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What I would REALLY like is a switch to turn off the cellular network entirely and just use Wi-Fi (examples: college classes, airplanes that offer WiFi). Sometimes Airplane Mode cuts you off a little TOO much.

That's always been possible. After turning on Airplane Mode, just turn on wifi again.
 
5.1 will be make or break for me whether or not I'll return the 4S. Four different units give me a battery life time of 5 hours maximum.

I don't want to able to delete photostream pictures: I want my new phone to last about as long as my old phone did.

My 4S battery definitely doesn't last as long as the 4, but there have really only ever been one or two occasions where it dies in the middle of the day. Why not just buy a backup battery to keep in your briefcase or whatever you carry around? They're small and cheap.

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That's always been possible. After turning on Airplane Mode, just turn on wifi again.


Ahh, great thank you! I always wondered if that was possible but I guess I just never tried it!

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This is true. Sometimes my 4S lasts 20 minutes at 1%, sometimes 2 minutes.

Yes, very true. The 4S seems to have the problem that all electronic devices have where it will drain slowly at first and then drain quicker as the battery life goes down, but then when it gets under 10% it usually seems to last twice as long as it took get get from 20% to 10%, and other times when it gets to 10% its dead in 10 minutes.
 
What I would REALLY like is a switch to turn off the cellular network entirely and just use Wi-Fi (examples: college classes, airplanes that offer WiFi). Sometimes Airplane Mode cuts you off a little TOO much.

You can do that. Just turn off 3G and cellular data leaving only WiFi on.

It even says so in the setting :
 

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Limitation of Verizon, or something very similar is the exact reason cited by Apple in a previous bug report I saw a while back around release date.
Strange, and sad, given most of their other phones (even most of their old basic ones) can easily support that.
 
Well, I have tried most of the stuff people suggest. Restore new phone, add apps and see which ones impact on battery life, etc.

It does not work. Battery life appeared pretty solid on iOS 5.0, but after a week that notification 'there's an update for your iPhone' started to get on my nerves and so I updated. Battery life has been hell ever since, but there is nowadays no chance to go back to 5.0 software.

Based on some of the posts I read, I am positive that 5.1 will solve most of my battery woes. It's just that I have been waiting 2 months to get it.
 
In case it might help, I think there was an updated iOS 5.0.1 (build 406) release for 4S specifically made available a few weeks ago which dealt with issues of that type specifically.Even years-old VZW feature phones had the ability to disable 3G/EV-DO (or basically simply be forced to use 1X, which more or less CDMA's 2G technology), so any phone today should definitely be able to do it if it's something that's made available on it.
Ironically, when Sprint rolled out 1x ten years ago it was touted as 3G. While many instead called it 2.5G I don't think it was ever referred to as 2G.


(August 2002) Sprint PCS launches the U.S.'s first nationwide 3G wireless network this week. The new service, called PCS Vision, will provide download speeds of 50-70 kbps, with a theoretical maximum transfer of 144 kbps. New handsets (from Samsung, Sanyo, LG, and Handspring) and wireless modems will be sold to support the new CDMA2000 1X network. Plans will start at US$49.99 for handset and will include voice minutes and a measure of download (charged by the megabyte); hight-end plans will go for $199.99. Plans for laptops equipped with wireless modems will have the same price range but include only data, from 20 to 120 megabytes.
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/sprint-pcs-rolls-out-nationwide-3g-2002089/

The logic was that analog was 1G (there were modems and data devices that ran on analog systems), GSM/cdmaONE was 2G, and GPRS/CDMA 1x 2.5G.



Michael
 
the facetime and imessage issues mostly sound like signal related issues to me. tho the flicker, is that on the front camera? i've noticed a flicker on mine like it flicks darker, random glitch whist seems to go if you flick to back camera then to front, i've reported the bug, it seems to be a known bug. sprint's horrible speeds and connection are sprint's fault, so why would apple take blame for that?! lol. as for your usage, i do way more than that before hitting 60%

FaceTime issues shouldn't be signal related. I have full bars and have high wifi speeds. I'll try Facetiming with my Macbook and no issues, I try with my iPod and iPad and no issues either, it's only my iPhone that has these issues. I've also asked my gf to FaceTime me at both my email and phone and I get mixed results all the time, it tends to get frustrating.

The flickering light I've only seen a few times, and it's on the front camera.

As far as the connection is concerned, I've read of Sprint users on other phones having faster speeds than those with the 4s. I can have full bars and get lower speeds than a person on the same network but different phone, while the person is next to me. I've actually had this demo with the Sprint rep that sold it to me. he took out his phone, I took out mine and he killed me.

I understand usage will vary on the handset, but I still believe it's a software issue. There's days when I don't do anything on it, and the battery drains fast. Then there's days in which I'm completely baffled at how long it lasts.

