Apple Says iOS 11 is Now Installed on 59% of Devices

[deanthedev]

And the part about copying Google's methods?

Using the metric of visits to The App Store.
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Source

Android Oreo is at 0.3% according to Google as of Nov 9th.

https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html

Android is a complete and utter joke when it comes to updates.
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Then why don't they prove it by enabling it or are they scared that here chart would get fragmented?

Logical fallacy. If Apple doesn’t do something you think they should it’s because they’re hiding something? Asinine.
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I stopped reading here. Percents mean nothing without knowing the sample pool. For all we know it might be iOS device sold in the last six months. There is no context so the info is as believable as. trump tweet.

The context is there. It’s iOS devices that visited The App Store. Something you might have learned had you continued reading.

Or how it’s actually Google that games their numbers to hide their ridiculously bad fragmentation.
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It's too bad version numbers are immaterial on Android as are OS updates.

Absolutely false. More BS spread by the Android crowd to try and downplay the fragmentation and horrid update process, leaving the vast majority of Android users on an unpatched OS.

 

[barkomatic]

That's no surprise since iOS 11 has got to be the buggiest mess of a release ever. Although it now runs fine on my iPhone X, it made my iPhone 6s Plus a horrible laggy mess -- and I setup as a new device three times.

I really do think Apple deliberately makes iPhones more than 2 years old a bad user experience so they'll be more likely to upgrade. It used to be Apple relied on the old carrier contracts to make people upgrade and they didn't need to cripple their hardware but those days are gone. If someone pays $1000 or more for an iPhone they are gonna hang on to it otherwise.

 

[EVGabe]

I’ve yet to have a single issue with iOS 11. I’m running it on an iPhone 8 Plus, a 2nd Generation iPad Pro, and an iPhone SE, and all are performing wonderfully.

 

[I7guy]

Wow, that is one of the slowest adoptions ever, regardless of the alternative facts and Trumped up spin Apple will give with their next keynote speech. I am sure they will claim 11 was the fastest adopted iOS version, along with most stable, most secure and with the happiest customer base ever!!!!

Tim Cook is going to have to put on some very thick rose colored glasses for the next keynote as he has a LOT of problems he has to try to ignore and gloss over to say anything positive about the companies performance. Sales are great, but when the companies reputation seems to be slowly eroding and people are actually holding off upgrading to iOS 11 like this, it is obvious Apple has taken a hit in customer satisfaction this year. You can't maintain strong sales if your quality and reputation starts to degrade over time.

Most likely he will talk about Emoji for 45 minutes to hide behind the companies lack of capability in offering a successful product launch this year.

Who said apple’s reputation is eroding? Correlation does not prove causation.

Maybe a few forum members feel apple’s reputation is eroding sure. But ultimately sales tell the real story.
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If Google and Microsoft can provide security patches for multiple versions of Android and Windows and still not make them buggy, it should be child's play for a behemoth like Apple.

Who said windows patches weren’t weren’t buggy? Remember the dhcp mess?

 

[deanthedev]

I’ve yet to have a single issue with iOS 11. I’m running it on an iPhone 8 Plus, a 2nd Generation iPad Pro, and an iPhone SE, and all are performing wonderfully.

I have iOS 11 on 7 devices since day one.

I’ve noticed a few glitches. After rotating the screen I’ve seen alignment issues with content. A few Apps would occasionally display something wrong. Sometimes there’s a short pause when I tap the screen. All very minor stuff.

On the flip side, all the Apps I rely on for work still functioned properly (as did all my personal Apps). My iPhone still worked fine and none of the issues I saw had any impact on my usage or caused me any difficulties. I’m assuming the same goes for my wife and kids, as they all come running to me whenever they have any sort of problem.

So basically the same things I’ve experienced with previous iOS updates, Android updates, Mac OS updates and Windows updates. Nothing new here, yet people want to proclaim iOS 11 as the “worst ever”.

 

[MistrSynistr]

If you haven't already DO NOT upgrade to this. Even 11.2 breaks things like autofocus on your camera.

 

[urtules]

i was feeling bad i didn't upgrade yet but after reading the comments here i feel i am lucky... won't upgrade

Don't listen to comments, update.

 

[Tozovac]

"Chinese finger trap update routine"... I love it. You phrased it perfectly.

My wife (Chinese, coincidentally ) is pissed after the update notification that she fell for. She's having issues with her SE now that she confusedly hit the wrong button during a recent nag popup - she's no tech nerd and I imagine her contribution to the 59% was as innocent and ignorant as much of the rest of them. My 7 is running perfectly fine on 10.3.3 and considering my 6-7 hours/day using the Podcast app, I'm in no hurry to change that.

I’m finding that the Overcast app for podcasts is much, much better than any iOS podcast app to date. Less fluff, a little more intuitive, a few additional features, easier to tag episodes for deletion or saving, etc. While Apple’s keeping busy focusing on making things look a certain way, third-party developers are learning how to work within Apple’s awful iOS 7-11 UI and out-designing Apple.

