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Apple Says iOS 8.0.2 Update is in the Works, Directs Users to Reinstall iOS 8

xVeinx said:
Because you know they weren't worked to point of exhaustion up until the release of iOS 8...


:rolleyes:
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Hey, the Foxconn workers are worked 3x as hard on less sleep and food, and the phones aren't BRICKED because of the hardware.

Those programmers need to be outsourced, seems Apple is hiring leftovers who couldn't latch on to a startup and had to settle.

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33man said:
AMEN TO THAT!!!

nobody will bring his car to upgrade engine the day he has important meetings around the city... Why not keeping same thinking methodology for the phone?
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He wouldn't be able to get around the city then.

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John.B said:
That's not what I said, don't put words in my mouth.

I said don't update your phone at 8AM if you need it that day and don't have any way to revert back.

Or not. It's no skin off my butt if your phone is bricked because you rushed to apply an update while you were at work, and now your kid's babysitter can't reach you.
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okay, we're done. you win buddy. we're all wrong.
 
I would just like to point out that the actual update seems to have nothing wrong with it, considering updating from iTunes didn't cause any problems. Something weird just happened OTA.
 
iChrist said:
Hey, the Foxconn workers are worked 3x as hard on less sleep and food, and the phones aren't BRICKED because of the hardware.

Those programmers need to be outsourced, seems Apple is hiring leftovers who couldn't latch on to a startup and had to settle.
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If you think Chinese factory workers work harder than programmers, you're seriously mistaken.
 
iChrist said:
Hey, the Foxconn workers are worked 3x as hard on less sleep and food, and the phones aren't BRICKED because of the hardware.

Those programmers need to be outsourced, seems Apple is hiring leftovers who couldn't latch on to a startup and had to settle.
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Foxconn workers are likely not doing any kind of complex conceptual work. It's well established that it's not the kind of work you want to do when excessively tired unless you are ready to clean up the mess afterwards.

Outsourcing might get you cheaper developers, but quality is another matter and I doubt Apple is willing to compromise on quality of its software, not to mention the loss of control.
 
76ShovelHead said:
I'm beginning to think product evaluation is an afterthought with their development team...
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I'm pretty sure half of them were playing with watches this year and "oohing and ahhing" at the (mediocre) iWatch instead of the now secondary iPhones... I mean so much of the new iPhone just seems to be about what they think people want rather than what they actually want and practically there are issues that should have come up in testing...

"Thinness" is great and all that, but not when the camera has to stick out or when people are begging for more battery life. Moving the power button to the side when the top was still fine made some sense until you put it opposite the volume switches so now you're always accidentally hitting them together as your hand naturally tries to oppose the force of the press on the opposite side - something that should have been picked up in early hands-on testing...

The whole bending thing, were they really in that much of a bubble when initial concerns about the iPhone 5 came out that "making it thinner" somehow didn't set alarm bells ringing - it's probably a minor issue but we won't know for a while, what it has done is give them terrible, front page press in many places (yes, it was the Daily Mail's top story on their site yesterday!)

The software features - well nearly all the new "innovations" don't actually work yet, that's absolutely terrible from Apple, Pay (as well as being US-centric) doesn't, the health app doesn't, iCloud drive doesn't. It's all a bit of a shambles and seems like we've been given the product 6 months early. And now this stupid, literally stupid update - WTF is going on!?



That said, my iPhone 6 works fine, didn't do the update. :D I'm happy enough with it despite the rant, but I know it could have been so much better, I was already on the fence before getting the 6, now I will probably make the leap to Android next upgrade, the competition is ever-improving and the freedom from iTunes (PC version at least) would be liberating...
 
This was released to carriers to test out prior to giving it the call clear, they should of told apple not to release it, mainly cause it has such a massive bug, thank goodness it was 3am in the morning til 4:15 or else I would of been in the same situation as a few users
 
Seandroid said:
I would just like to point out that the actual update seems to have nothing wrong with it, considering updating from iTunes didn't cause any problems. Something weird just happened OTA.
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Only OTA updates, and only for the iPhone 6 or 6 Plus. Probably something in the way the OTA update was packaged (which applies only the changes needed vs. the full release on iTunes). They probably included the wrong files for the new phones and that never got tested. According to what was in the release notes, they included fixes to HealthKit, and may have been in such a rush that they skipped parts of the normal testing process. Usually, the updates go to app developers first so they can test their own apps against the new code, and we know that didn't happen in this case.

What amazed me is that it took more than an hour and twenty minutes to actually pull the update from Software Update, despite being notified almost immediately that it was killing cellular data and voice on the new iPhones for people on various carriers in various countries (Verizon, AT&T, EE, Three, etc.)

