If you draw, then you are interested in a touch screen MacBook Pro or an Ipad Pro that can run real apps. It sucks dragging a long a Wacom when you're on the go. I'm due for new laptop and have been holding off waiting for some updates. Right now the Wacom Mobile studio or Surface Book pro are starting to look interesting.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Apple Says Touchscreen Macs 'Not a Particularly Useful or Appropriate Application of Multi-Touch'
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
I think what happened to Ive is that the once curious designers who were constantly looking at new materials, has now become concervative and dull in his approach.
And the reasons they didnt feel touch panels was right for the Macbook, is because they didn´t think of making a reversable screen like Microsoft has done with Surface Book. And they didnt want to merge iPad and Macbook together.
And the reasons they didnt feel touch panels was right for the Macbook, is because they didn´t think of making a reversable screen like Microsoft has done with Surface Book. And they didnt want to merge iPad and Macbook together.
Sooo . . . . . . I just got back from the Microsoft Store. Their new Microsoft Surface Studio is beyond incredible. Apple senior management needs to have a serious reality check. Abandoning their hardware customers is going to really hurt them in the future.
If Apple, just wants to be a phone company and a software/content company, fine. But instead of focusing on building a new corporate headquarters to pay homage to their past innovations, I suggest they start paying serious attention to their future innovations.
Microsoft just took a whole bunch of my money, and I am beyond excited to receive this new Microsoft technology. I haven't felt this way about an Apple product in a very long time. The love affair has seriously faded, Apple.
If Apple, just wants to be a phone company and a software/content company, fine. But instead of focusing on building a new corporate headquarters to pay homage to their past innovations, I suggest they start paying serious attention to their future innovations.
Microsoft just took a whole bunch of my money, and I am beyond excited to receive this new Microsoft technology. I haven't felt this way about an Apple product in a very long time. The love affair has seriously faded, Apple.
In the CNET interview:
The last answer, hmmm touch screen on the next update in the Early 2017 to piss people off that bought Late 2016?
Q: You say different would be easy and fast. Is that why we’re not seeing a touchscreen-based MacBook Pro? That would have been an easy choice. Or was it something other PC makers have done and you wanted to go in a different direction?
A: When we were exploring multitouch many, many years ago, we were trying to understand the appropriate application and opportunities for [it]. We just didn’t feel that [the Mac] was the right place for that…. It wasn’t particularly useful or an appropriate application of multitouch.
Q. Because?
A. For a bunch of practical reasons. It’s difficult to talk [laughs] without going into a lot of details that puts me starting to talk about things that we are working on. I don’t really want to talk much more about it.
LOL, so in a sense Apple has no reason that they want to admit to for not including a touch screen. I tell, you when you are using things like Google Earth Pro, touch screen comes in really handy, so does exploration of 3D data sets. But Apple has decided to dictate what consumers want -- you would of thought that learned that from their failed argument for not introducing a larger screen on the iPhone days.A: When we were exploring multitouch many, many years ago, we were trying to understand the appropriate application and opportunities for [it]. We just didn’t feel that [the Mac] was the right place for that…. It wasn’t particularly useful or an appropriate application of multitouch.
Q. Because?
A. For a bunch of practical reasons. It’s difficult to talk [laughs] without going into a lot of details that puts me starting to talk about things that we are working on. I don’t really want to talk much more about it.
The last answer, hmmm touch screen on the next update in the Early 2017 to piss people off that bought Late 2016?
Am I the only Apple fan who is seriously pissed off about the way Ive is answering this question?
They have "been working on" exciting technology for years now, hinting and hinting and hinting at an incredible future. But year after year, they keep introducing the same products with absolutely minimal new features. And theres he is, not wanting to give anything away. I´m not buying it anymore. I dont think they actually are going to innovate their own products anymore.
They didnt think of a reversable screen. They should have.
LOL, look at all the fanboys defending non-touch... as if somehow if Apple has touchscreen, you are forced to use it for every single operation. (yeah, that's TOTALLY how Windows work).
if Touchscreen is bad, what does making a specialized touch strip? Oh wait, is it all the sudden "Magical" because it's about 2 inches away from the actual screen?
SOme people need to really think for themselves and put down the kool-aid
if Touchscreen is bad, what does making a specialized touch strip? Oh wait, is it all the sudden "Magical" because it's about 2 inches away from the actual screen?
SOme people need to really think for themselves and put down the kool-aid
except they've said it for years. Jobs said the same - gorilla arms. get educated.