 

[Polpol1]

Still regret updating to iOS 11 every day: battery life is still horrible on 11.2. Have to charge my 6S at noon every day otherwise I hardly make it to the evening. Contacted Apple Support who says nothing is wrong with my battery. They asked me to do a recovery with iTunes, which I did. Besides having to reauthorise my bank-applications after the recovery which cost me some time there is no result.
Really disappointing. Maybe Apple should find other ways to make the users of a 2 year old iPhone buy a new one other than to ruin their old devices with these crappy "updates"

 

[imasterus]

My iPhone 4 is on iOS 7 Who knew that iPhone 4 would be so viable and spoil Apple statistics?

 

[drewyboy]

and the reason why that number is not higher is simply because older devices can not run iOS 11.

No. It's because iOS11 is horribly buggy. Unless you meant that devices that "can" still can't then yes. My 3 iOS devices at home have been setup to block the iOS11 update.

 

[6803390]

Or just don’t use crappy, outdated apps that developers refuse to update.

What do you mean crappy apps? I found them useful until I updated to iOS 11. However, I do agree, why should we support those developers who knew in advance this was going to happen. I am quite annoyed that I am unable to use them. I have lost around 100 apps!
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Seems like 11.2 is really what 11.0 should have been.
My 6S+ has finally settled down. "Seems" good now. Prior to this it felt bad. Can't put finger on it.
Battery life was erratic and poor. I think the calculator bug is a big clue to something stupid under the hood.

It’s still not as smooth as when it was on iOS 10.x
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After putting up with a half-baked iOS 11, I can say with 100% certainty that I will absolutely not upgrade to iOS 12 next year until it has been out at least 6 months. Not a threat, not a joke, I'm not putting up with this kind of crappy product again.

I keep saying the exact same thing that I will not update until Christmas but guess what? I update it as soon as it is released lol

 

[neutralguy]

In another news Apple said 59% people have started swearing at their iPhones on daily basis.
[doublepost=1512577355][/doublepost]In another news Apple said 59% people have started swearing at their iPhones on daily basis.

 

[827538]

For me this started with iOS 11. It also takes quite some time till my keyboard shows up when I access messages.

Sorry I phrased my post wrong - mine started with iOS 11 too. Yeh the keyboard not popping up or taking forever is a constant bugbear for me in iOS 11. Laggy apps, poor performance when switching. I feel like my phone aged drastically over one update.

If they had included big functional improvements then it would be a worthwhile trade off, but really, nothing stands out for me. Except when I say 'Hey Siri.....' it just ignores my question/action and I have to click the Siri button.

I don't dislike iOS but I'm not happy with iOS 11.
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There's going to be people next year which say iOS 12 is bad and how iOS 11 is great, this repeats every year.

I'm not saying its bad, I've used every iPhone since the 3GS, and every iOS update. But iOS 11 is really straining my 6S, this isn't subjective, it's quite easy to see.

Laggy app switching, laggy orientation, laggy keyboard. It's easy to see in a video. I was hoping 11.2 would smooth out these complaints but no luck yet.

 

[zachcsnyder]

In other news, 59% of users are reporting horrible stability and an abundance of bugs

 

[jimbobb24]

iOS 11 is the worst I have used. More pauses. More crashes. More just what is going on delays.

 

[travelsheep]

Things I would like to see in iOS:

- block Anonymous callers
- be able to manage contact groups

Two things missing since... always.

 

[6803390]

Things I would like to see in iOS:

- block Anonymous callers
- be able to manage contact groups

Two things missing since... always.

That’s a really good suggestion regarding anonymous callers or at least put them on silent

 

[Radon87000]

Logical fallacy. If Apple doesn’t do something you think they should it’s because they’re hiding something? Asinine.

Why are those update prompts shoved in my face every week despite deleting the update from storage every week. I need to install a TVOs profile to stop it. Once the device is upgraded and there is slowdown, no way to bring it back to its original performance. This is something Microsoft and Google allow. The fact Apple doesn't despite having equally bug infested releases shows Apple knows that if downgrade support is enabled their chart would become equally fragmented.

The context is there. It’s iOS devices that visited The App Store. Something you might have learned had you continued reading.

Or how it’s actually Google that games their numbers to hide their ridiculously bad fragmentation.
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Absolutely false. More BS spread by the Android crowd to try and downplay the fragmentation and horrid update process, leaving the vast majority of Android users on an unpatched OS.

Android encourages fragmentation and I applaud them for it. Google supports fragmentation on their Pixel phones which get constant updates like iPhone. They don't trap users on the newest Android version.

On Android all the core apps are updated through the Play Store. Security updates are issued through Google Play Services API and so are the APIs for all apps. If everyone cared about updates on Android, Pixel would be the top seller but its not.

