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Except Apple doesn't have much to do with what the Unicode Consortium does.

I'd love to see where the unicode consortium got together and said hey let's put thousands of man hours into writing code that when you look into the front facing camera, it makes the poop cartoon talk\smile\react to your movement. This site has gotten so negative... you literally just argued for the sake of arguing. You know darn well Apple is responsible for this kinda garbage. No other OS lists "new emojis" as a feature of a release.
 
The 7 has been out since September 2016. The 6 has been out since September 2015. So it's 2 years old. I assume you didn't buy it right when the 7 came out, right? And even if u bought mid-cycle it was probably produced long before. Either way, batteries start losing their charge capacity after a year... But either way, it's no spring chicken. I don't get it how people seem to think this is the old Apple where they build things to last... they don't.
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What was the caller ID bug? i haven't noticed on any of the betas. The stutter between screens within a folder still persists on occasion. :-(

Caller id not being send to the other side (apearing as a unknown caller)
First mention on apple dev sites is months ago on early betas.
Also a threat on apple support community and mentioned on some apple sites after release ios11.
 
I'd love to see where the unicode consortium got together and said hey let's put thousands of man hours into writing code that when you look into the front facing camera, it makes the poop cartoon talk\smile\react to your movement. This site has gotten so negative... you literally just argued for the sake of arguing. You know darn well Apple is responsible for this kinda garbage. No other OS lists "new emojis" as a feature of a release.

You don't believe that there is such a thing as the Unicode Consortium? There's plenty of research on it.
 
I'd love to see where the unicode consortium got together and said hey let's put thousands of man hours into writing code that when you look into the front facing camera, it makes the poop cartoon talk\smile\react to your movement. This site has gotten so negative... you literally just argued for the sake of arguing. You know darn well Apple is responsible for this kinda garbage. No other OS lists "new emojis" as a feature of a release.
Except that the emojis being discussed here aren't those animated ones or anything like that. People seem to get upset just for the sake of getting upset it seems.
 
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Except that the emojis being discussed here aren't those animated ones or anything like that. People seem to get upset just for the sake of getting upset it seems.

I think people get upset because Apple is focusing on delivering things that most people don't want, and not what people really care about.
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You don't believe that there is such a thing as the Unicode Consortium? There's plenty of research on it.

Try reading my comment again, slowly if you have to.
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Caller id not being send to the other side (apearing as a unknown caller)
First mention on apple dev sites is months ago on early betas.
Also a threat on apple support community and mentioned on some apple sites after release ios11.

That's weird, sounds more like a carrier issue. No I definitely have never experienced that. But I don't know how that would be an issue with iOS rather than the carrier. And if it's only not doing it sometimes, I'd definitely say carrier, because the phone\iOS either toggles yes\no for send caller ID data, but even then it's just telling the carrier to send or not send. This is the first post I've seen about that issue in regards to iOS 11.
 
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Some people with the original watch can get this feature. And some are on full issue iOS and some on beta, so I don’t understand why some of us can’t get elevated heart rate warnings.

All this hassle is going to elevate my heart rate!!!

I do not even have the option for any settings for heart rate app. It does not even show icon in watch settings app list on the phone. I do remember seeing it before though.
 
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I think people get upset because Apple is focusing on delivering things that most people don't want, and not what people really care about.
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Try reading my comment again, slowly if you have to.
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That's weird, sounds more like a carrier issue. No I definitely have never experienced that. But I don't know how that would be an issue with iOS rather than the carrier. And if it's only not doing it sometimes, I'd definitely say carrier, because the phone\iOS either toggles yes\no for send caller ID data, but even then it's just telling the carrier to send or not send. This is the first post I've seen about that issue in regards to iOS 11.
A few visual designers working on keeping up to date with what the Unicode Consortium sets doesn't get in the way of other things that get added, tweaked, and fixed. Seems like either people actually don't get that or don't want to get that. Either way, it doesn't change that basic reality. Much ado about nothing essentially when it comes to that.
 
A few visual designers working on keeping up to date with what the Unicode Consortium sets doesn't get in the way of other things that get added, tweaked, and fixed. Seems like either people actually don't get that or don't want to get that. Either way, it doesn't change that basic reality. Much ado about nothing essentially when it comes to that.

