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Pat, a video isn't a static image. Just because an OLED panel can experience burn in, doesn't mean it will experience burn in. I've had an S2, S5, I currently have an S7 and my wife has an S8. Guess which one had the burn in? None. Anecdotal, of course, but none of them had burn in cuz none were sitting on static images using high brightness, high contrast for hours on end. Primarily because that's not how people use phones. Unless you are going to be renting your X to a retail store for display, I'm pretty sure you won't be doing that either.:D

You are going to notice image retention/burn-in on the iPhone X with iOS 11, look at that slim bar that indicates the home button gesture, how about the battery indicator with the WiFi/Cell service and associating slim line indicator below it. The clock may experience minor retention/burn-in, or maybe just the separator and AM/PM indicator.

How about those navigation buttons, outlines, etc, may not be an issue with those semi-adaptive elements, however for a 1K priced phone, even keeping it for 1-2 years I would except nothing but the best. Had this phone cost 700-800, I would overlook these shortcomings.

Resale value, it was nice knowing you. :p:D
 
Tell me.. when do people use high brightness or high contrast? Lol at renting to x for display...haha

I have my iPhone cranked up to maximum brightness for many continuous hours when I use Waze or Navigon on trips, otherwise I can't see the screen in daylight with my sunglasses on. I imagine map app developers will need to adjust their coding to eliminate areas of static UI display to avoid burn-in issues.
 
I don't get the OLED hype. It's fundamentally a great and promising technology, but I feel that it's not yet quite "there". LCDs have gotten really good now, and while OLED has a lot of advantages it also has a lot of major disadvantages (like burn-in, of axis color change, visible flickering for some of them, invisible (to the eye) flickering on most of them...), many of which were issues on LCDs a long time ago. I'd happily get an iPhone X with an LCD display and not worry about burn-in.
 
I have my iPhone cranked up to maximum brightness for many continuous hours when I use Waze or Navigon on trips, otherwise I can't see the screen in daylight with my sunglasses on. I imagine map app developers will need to adjust their coding to eliminate areas of static UI display to avoid burn-in issues.
So developers have to do more work to overcome Apple’s and its users decision for an AMOLED screen. I hope Apple shifts the pixel elements back and forth rapidly to avoid image burn-in, I remember this was incorporated a while ago, as LCD may also suffer due to static elements such as the status bar, etc.
 
Present micro LED/LCD is approximately the display size of the AW, and to my knowledge does not suffer image retention/burn-in or colour shifting. It takes the best of LCD/LED and OLED into a singular package.
Thanks, it's been a while since I last read about microLED and I wasn't sure. Maybe eventually Apple will use mLED for future iPhones. I have a feeling that's the plan and OLED is just temporary (for a couple of years).
 
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I guess this means that it's a bad idea to leave Google Maps running with the screen on in a cradle for hours during road trips? I do this often. :(

It tends to be at full brightness too, when driving during the day.
 
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this is a non issue for 99% of us.

Either you have poor eyesight, or you do not care about resale value due to the iUP or your sight is deteriorating and you would not notice it on any screen, at which point the brightness is the same as the iPhone 7 and 8, the contrast is the biggest change.

IPhone series 2 will have double the brightness and that will make the iPhone X look dim.
 
I have my iPhone cranked up to maximum brightness for many continuous hours when I use Waze or Navigon on trips, otherwise I can't see the screen in daylight with my sunglasses on. I imagine map app developers will need to adjust their coding to eliminate areas of static UI display to avoid burn-in issues.
Seems like the dev might have too..
 
I guess this means that it's a bad idea to leave Google Maps running with the screen on in a cradle for hours during road trips? I do this often. :(

It tends to be at full brightness too, when driving during the day.

Best 1K you have spent to date :p:D
 
Funny that my Nexus 6, with it's AMOLED 1440 x 2560 even after a few years has zero burn in of anything,and very very little colour shift when viewed off axis.
How come my 3? year old phone seems better than a brand new one ?
 
Sorry but LCD is the past.

Not quite yet. Micro LED may be the future but I expect display panel prices to rival or exceed AMOLED initially. A simple screen replacement on the iPhone X is $280. We are likely three or four years away from future display tech that can be cost competitive with LCD. Apple is going to need something new in the $650 - $700 price range next year to replace the huge bezeled iPhone 8. LCD is pretty much the only way they are going to be able to achieve that, and the full active LCD panels made by Japan Display would allow minimal bezels at a reasonable cost.
 
