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Right, that's a good tool... you burn in the rest of the screen to match what was burned in.



Tackling? I wouldn't exactly call it tackling. They are telling customers not to complain about the display if it has problems, because its normal... i.e., "you are looking at it wrong".



Waze gives you your speed, among other things. After CarPlay for a year or so, I'm enjoying the switch to Android Auto in all aspects except one... you can't take over using the phone like you can with CarPlay.
I know waze does but I'm comparing apple maps to Google. I do tend to use Google maps.
 
It's way overblown. You'll be fine. The Apple watch uses an OLED panel and I bet those have more static images and nobody complained in mass about it.

I have an Apple Watch, and when I switched to the new Siri watch face, I noticed that the numbers on my old analog watch face were burned in. It's been weeks and the burn-in is still there. I have the original Apple Watch. Will hurt resale value, but I've gotten used to ignoring it....
 
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Let try again. Define normally. People will watch videos with that thing. Maybe apple should tell you that you’re user experience is wrong.
A video is not a static image so it will fall under normal conditions. Staring at an image for 3 hours is not a normal condition which will cause burn in specially if the contrast is high.
 
I have an Apple Watch, and when I switched to the new Siri watch face, I noticed that the numbers on my old analog watch face were burned in. It's been weeks and the burn-in is still there. I have the original Apple Watch. Will hurt resale value, but I've gotten used to ignoring it....
I had the series 2 and never had any issues. Yes you'll have it but it's nowhere where as overblown as this burn in for the phone we are seeing now.
 
It does, it’s pretty much the same screen. It hasn’t been a problem for Samsung because :
  • It isn’t actually much of a problem; and
  • Samsung isn’t held to the same standards or expectations as an Apple product.

I came from 10 years of Apple products, so I too have high expectations. My Note 8 has no burn-in and is easily on-par quality-wise with my former ip7+.
 
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Can't certain images fix burn-in? I have a mode on my OLED TV that clears any burn-in or color changes on the panel. Not sure if they're the same types of OLED tech...


what that mode is doing is burning the rest of the screen to match the other degraded LEDs


youll find apps in the playstore that do the same thing, you'll find them in the appstore soon.
 
Here's hoping Apple has a full active LCD screen available next year. AMOLED offers great viewing quality but goes way beyond what I require on a phone. The likelihood of burn in is even more reason to go with something else. Give me something with a similar small-bezel design and I'll be satisfied regardless of the screen tech. Bonus points if it replaces the iPhone 8 at a $700 price point.
 
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This is just the beginning... wait til other issues start hitting in the next week or so...there are always problems with first gen devices... I see lots of used like new "refurbished" in the near future
 
Here's hoping Apple has a full active LCD screen available next year. AMOLED offers great viewing quality but goes way beyond what I require on a phone. The likelihood of burn in is even more reason to go with something else. Give me something with a similar small-bezel design and I'll be satisfied regardless of the screen tech. Bonus points if it replaces the iPhone 8 at a $700 price point.
Sorry but LCD is the past.
 
And people complained that it took so long for Apple to switch to OLED. Imagine the problems if they switched earlier while OLED problems with retention where higher, color accuracy was lower, and inconsistent color was more of an issue.

Apple users are a truly picky bunch (for good reasons at the prices paid), so I am not surprised to see outrage over what is the norm for this type of Tech. At least they didn't buy LG panels for this round.



FWIW you mean Pixel 2 XL.


Apple has mentioned years ago that it did not adopt AMOLED technology sooner due to its shortcomings, as noted by Apple presently. During the Sep 2017 Keynote, it came across that Apple resolved any of those shortcomings previously restricting them from adopting AMOLED.

Today we get the truth that, some of those shortcomings are still present, not sure why Apple just didn’t bother to just adopt micro LED/LCD technology instead. Granted it may not be available for the iPhone X size, however there was nothing wrong with the present LCD technology.

So we get true blacks with the AMOLED, this was a given. The trade-off is that anything other than shades (dark) will consume more battery power to light up those pixels. Plus colour shifting and image retention/burn-in, this does not seem like a display upgrade.

Once the initial joy of owning the iPhone X, wears off after a few weeks and colour shift/image retention/burn-in becomes obvious, consumers will doubt themselves as to why they spent 1K on a devices that Apple considers “normal behaviour.”

I am still sporting an iPhone 7, the 8 did not entice me as the X, and after hearing Apple admitting to these shortcomings, I had cancelled my X orders. If the phone was 700-800 USD, I could possibly oversee the shortcomings. However the biggest part of a smartphone is the display that you look/stare at when interacting with it, and the display should be of the highest caliber considering the Apple Tax as you mentioned.

Knowing very well of the limitations of AMOLED, I figured Apple found a solution hence it was taking its time. Today I find out that there was no solution and we keep receiving this double talk from Apple relating to technology that competitors have provided they customers for years.

