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Apple isn't addressing privacy when they accept money to make Google search the default. It's hypocritical.

Genuinely curious, can you name any other smart for manufacturer that extends to the lengths that Apple does to advocate privacy and security to protect the consumer?
 
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At risk of repeating myself.. heck, what the he'll.. your prescious Apple is sticking two fingers up at you right now. Taking millions from Google to favour their search engine. And you big them up over Google about privacy. Hilarious!!!!!
Not millions—billions. Apple is a thousand times smarter than you give them credit for.

How does Apple’s deal with Google for default search engine affect your privacy? Is Apple handing over your data to Google?

If you don’t want to use Google, feel free to change it: Settings/Safari/Search Engine. Then you can Bing it instead.
 
At risk of repeating myself.. heck, what the he'll.. your prescious Apple is sticking two fingers up at you right now. Taking millions from Google to favour their search engine. And you big them up over Google about privacy. Hilarious!!!!!


And you can switch to Duck Duck Go. It took me 10 seconds. Most people who don't know that aren't going to care anyway.
 
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Apple isn't addressing privacy when they accept money to make Google search the default. It's hypocritical.

This is the 4th or 5th post that gets this wrong. Why do people insist on spreading misinformation about Apple & Google?

Google does not, and I repeat, does not get user identifying information about anything I search for. It’s not hypocritical at all to allow users to get search results from Google that aren’t tied to a specific user.

Now if Apple started to supply Google with my Apple ID or phone number THEN the privacy claims go out the window.
 
Classic Tim Cook/Apple doublespeak.

Until you stop demanding billions from Google there Timmy your supposed “Stance on Privacy” is nothing more than hot air and ********
There is a difference between allowing the preferred search engine to pay to be the default engine with restrictions that keep them from tracking you across the web, then to have a company who does not respect your privacy because to do so would limit their ability to have access to the data Apple won’t give them.
 
Great ad and demonstration of show, don't tell.

I may have read this incorrectly, but in today's news re: the latest Facebook (FB) scandal, it was mentioned that Apple was/is amongst the companies buying user information collected by FB in one way or another, often obtained without user knowledge, let alone consent.

If this is not the case, I stand corrected and apologize to Dr. Cook. If the story is accurate, however, it would mean that despite doing all they can to prevent the bad guys from stealing my iPhone data directly, Apple's effort is somewhat diminished if they turn around and buy it all anyway from the likes of a Zuckerberg, no?

I believe you are correct. In today's world, it's a matter of degree, no one is 100% pure. Everyone is buying data. Not everyone is selling it.
 
Except Google doesn’t get any identifying information about me. Only generic search requests.

Actually, they don’t even get that since I long ago set Duck Duck Go as my default.
And you completely missed the point as well
 
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There is a difference between allowing the preferred search engine to pay to be the default engine with restrictions that keep them from tracking you across the web, then to have a company who does not respect your privacy because to do so would limit their ability to have access to the data Apple won’t give them.
Here's the issue though: You don't get to sit on your high horse and lecture people about privacy on one hand while taking kickbacks from a company that you regularly demonize for their supposed violations on the other.

It's called hypocrisy.
 
Apple isn't addressing privacy when they accept money to make Google search the default. It's hypocritical.
How does Apple charging Google to be the default search engine affect your privacy?

If Apple didn’t allow you to choose others in order to maximize their revenue from Google, you would have a strong point. But if you don’t want to use Google, you can change it.
 
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The same Apple who partner with Google on all things search? Interesting....

Actually they don’t. It is the default engine because most customers currently prefer it to be, but they actually use Bing and others for Siri.
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I cannot beleive that after more than 12 years of smartphone industry peoples still beleive this fiasco: privacy and encryption. Ever heard of sting rays or imsi? Your phone communicates with it fully decrypted! The Police have them, secret services, even hackers. Yea, Apple is more secure. Not! Just forget about this things like privacy and encryption. They are promoted so that you feel safe and encourage criminals that they are safe to do stuff, when in fact its the opposite.
Is this why the government went to great lengths to force Apple to create a back door to their encryption? Which they failed.
 
Classic Tim Cook/Apple doublespeak.

Until you stop demanding billions from Google there Timmy your supposed “Stance on Privacy” is nothing more than hot air and ********

THEN DON'T USE GOOGLE YOU SPONGE.
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These ads don't work because it reminds people of iCloud celebrity nude pictures leak, Facetime eavesdropping, moving private user data to Chinese government servers, etc. when they watch them.