Funny that my Nexus 6, with it's AMOLED 1440 x 2560 even after a few years has zero burn in of anything,and very very little colour shift when viewed off axis.
How come my 3? year old phone seems better than a brand new one ?

IOS and Android OS, use pixel shifting, it moves elements on screen back and forth between three pixels in rapid frequency, human eyesight cannot observe it with the naked eye. We see static text, however its moving between three pixels and this eliminates majority of the concerns with retention. With an AMOLED screen if the text is bright this will take a minor hit to its battery life, Samsung’s alway-on incorporates pixel shifting.
 
Either you have poor eyesight, or you do not care about resale value due to the iUP or your sight is deteriorating and you would not notice it on any screen, at which point the brightness is the same as the iPhone 7 and 8, the contrast is the biggest change.

IPhone series 2 will have double the brightness and that will make the iPhone X look dim.

Wait.. What? If you need eagle like sight to see burn in, it is not an issue..

Plasma displays were some of the worst offenders for burn in. They resolved that by using software management. Same as Apple has claimed to have done. My plasma is at least 8 years old and is perfect. Made by Samsung btw.. People who use their devices normally won't have an issue. If you have the display set to sun, and you have a sharp image on multiple hours at a time, you may see an issue.
 
Present micro LED/LCD is approximately the display size of the AW, and to my knowledge does not suffer image retention/burn-in or colour shifting. It takes the best of LCD/LED and OLED into a singular package.
Uh code... don't take this the wrong way but, uh do you know what @dampfnudel is asking? I ask because the explanation you gave has nothing to do with mLED.

mLED does have (reportedly) less of a chance for burn in but not because of anything you said. It's because of the uniformity of the lifespan of mLED elements. Color shifting of mLED is going to be highly dependent on the cover glass.
 
Man. This is a huge letdown. Even with truetone turned off the display just straight up looks bad next to my iPhone 6.
 
well I know people who owned Samsung phones for years (with OLED display) and even if there was some burn in it wasn't noticeable / problematic at all.so I wouldn't worry.same goes for any slight shift in colour in angle.(if that's even noticeable)

all I can say is,I just got the iPhone X and immediately it's evident how much superior OLED screen is compared to even 7 Plus which had one of the best LCD displays.

I played a video on youtube simultaneously on both X and 7 Plus and 7 Plus was instantly and visibly defeated by much more rich and higher quality of the OLED on iPhone X.

The blacks on 7 Plus look like a joke compared to blacks on OLED of X.blacks look dark-grey-greeenish on 7 Plus whereas on X they are beautiful pitch black.
as it should be.

OLED is simply superior display tech.and everything looks noticeably better.no matter what.
"I desperately want to feel better about OLED despite the fact that there are glaring issues that make it in some ways worse than LCDs"
 
Funny that they waited until after launch day sales were racked up before they tell us this

So true, schmucks. :D

"Oh, buy the way, that really weird thing with the screen? that's totally normal"

But what do you expect? I'd do the same thing......on second thought, I wouldn't have the heart
 
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Best 1K you have spent to date :p:D
Hah, nope. I'm not due for an upgrade until next year.

But I'm thinking forward to the day when Apple moves entirely to OLED for all their phones. Burn-in is not something I want to have to worry about. It was bad enough with CRTs and plasma TVs back in the day!
 
Wait.. What? If you need eagle like sight to see burn in, it is not an issue..

Plasma displays were some of the worst offenders for burn in. They resolved that by using software management. Same as Apple has claimed to have done. My plasma is at least 8 years old and is perfect. Made by Samsung btw.. People who use their devices normally won't have an issue. If you have the display set to sun, and you have a sharp image on multiple hours at a time, you may see an issue.
Lol, how did you obtain that one require hawk/eagle vision to see burn-in and image retention along with colour shifting. Either your eyes are deteriorating from normal that wearing prescription eyewear may make the shortcomings evident ;):p:D
 
I find it somewhat funny that the biggest complaint I've heard on these boards over the past couple of years is no OLED. Now that everyone got their wish, everyone is going crazy.
 
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