Who said apple’s reputation is eroding? Correlation does not prove causation.

Maybe a few forum members feel apple’s reputation is eroding sure. But ultimately sales tell the real story.
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Who said windows patches weren’t weren’t buggy? Remember the dhcp mess?

That was also on Windows 10. Point being made is that issuing updates for older versions doesnt have to necessarily break them

 

[mi7chy]

59% disgruntled rate is low for iOS 11 but everyone should know by now that it doesn't become stable until x.3 release. Better to stay on 10.3 until 11.3 becomes available unless you enjoy frequent downtime of updating and rebooting phone with new bugs introduced. For older devices updating means a painful experience and a trip to the store to buy a new model.

 

[User 6502]

A release without any new features, full of bugs and that slows down not-so-old devices is slowly adopted. I am shocked…

 

[I7guy]

Why are those update prompts shoved in my face every week despite deleting the update from storage every week. I need to install a TVOs profile to stop it. Once the device is upgraded and there is slowdown, no way to bring it back to its original performance. This is something Microsoft and Google allow. The fact Apple doesn't despite having equally bug infested releases shows Apple knows that if downgrade support is enabled their chart would become equally fragmented.



Android encourages fragmentation and I applaud them for it. Google supports fragmentation on their Pixel phones which get constant updates like iPhone. They don't trap users on the newest Android version.

On Android all the core apps are updated through the Play Store. Security updates are issued through Google Play Services API and so are the APIs for all apps. If everyone cared about updates on Android, Pixel would be the top seller but its not.


That was also on Windows 10. Point being made is that issuing updates for older versions doesnt have to necessarily break them

The version of Windows wasn’t qualified. Point is updated can and do break software. All of a sudden fragmentation is a good thing, except on iOS.

 

[Nixir]

Why are those update prompts shoved in my face every week despite deleting the update from storage every week. I need to install a TVOs profile to stop it. Once the device is upgraded and there is slowdown, no way to bring it back to its original performance. This is something Microsoft and Google allow. The fact Apple doesn't despite having equally bug infested releases shows Apple knows that if downgrade support is enabled their chart would become equally fragmented.



Android encourages fragmentation and I applaud them for it. Google supports fragmentation on their Pixel phones which get constant updates like iPhone. They don't trap users on the newest Android version.

On Android all the core apps are updated through the Play Store. Security updates are issued through Google Play Services API and so are the APIs for all apps. If everyone cared about updates on Android, Pixel would be the top seller but its not.


That was also on Windows 10. Point being made is that issuing updates for older versions doesnt have to necessarily break them

I took up Android development this past year due to work (with the fast growth of Android and from looking around the industry, more and more companies will focus on developing for Android moving forward). I got to play around with a variety of Android phones, and Google is absolutely the better software engineering company. Stock Android is a joy to use, apps and webpages load faster, constant 60FPS in all UI elements, I believe Android have long surpassed iOS in performance. Apple have the best processors but iOS needs a lot of work.

 

[deanthedev]

Android encourages fragmentation and I applaud them for it. Google supports fragmentation on their Pixel phones which get constant updates like iPhone. They don't trap users on the newest Android version.

Google encourages fragmentation? Thanks for the laugh. I guess that’s why Google has been investing heavily into eliminating fragmentation for years (trying and failing with Google Play Services and now trying again with Project Treble). I find it hilarious Google wastes money on all these “non-existent” problems you pretend don’t exist.

On Android all the core apps are updated through the Play Store. Security updates are issued through Google Play Services API and so are the APIs for all apps. If everyone cared about updates on Android, Pixel would be the top seller but its not.

Complete rubbish. Google Play Services is EXTREMELY limited in what it can update. For example, all the major security flaws in Android are in low-level portions that Google Play Services can’t patch. That’s why they are listed by Google under AOSP. Which means OEMs have to download AOSP, incorporate the changes, perform verification and testing, and finally make an update available to devices. This is the reason older devices never get updated: A) Google Play Services can’t do security updates and B) it’s too much work/expense for OEMs to download AOSP and release updates.

In addition, not all new features in Android are through Google Play Services. Can you even name which features in Oreo are from Google Play Services and which require you to actually install Oreo?

 

[5105973]

Oh jeez this is not good. I just came back from a school event and there are several parents on iPhone 6s, 6, 6 Plus and they are livid and bewildered that they accepted an iOS update that has made their phones very difficult to use. Their touch screens are lagging and different people are experiencing different problems. This is your average customer experience, not people obsessing over iPhones on a forum. These are the people who go to their carrier or Apple store and purchase and expect an Apple product, especially an iPhone to “just work.” They don’t get iPhones to show them off or talk about them or because they love technology or design. They bought on trust and reputation. They’re saying they’ve never seen an update that rendered their phones almost unusable.

I’m on a 7 Plus and an X not on the latest update yet. I’m doing fine. I guess the problems are for phones before the 7 ????