Except those iCloud celeb phots weren't hacked. iCloud was still secure. It's just that some idiots figured out those celebs' passwords and stole their pics.
 
Here's the issue though: You don't get to sit on your high horse and lecture people about privacy on one hand while taking kickbacks from a company that you regularly demonize for their supposed violations on the other.

It's called hypocrisy.
1) “Taking kickbacks” is a mis-characterization and you know it.

2) “Regularly demonize”? Is that accurate? Saying Apple values privacy while others clearly employ a lack of privacy as an essential element of their business model isn’t “demonizing” conduct is it? Or maybe you’re referring to something else?
 
Here's the issue though: You don't get to sit on your high horse and lecture people about privacy on one hand while taking kickbacks from a company that you regularly demonize for their supposed violations on the other.

It's called hypocrisy.


I don't see it. Apple says that their hardware and OS are hardened but if you want to use unsafe apps then that's your business. If they forced us to use Google and allowed them into the OS then I'd cry hypocrisy. I use DDG and avoid Google whenever possible.
 
These ads don't work because it reminds people of iCloud celebrity nude pictures leak, Facetime eavesdropping, moving private user data to Chinese government servers, etc.
It does? Maybe it reminds some people but I can’t (and I don’t know how you can say definitively) say it reminds all people. Not everybody is caught up in these stories about phishing and bugs. And probably fewer even care about policies in China. IMO, only the critics care.
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Here's the issue though: You don't get to sit on your high horse and lecture people about privacy on one hand while taking kickbacks from a company that you regularly demonize for their supposed violations on the other.

It's called hypocrisy.
It’s called business. Most people understand google is not Apple, so your “argument” falls on its face.
 



Apple today shared a new privacy-focused iPhone ad on its YouTube channel. The ad will premiere tonight and air through March Madness in the United States before expanding to select other markets globally.


The 45-second video starts with the tagline "privacy matters" and then shows a variety of humorous if not slightly awkward situations where people would want their privacy protected in everyday life. In one scene, for example, two men briefly pause their conversation while a waitress is at their table.

"If privacy matters in your life, it should matter to the phone your life is on," the ad concludes. "Privacy. That's iPhone."

The ad arrives around six weeks after a major FaceTime bug was uncovered that allowed one person to call another person over FaceTime and listen to that other person's audio without the call being answered. Apple fixed the bug in iOS 12.1.4 and apologized, but it certainly wasn't good for its reputation.

Apple similarly promoted its privacy stance with a billboard near CES 2019 in Las Vegas that read "what happens on your iPhone, stays on your iPhone."

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Bugs aside, Apple really does place an emphasis on privacy, especially compared to some other tech giants like Facebook. Apple has long said it believes privacy is a "fundamental human right," and as part of that, it aims to minimize its collection of customer data and disassociate it from an individual user when it does.

Article Link: Apple Says 'Privacy Matters' in Humorous New iPhone Ad


I thought the ad was really good. I see that some replies are pessimistic. My wife and I recently switched to Iphone from chinese / google phones and I'll never go back to that. Yeah you save a few bucks buying china but Apple seems to have a focus on quality that really appeals to me. I do not want a spying phone or support a philosophy of spying. I get why people hate on Apple but Apple doesn't deserve half of the hate it gets.
 
Bravo! This ad is brilliant. An example of what they can do when they are focused and true to their core brand.

The way they make the link between real world security and phone security is inspired—building a bridge for non-tech folks that’s simple and relatable, without delving into cheap scare tactics that would be offbrand. And the padlock on the Apple logo in the tag just puts it over the top.
 
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It’s a good advert because I imagine there are a fair few people in the world who’ll happily mute a conversation etc but might not think twice about what they post online etc.

The phrase “loose lips sink ships” should be on more people’s minds when they are using a third party app or service, even if the core hardware and software doesn’t invade your privacy.
 
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Nice ad. Although Apple doesn’t extend that philosophy to easy privacy on photos and documents the way other phone makers like Samsung do. It would be nice for a system wide ability to move things away from prying eyes that you might pass your phone off to for a bit, say releatives around a dinner table for instance. Even a spouse that you might be trying to get a certain present for and don’t want them to see a picture of the item.
 
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