Apple4everr said:
This was released to carriers to test out prior to giving it the call clear, they should of told apple not to release it, mainly cause it has such a massive bug, thank goodness it was 3am in the morning til 4:15 or else I would of been in the same situation as a few users
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If the carriers saw this release I'd bet money it was only the full iTunes release, not the OTA release.
 
Apple: lacking proper QC since... forever.

I mean seriously, for a company of this size this kind of crap is inexcusable.

Hire 20 people to rigorously QC new software releases. Let them attempt to break it. After that passes QC, pilot it by forcing it on everyone's workstations/devices in-house (I know they currently use a lot of windows). Fix problems, repeat. After that settles for a week without bugs, release to the wild. Simple!

The latter half of this is actively listening to your feedback channels for potential missed issues. Apple seems terrible at this -- the community ALWAYS finds these bugs at large first, and then Apple slowly fixes them over the course of weeks to months. The turn around is usually unacceptable, except for major loss of function bugs (like this release).
 
My health app appears to still be working

Contrary to the Apple support document health won't function, mine appears to be working and tracking my steps etc and data there for the past week or so thank god.

Something has gone wrong though as I've now got 2 data sources iPhone 6 plus and health itself.

Anyone have issues with Health not working after restoring back to iOS 8.0.0?
 
irnchriz said:
I wonder how many people updated? I only manually checked for an update after reading that 8.0.1 was out. Not one of my devices notified me of a new update. Anyway, I guess I'm lucky that 8.0.1 worked fine on my Plus OTA, I wonder if it was a certain setup/configuration that caused the issue. I guess we will never know.

Apple, Samsung and Microsoft have all done this before. Apple with iOS 7.0.6, Samsung with the Note ICS update and Microsoft with the WP7 Omnia update. I don't expect this to be the last case of borked firmware.
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It's apples weak point. As all phones run the same hardware and os, if they make a mess of it that's everyone that gets the bug. It's thankfully the strong point too that they can yank it and fix everyone's phone with an update.

1 hour is pretty quick to take it down, let's just hope they never break OTA updates. So many people forego the computer with iTunes part.

It's a school boy error but not exactly unique. I'm just confused as to how there has been a string of them recently. Health kit, then this and also half the functionality of ios missing because of Yosemite. Currently there aren't that many reasons to even be on ios8.

Continuity is my favourite feature that's missing.
 
darkplanets said:
Apple: lacking proper QC since... forever.

I mean seriously, for a company of this size this kind of crap is inexcusable.

Hire 20 people to rigorously QC new software releases. Let them attempt to break it. After that passes QC, pilot it by forcing it on everyone's workstations/devices in-house (I know they currently use a lot of windows). Fix problems, repeat. After that settles for a week without bugs, release to the wild. Simple!

The latter half of this is actively listening to your feedback channels for potential missed issues. Apple seems terrible at this -- the community ALWAYS finds these bugs at large first, and then Apple slowly fixes them over the course of weeks to months. The turn around is usually unacceptable, except for major loss of function bugs (like this release).
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The update will have been in development while the iPhone 6 was unreleased. You can't QC something effectively under such tight NDA agreements. I would have preferred Apple to get it right but their own desperation for privacy is working to thwart them.
 
John.B said:
That's not what I said, don't put words in my mouth.

I said don't update your phone at 8AM if you need it that day and don't have any way to revert back.

Or not. It's no skin off my butt if your phone is bricked because you rushed to apply an update while you were at work, and now your kid's babysitter can't reach you.
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Yeah what kind of mouth-breather retard updates his phone and then whines about losing cellular? NEVER apply an update if you'll be using the phone in the next few days or week or whatever! These are probably the same arse clowns who put their expensive iPhone in a pocket and then whine like little babies when it bends.

It's simple: if you need to use your phone and an update breaks it, then it's your fault for breaking a phone you needed to use.

/snark

Seriously, WTF is up at Apple? Did they hemorrhage talent a while back or is this just Cook failing to tamp down the bozo eruptions?
 
Dave Felix said:
What do you mean why would people apply a patch if they needed their smartphone for something important the next day? Probably because the current iOS they have is buggy and they (as the rest of consumers) thought it would fix something but instead caused more problems. Some of you guys are biased as **** man, seriously.

And why the **** would the patch be there if it causes another issue? Does Apple pay you?
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i agree with you, why the **** would apple release update when you tell people don't update it until you don't have any **** to do. even if i don't have any business or anything important, but i need a ****ing phone that work i can call/receive phone call
 
TheChallinor said:
Contrary to the Apple support document health won't function, mine appears to be working and tracking my steps etc and data there for the past week or so thank god.
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The HealthKit app does work. What doesn't work yet is apps that integrate with HealthKit were kept off the App Store because of issues with the integration.
 
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