I think the response is more along the lines of that's what Apple is advertising as new and exciting features in a iOS release. And when you act like there's hardly any man hours on it, you'd be surprised. Apple probably has 10 devs that all they do is emojis. Remember, the standard just says :) = the smiley. Apple has to create the smiley and all those other emojis. There is really a LOT to it. But you never see Google advertise that it's a new feature... it's just expected to be there.

And the point I brought up was the Animojis. That sort of development takes months and entire teams of people in hardware and software to pull off.
 
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I think the response is more along the lines of that's what Apple is advertising as new and exciting features in a iOS release. And when you act like there's hardly any man hours on it, you'd be surprised. Apple probably has 10 devs that all they do is emojis. Remember, the standard just says :) = the smiley. Apple has to create the smiley and all those other emojis. There is really a LOT to it. But you never see Google advertise that it's a new feature... it's just expected to be there.

And the point I brought up was the Animojis. That sort of development takes months and entire teams of people in hardware and software to pull off.
The time spent on this by artists and designers doesn't affect the time spent by developers or anyone else on features, changes, fixes, etc.

What most have been commenting on in this thread has been just typical emoji updates, which is the context of my comments about it all.
 
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Don't understand the point of these incremental updates where they put 5-10 new emojis every time. They coulda easily put an "emoji package" into Appstore free to download and left it to user's choice.
It’s meant as an incentive to upgrade! People are to lazy to update even if it endangers their security, so they have to include smthg that makes people upgrade, for their own good.
 
I don't.

I find Apple's attention to emojis exemplifies their change in focus from pro users to the average consumer. This is common criticism they're racing to correct. At the same time, I understand that making products for the layperson is drawing from a much larger demographic which means more money.

I look at a feature and ask: How can this increase productivity or make things more efficient? Emojis seem like pure fluffery.


You can always just not use them.
 
I don't.

I find Apple's attention to emojis exemplifies their change in focus from pro users to the average consumer. This is common criticism they're racing to correct. At the same time, I understand that making products for the layperson is drawing from a much larger demographic which means more money.

I look at a feature and ask: How can this increase productivity or make things more efficient? Emojis seem like pure fluffery.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...c-beta-available.2079135/page-8#post-25255536
 
You can always just not use them.

This.

Fact is, the Crabby Appleton’s who carp in emoji, and seem to think it is delaying a Mac mini update, are not only tiresome, a bit silly in their hate, but are entirely unrepresentative of the vast majority of iPhone users who make Messages the most used app on the iPhone.
 
I don't.

I find Apple's attention to emojis exemplifies their change in focus from pro users to the average consumer. This is common criticism they're racing to correct. At the same time, I understand that making products for the layperson is drawing from a much larger demographic which means more money.

I look at a feature and ask: How can this increase productivity or make things more efficient? Emojis seem like pure fluffery.

Then you are asking the wrong question.

Apple has always been about making technology more personal to us. It’s not always about raw productivity but also breaking down more complex tasks into smaller, more granular tasks and making them more accessible to the average user.

And you wonder why you don’t like the answers you are getting?
 
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Then you are asking the wrong question.

Apple has always been about making technology more personal to us. It’s not always about raw productivity but also breaking down more complex tasks into smaller, more granular tasks and making them more accessible to the average user.

And you wonder why you don’t like the answers you are getting?

How is asking how a particular gadget or feature beneficial the wrong question? It's a practical question one should ask before investing in a piece of equipment, particularly at Apple's prices.

I don't think emojis has very little to do with "granular tasks and making them more accessible to the average user". Think about when iOS10 came out - the keyboard section of the UI was cluttered with stickers, emojis, drawing little notes, it was a mess and took away from the basic functionality of simply entering text.

Apple seems to have two types of users: the pro users who use technology as a tool and the consumers who use them for personal, probably recreational reasons. This is why Steve tried to perpetuate a pro model and a non-pro model of the Mac. So you're going to get two different perspectives on his forum - neither is right or wrong, but true from a particular perspective.

I think another user on this thread had a good idea: make them an optional install for those who use them. Why bog down your phone with features you don't use?
 
I don't.

I find Apple's attention to emojis exemplifies their change in focus from pro users to the average consumer. This is common criticism they're racing to correct. At the same time, I understand that making products for the layperson is drawing from a much larger demographic which means more money.

I look at a feature and ask: How can this increase productivity or make things more efficient? Emojis seem like pure fluffery.
How about they put some fun into the product? Why should an iPhone be about “pure productivity and business?”
 
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