[doublepost=1477943464][/doublepost]
yes, they're making far too much money for the company and extremely successfully products with millions of very happy customers who vote with their dollars every year. this will not do!
I agree with you, it's always jam tomorrow. They've got "amazing" things in the pipeline. Reminds me of the cry wolf poem - I just don't believe them anymore. I don't think they have anything exciting or innovative in the pipeline but they can't say that because the share price would fall.
I don't see many happy customers on here. We're all Mac users. Sales are falling across their product lines. You don't go from being successful to unsuccessful overnight. It happens gradually over time. They've not had a major new product launch for 6 years. That was the iPad. Since then zip, nada, **** all. Even the Watch has been a damp squib.
That's because PRO users know to buy an iPad Pro for all their iOS touch needs like swiping pictures, and a MacBook Pro for all their computer needs. Timmy and Jony have made it so simple for all the Pro $$ users.
I used the Surface Book for a project at the office for two months or so, and I loved it way more than my current MacBook Pro Retina.
The thing is, touch screen is really meant for when you want to transition into tablet mode (by detaching it from the keyboard). It worked really well in that mode, and their version of the Pencil/Pen was also quite nice (some noticeable lag at times, admittedly). I enjoyed working in that, but the two main problems I had were weight (not heavy to me, but I can see why it might be to many folks), and some software nuances like the software keyboard not automatically popping up when you go to write something.
For touch screen when it is in laptop mode, I used it occasionally and spontaneously. when I did use it, it was very helpful to have. For those of us who don't want to keep swiping away at the trackpad to mouse over to close a window for example, or want to hit that cell in Excel and switch back to another sheet. The touchscreen made those things a breeze. Trackpad was definitely my primary input in laptop mode, but having the touchscreen really helped.
You really have to try the Surface Book intuitively to enjoy it. You can't force a "touch only" laptop mode, otherwise yes, your wrist hurts. But when you start using it as a laptop with a trackpad, but having the OPTION to touch the screen to quickly do something or swipe something. I think that's where it hits the right notes. My MacBook Pro retina definitely feels behind and ancient, having experienced the Surface Book. And I don't think the new MacBooks closed that gap one bit.
I appreciate your response! I was using it on a laptop with touchscreen capabilities rather than say a surface pro. I could see how that could make a difference.
That's a weak argument. A tv screen doesn't sit within inches of your face and hands. But I can imagine some use cases, such as classrooms, presentation rooms or weather that a large touchscreen tv screen would be very helpful. It would almost be a digital white or chalkboard by that case.
Hate to say it, but this signals Apple's official approval that touchscreens indeed have a place for laptops.
Not only that, but with so many negativity building for the new Macbook Pro lineup (steep prices, lack of ports, iffy touch bar, lack of ram), I think Windows laptops in the near-term will have a greater rise.
Not only that, but with so many negativity building for the new Macbook Pro lineup (steep prices, lack of ports, iffy touch bar, lack of ram), I think Windows laptops in the near-term will have a greater rise.
Are you kidding? Please use google:
Don't hold it that way - Jobs
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2010/jun/25/iphone-reception-problems-solved
4 inch size:
http://www.imore.com/tim-cook-addresses-larger-screen-sizes-says-apple-picked-right-one-4-inches
Couldn't agree more. Students' and scientists' default choice will go from MBP -> Surface (already happening). Don't worry, Apple is going to stop being blind rather soon, or it can close its computer business... having said that, it might be that they actually prefer the latter anyway :-(.
I have a 15 inch touchscreen Toshiba and rarely use it for touch, either. The problem with most of the Windows touch machines is that they are not optimized for Pen input. For my use, that makes the touch features fairly useless. However, the Surface machines are optimized for Pen input, which is what I would hope Apple would do. My main issue with the Surface machines is that I like ~15 inch screens and they don't sell them in that size because they think people want to use them as tablets. I think 13.5 is too big for most of my tablet use, so that is the other issue.
Not sure I would ever be happy with just a hybrid device because my screen size preferences are different for tablets than they are for laptops. However, I would still like Pencil input even if I didn't use the touch features for anything else. Outside of Pencil input, I think I would prefer the Touch Bar since my hands are naturally on the keyboard, not up on the screen when I am in clamshell mode.
Wow, Steve Jobs basically explains what happened at Xerox when the EXACT same thing is happening to the company he created. Must be rolling in his grave.