The Apple Watch screen uses OLED, even if it suffers from colour shift/image retention/burn-in the screen is way too small to notice even with the best vision. Plus this is the reason why Apple places the AW display to sleep when not looking at it and states it is to conserve battery life (which may be partially true), however we have the Samsung Galaxy 7/8/Note that have the alway-on feature for its date and time display on a bigger AMOLED screen with a minor 1-3% battery consumption per day. Are we to believe that Apple cannot incorporate the same feature/function.

This from a billion dollar company, embarrassing. :confused:o_O
 
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well I know people who owned Samsung phones for years (with OLED display) and even if there was some burn in it wasn't noticeable / problematic at all.so I wouldn't worry.same goes for any slight shift in colour in angle.(if that's even noticeable)

all I can say is,I just got the iPhone X and immediately it's evident how much superior OLED screen is compared to even 7 Plus which had one of the best LCD displays.

I played a video on youtube simultaneously on both X and 7 Plus and 7 Plus was instantly and visibly defeated by much more rich and higher quality of the OLED on iPhone X.

The blacks on 7 Plus look like a joke compared to blacks on OLED of X.blacks look dark-grey-greeenish on 7 Plus whereas on X they are beautiful pitch black.
as it should be.

OLED is simply superior display tech.and everything looks noticeably better.no matter what.
I did the same.. the X did look a little better but I wasn't blown away by any means... and the iPhone 7 plus screen was bigger and not so cropped :-/
 
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The screen will outlast the useful life of the phone. Future iOS slowdowns and customer boredom with the device will ensure the planned obsolescence business model stays strong.
Man - these X phones are going to have crap resell value because of this.
But that fits in just fine with apple's business model as well.
Sure, if as you say, you don't mind letting Apple tell you when you will pay them money to replace the thing you just bought, and paid way too much for, and which has fewer capabilities than the previous model, (i.e., no headphone jack,) and which therefore costs you more not only to buy, but to use because now you ALSO have to buy a set of headphones that do exactly what the $20 headphones you HAD did, only now, they're easier to lose, and have periodically to be recharged in the proprietary charger, AND then THAT charger (which takes up more space so they could save a tiny bit of volume inside the phone, which btw, that's several cubic INCHES of extra pocket space you have to sacrifice, to save roughly one or two cubic centimeters inside the phone...) ITSELF must be recharged so it can do the charging of the headphones...

Yeah. Trouble is, some of us are prepared to insist on being able to plug in headphones, not be obliged to buy accessories only Apple makes to use with the product, and on NOT just using the thing for a year and then throwing it away.

Also, again, this is all just an excuse from Apple. If Apple wants to continue to pretend they're innovative, maybe they should have come up with a better screen technology than OLED, or improved OLED, rather than just playing follow-the-leader with other cellphone manufacturers, which is what it looks like they're doing.

Bear in mind, I'm not dumping on Apple here. I'm on my n'th iPhone myself, typing this on an iMac, (not my first,) while listening to a podcast being played (yes, through its headphone jack,) on an iPad. But I will not hesitate to be critical of Apple, when they, as seems increasingly to be the case nowadays, deserve criticism.

Everything they've done in iPhones since the 7 deserves, as far as I'm concerned, MASSIVE criticism--lack of honesty, exorbitant prices, a release cycle that is beginning to resemble the one used and abused by the automotive industry for decades now, REMOVING features just to pretend they're innovating and calling it "courage," which is the funniest thing I've heard from anyone at Apple in a while.

What Apple's doing is NOT good behavior in a corporation. Even if it's not illegal, or tortious, to defraud customers in this way, it is really gross. If I can use an analogy, it would be like the new Ford Hyperfocus being 500 pounds lighter than previous models of the regular focus because Ford decided to remove the ENGINE. Without the gasoline engine, the Ford Hyperfocus will be 27% lighter, 13% smaller, and be infinitely more fuel-efficient!

"Ah," you might say, "good for them; obviously they're going electric!"

Nope. It's gas powered, has a gas cap, a gas filler tube, and a gas TANK; it would feature a regular 3-speed automatic transmission... it would just have no engine. So it'd be lighter, and use MUCH less gasoline! Because, you know... "courage."

Just saying.
 
Sorry but LCD is the past.

*cough* Cinema Display, iMac, MBP, MB, iPad/Pro/Mini, iPhone 8/7/6S/SE *cough* :p:confused::eek:

If something is not broken, do not fix it unless you can make it better without shortcomings that did not exist on what is being replaced. *cough* Butterfly Keyboard 1/2 *cough* :p:D

Micro LCD is the future and successor to AMOLED, might want to reconsider your stance, as I am sure once you see a micro LCD screen you will forget what AMOLED even is. Selective amnesia :rolleyes:
 
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Let try again. Define normally. People will watch videos with that thing. Maybe apple should tell you that you’re user experience is wrong.
Pat, a video isn't a static image. Just because an OLED panel can experience burn in, doesn't mean it will experience burn in. I've had an S2, S5, I currently have an S7 and my wife has an S8. Guess which one had the burn in? None. Anecdotal, of course, but none of them had burn in cuz none were sitting on static images using high brightness, high contrast for hours on end. Primarily because that's not how people use phones. Unless you are going to be renting your X to a retail store for display, I'm pretty sure you won't be doing that either.:D
 
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