot.
 
Plausible enough.
But what will happen, if I'm on the subway, having a dozen people staring at my iPhone X. Does it pick his "owner" out and unlocks or do I have to type in my passcode in front of all those people.. :confused:
 
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When it hits the wild we will know if it's just markerting or if the system really works flawlessly. From Touch ID experience , wait for rev b or c

This statement only makes sense if you don't think it about it. Hope I don't have to explain why.
 
The demo is not relevant. And even after the event it was only apple employees that were set up for face id.

When it hits the wild we will know if it's just markerting or if the system really works flawlessly. From Touch ID experience , wait for rev b or c

They let Mark Gurman set up his face and play with it for a long time. Here it is go about two minutes in. Seems to work pretty well.
 
As it has been said, I will only try to unlock when eyes are looking at it. I can't think of a scenario where a crowd of people would be looking at my locked phone.

It doesn't need to be a crowd of people. It just needs to be one person looking at it twice.

That would be pretty easy if you were holding your phone on crowded public transport, or in a queue, or if you have kids, or if someone at work or at home or a friend out at dinner picks up your phone to move it, or confuses it for their own.

These are pretty common scenarios that happen to people fairly regularly - often enough that you will be prompted for a passcode far more often than you would with TouchID, and that is really the only comparison that matters here. Is this feature more or less convenient than what exists in their cheaper and older devices?

If it is equally as secure but less convenient then it is a fail. If it is more secure and less convenient then it is still a fail because no one has yet demonstrated TouchID to be an insufficient security measure - to the extent that Apple is still releasing the iPhone8 with it.

It has to be equally as secure and equally as convenient to be a step forward. At the moment it seems like a massive compromise in order to have no bezel on the bottom of the phone, and to avoid moving the TouchID to the rear.

It also comes at a minimum $300AUD premium so it doesn't seem like the additional cost is justified based on what has been presented so far by Apple and 3rd party Tech Journos.
 
Yeah he could've explained what happened and reset the clock instead he went with "ho ho ho" like he was Santa
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You can have my preorder slot

And everything in the world works perfectly every time and each and every one of us does and says the perfect thing at the perfect time bc Craig is subhuman and damn Apple shudda known.

Man shut up. God.

Thank god life still happens and things don't always meet our over-the-top expectations.

Make up your minds people. You b-itch and moan that Apple lacks innovation, then when they take a MAJOR step forward in an attempt at futuristic security or authentication it's seemingly obsessively looked at as flawed.

I'm a forward thinker and I'm really curious about how this technology will work. Being its first iteration me for one is not expecting perfection. Touch ID and Apple Pay for ME worked as advertised -- flawlessly handling hundreds of my transactions over the last year alone. Im ok that Touch ID was retired from the iPhone X. It would be lame to have had Face ID as a beta operating behind Touch ID. I think SAMESONG looks more idiotic than ever by just putting their cheap attempt at Face ID "let's beat Apple to the table" mentality with a system that's horribly and embarrassingly flawed with its lame ass fingerprint reader -- Whatever the circumstances of whether it was a tech problem or a engineering decision - eliminating Touch ID was the correct choice -- period. Redundancy is lame. Progress and innovation only can come from risks.
 
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TouchID gives be 5 attempts to use the correct finger, FaceID 2 attempts.
How quickly are those two attempts gathered and parsed, then resulting in pincode requirement? Is it a matter of seconds?
 
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And everything in the world works perfectly every time and each and every one of us does and says the perfect thing at the perfect time bc Craig is subhuman and damn Apple shudda known.

Man shut up. God.

Thank god life still happens and things don't always meet our over-the-top expectations.

Make up your minds people. You b-itch and moan that Apple lacks innovation, then when they take a MAJOR step forward in an attempt at futuristic security or authentication it's seemingly obsessively looked at as flawed.

I'm a forward thinker and I'm really curious about how this technology will work. Being its first iteration me for one is not expecting perfection. Touch ID and Apple Pay for ME worked as advertised -- flawlessly handling hundreds of my transactions over the last year alone. Im ok that Touch ID was retired from the iPhone X. It would be lame to have had Face ID as a beta operating behind Touch ID. Whatever the circumstances of whether it was a tech problem or a engineering decision - eliminating Touch ID was the correct choice -- period. Redundancy is lame. Progress and innovation only can come from risks.

It's true Steve jobs demo failed from wifi congestion where he told journalists to all shut off their laptops or there would be no demo.

That was a historic moment.

You're pretty dang rude telling me to shut up tho. Control your raw emotions bro.

Uncalled for!

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Scanning ones face is hardly What I call innovation. In your world maybe. But not in mine.

Removing Touch ID was a pretty controversial decision resulting in polarizing opinions. You can't possibly spin that, that everyone is on board with Face ID only especially launching a Touch ID model around the same time (8/8+? No?)

If they embed it in the display next year will you eat your words about "redundancy"?
 
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Good to know no one is jobless tonight (probably); not a firing blunder :D

But that is going to cost them. How much, who knows. Good save though :D
 
So what this means is if I am showing a funny text on my lockscreen to my friends... the phone is going to go into "require a passcode mode" after it gets passed around to 3 of my friends before it gets back to me?

If this were Touch ID, this wouldn't be an issue. I don't think each one of my friends would be "touching the home button" of my phone with each of their fingers. (sounds dirty)

While you are looking at the text and deciding to show it to your friends, your phone will already have identified you and unlocked... how often do you pick up your phone and show it to somone without looking at it to see what you are showing them?

Even if you do point your phone at them it’s only going to get one fail. It won’t try to reauthenticate unless you slide up to unlock or put the phone to sleep and wake it up... this is not going to be a huge problem.
 
So many people trolling. “What happens if I’m showing my phone off? What happens when I’m passing my phone round”

Well, it would either be unlocked, so no issue. But seriously, who lets others touch their phone? .....eeeewwwww
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So many people trolling. “What happens if I’m showing my phone off? What happens when I’m passing my phone round”

Well, it would either be unlocked, so no issue. But seriously, who lets others touch their phone? .....eeeewwwww

Also, you would just put your passcode. Same as you have to do now when your finger is wet/dirty etc. It’s not like you can’t get into the phone. Pmsl
 
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Apple will never admit that it failed (and in this case it did no matter how they spin it). This will go down in computer history next to the BSOD Bill Gates got while presenting Windows 98.

Zoom in on the video for yourself. If you have any experience with Touch ID you will instantly recognize the message that is on his screen. It says that you need to enter your passcode to enable faceID. That means that either A) the device was just booted up b) a failed number of attempts c) sos Mode was enabled... yes it’s embarrassing that Apple didn’t make sure faceID was enabled before the demo... but it didn’t fail. It was disabled. The proof is right on screen.
 
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They let Mark Gurman set up his face and play with it for a long time. Here it is go about two minutes in. Seems to work pretty well.
Well the FaceID worked just great. Fast, responsive, won't have any trouble adapting to it in 24 to 48 hours.

Looks like all the detractors will have to go hide again till next year. Buy guys, see you next year.
 
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