To sum it up in one word: INCONSISTENCY

At times iMessages are fast... at times they're slow
At times FaceTime is great.... moments later it won't receive anything
At times my battery life is great.... other times I can see it dissolve in front of my eyes by me just holding it.

I've performed all the recommended actions, done all the tweaks, and it doesn't seem to work. I'll wait to see what this next update does to solve some of these issues before I turn return it.

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This is true. Sometimes my 4S lasts 20 minutes at 1%, sometimes 2 minutes.

And this goes back to my comment about the issues being iOS related and how the entire experience has been 'inconsistent'.

At times I love it, at times I hate it.

I expect much more from Apple.
 
Strange, and sad, given most of their other phones (even most of their old basic ones) can easily support that.
It could be at the request of Verizon. Even on the iPhone 4 carriers have the option of disabling the 3G switch.

While it could be the new baseband on the 4S, since that was also thrown out as to why the 4S didn't have the option at all and has been proven wrong for GSM I don't think the baseband is the issue with Verizon either. Especially since they have been removing that option from many phones lately.




Michael
 
Ok, what I want to know is whether the iPad music player still sucks and also whether the ability to play videos while phone is locked is restored (audio only).
 
Hopefully these update will fix most of the Safari crashes and apps that crash especially the battery problems to on iPod Touch.
 
That's always been possible. After turning on Airplane Mode, just turn on wifi again.

Originally AIrplane mode did not allow wifi at all. It was after planes started getting wifi that it was added to the iPhone.



Michael

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Absolutely NOT. Edge is painfully slow. And other than battery life, it isn't like your data usage will be less on Edge. It'll just download slower.
Soon as I read the subject of this article I knew someone would have to chime in with that kind of ignorance.




Michael
 
Ironically, when Sprint rolled out 1x ten years ago it was touted as 3G. While many instead called it 2.5G I don't think it was ever referred to as 2G.



http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/sprint-pcs-rolls-out-nationwide-3g-2002089/

The logic was that analog was 1G (there were modems and data devices that ran on analog systems), GSM/cdmaONE was 2G, and GPRS/CDMA 1x 2.5G.



Michael
Right. I was writing that and was going to say more along the lines of "CDMA's EDGE-like technology" but ended up leaving it as "2G".

Nevertheless, in the end, it's still sad that for whatever reason 3G control on the phone doesn't seem to be present on VZW iPhones.
 
i really dont notice any difference in battery life between my old 4 and the 4s! I think i must be one of the lucky ones as my wide is always complaining about the battery since upgrading to 4s?!?!
 
Still no screen adjustment options?

Are there still no screen temperature &/or contrast adjustments available for us to make some minor tweaks? I was really hoping & looking forward to such options being offered to us in the upcoming iOS update so that I can make my iPhone 4S's very yellow screen look a bit better. Man, this is disappointing for me. :(
 
Yep. The Enable 3G toggle is not on the Sprint iPhone 4S. Disappointing. My battery life with beta 2 was fantastic, hopefully the same will be said for beta 3.
 
I want to an option to choose the color of the texts I see. In other words, with iMessage, the bubbles are blue, and texts are green... call me a child, but it would be "neato" if we could custom those text/imessage bubbles.

Holding my breath... not really
 
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In my case the phone is reporting fake usage. One of Apples daemons is preventing the Phone sleeping so the usage & standby times are going up on step despite me not using the phone.

This means if I don't use the phone at all, it's on Wifi, no calls or anything it had at most 24 hours standby life.

Ive seen the power logs, I know the battery itself is okay and in those logs I have seen the mstreamd process preventing the 4S sleeping from anything from 15 minutes to 33 hours.


Have you submitted this as a bug report? Apple.com/feedback

Yes, original report on the 30th Dec, followed up on the 4th when I found the info in the powerlogs and added a couple of notes since.
 
This is very good news. When I'm at crowded conventions (and as somebody else pointed out, I'm sure it's good for big sports games) and 3G is saturated and hard to get a consistent signal, I always used to switch to EDGE. I'd get a slower data rate, sure, but I'd actually get data without constant disconnections or timeouts.

While true, EDGE uses less battery and it's good for that, the biggest reason I want a 3G toggle is because 3G is sometimes spotty where EDGE has great coverage.
 
i wonder if that switch has anything to do with them getting ready for 4G LTE switch?

I think it has more to do with resolving any remaining issues vis a vis battery life on the 4S. I think most people with battery problems on the 4S live in areas with poor 3G signal and therefore their phone is sucking the battery dry as the antenna needs to use more power to keep a connection. For example, if you're on a call on a 2-bar connection, it is using a lot more power than a call made on a 5-bar connection.

In addition, when signal strength is low but your phone is on standby, the antenna never gets a chance to idle and constantly tries to find a better signal and establish new connections. Basically, in those situations it is consuming as much battery as if you were on an active call (even though your phone is on standby) because the antenna doesn't get a chance to go to idle mode.
 
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