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Apple Seeds iPhone Firmware 2.2 Beta 1

kingballin20 said:
what is push and what does it mean by compatibility test?
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Push is apple's answer to background applications. It's actually a very smart way of doing it vs having app running in the background all the time draining the battery.

The perfect example would be the AIM application. Right now if you exit back to the home screen you will not get any updates if someone IMs you. The only thing available now is to sign out of AIM on all computers so you appear on mobile and can set it up on the AIM end to send you a text message to your phone.

With the new push servers form apple you will be able to get updates similar to how push email comes it. Some kind of alert and then a number next to the AIM icon on the home screen letting you know that there are new IMs to view without having to have the app running in the background!
 
I'd really like the iPhone to clean it's own damn screen. I'm tired of wiping it down with my shirt! Do you think they could do that in a firmware update, or will that be a third-gen hardware feature?
 
nickelcokes said:
I'd really like the iPhone to clean it's own damn screen. I'm tired of wiping it down with my shirt! Do you think they could do that in a firmware update, or will that be a third-gen hardware feature?
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Try putting it in the wash... that'll make it shine! :eek:
 
I hope they fix the backwards bluetooth import to my car (MINI Cooper, uses BMW iDrive). Instead of Bob Smith, all my names since 2.0.2 are being imported as Smith Bob.
 
infernohellion said:
First I thought the Copy & Paste isn't really necessary. But dang, the other day I had to send my friend my other friend phone number while my girlfriend was being very annoying (saying random numbers continuously to me). I now want it to more than anything.
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To go with the Tylenol commercial with the NASCAR drivers, Kevin Harvick "have you considered a different girlfriend?" j/k :)


As to the number of updates, so long as the updates are valuable the user community will continue to accept them, but if you get to the point where there are too many trivial updates (a different icon) on there own as opposed to being rolled up into one larger update then there is cause for concern. Not an iPhone owner and got a gen 2 Touch so not too many updates for me yet but a lack of updates can be just as bad on the support side as too many updates.
 
kornyboy said:
Wirelessly posted (iPhone: Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5F136 Safari/525.20)

I wonder what the hold up is on the background notifications. I guess it isn't working the way that Apple initially thought.
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No, it probably is working and apple has to break it before they can release it.
 
interesting but far to much negativity in this thread.

First in respect to the rapid updates, this is exactly what I want to see from Apple. Frankly it is a lot like the open source concept of release early and often. It is the best way to arrive at a stable platform under a tight schedule. The current release schedules indicate that Apple takes it's product seriously and wants good user experiences.

Second copy and paste will simply have to wait for more important things. The first of these would be stability of the software especially Safari. After 2.1 the only app that seemed to get worst was Safari. This and a few other issues must be fixed before going on to other features.

Third getting a full and robust Blutooth stack is way more important than copy and past. The real lack of a full BluTooth implementation means that developers are effective working with one or more hands tied behind their back. Such deficencies severly limit what is possible on iPhone.

Fourth the SDK has more than a few bugs that need to be stamped out. This is unfortunate as even rlextremely simple apps run into issues. This if you like apps on IPhone a new and more stable SDK is needed. In fact this should be #1 priority at Apple.

Fifth many of the apps on iPhone are not feature complete to the point that they work well with their Mac OS counter parts. Contacts is a good example here. I've reverted to entering all my data on my Mac to make sure I don't need to do it twice. I realize we will never have 100% parity but common things need to be addressed such as choosing to display personal name or company name.

Sixth iPhone is crying out for a scripting environment. Preferrably Python. Yeah I know all about the need for control at Apple but frankly they need to grow up. Not every app need justifies the development on Objective C.

In any event I hope this points out why many of us like the frequent releases. Slot of things need to be fixed. Further when it comes to new features many of us want real meat in those features and not the limited utility of copy & paste.

My IPhone 3G has come a very long way since I picked it up. That is a positive! What isn't so positive is that the basic apps have a ways to go to be considered stable and feature complete. So yeah Apple bring on the updates and make the core solid.


Dave
 
Wingsy said:
I want missed call reminder beeps like I've had with every phone I've owned in the past several years. And reminders for email and messages too. And I want to choose my own type of sound, and turn it on or off for each service, and set the delay time between reminders. Am I asking too much?
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Push notification is not a replacement for back ground apps!

I just wanted to clear that up as push notification is only useful in eliminating the need for one type of background app. That being apps that communicate with network based services like AIM.

The problem is there are or is a huge potential for back ground apps that might not even need a network connection. For example:

Let's say you wants an advance program that interfaces to Blutooth hardware to monitor your workout. Yeah like the Nike thing but with more data such as heart rate and otherthings. The ideal situation here is to run an app in back ground. Let it continue to collect data while you go at it listening to music or watching a video.

When one thinks about it there are all sorts of things that could be done in back ground just like on a regular computer. No surprise there as this is a very small computer. The thing is just because they run in back ground does not automatically imply battery drain in excess or massive RAM usage. It is all in the programming and having an OS that can manage the back ground apps correctly.

In any event I don't want people to think of back ground apps as huge performance damaging, network communicating, RAM clogging junk. There is the potential for a lot of interesting apps that could benefit from running in background that would have nothing to do with push.

Dave
 
Safari Crashes

I really hope this next update fixes how often iPhones Safari crashes. It crashes for no reason at all. Especially when posting on forums such as this or apples very own support forum. My phone crashed while posting a comment about the Safari crashing on apples forum.
 
nickelcokes said:
I'd really like the iPhone to clean it's own damn screen. I'm tired of wiping it down with my shirt! Do you think they could do that in a firmware update, or will that be a third-gen hardware feature?
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Just get the anti-glare screen cover from Power Support. Totally solves that problem, I haven't needed the cloth since I got that.
 
Daniel0418 said:
I really hope this next update fixes how often iPhones Safari crashes. It crashes for no reason at all. Especially when posting on forums such as this or apples very own support forum. My phone crashed while posting a comment about the Safari crashing on apples forum.
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At least it's consistent... (I have the same issue)

I wish Apple would just implement C/P just so the whining stops.
 
i want push so i can be always connected to aim.... but also i wanna see what apple has up there sleeves and how they are gunna deal with the t-mobile android
 
I would like a cancel button for text messages. As of now, there's no stopping a text from sending once you hit send.
 
Hooka said:
Apple can't do anything right the first time these days. If you all would take a step back and look at the recent history with Apple and their product releases and see they have not been up to par.
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Yeah, you're right. Apple's losing it! They never had to update software until just recently. I remember using classic OS 7.0, 8.0, 9.0 and never requiring any kind of update at all, and I'm still using OS X 10.0 because it quite simply puts that bug-riddled, bloated Leopard to shame.

And hardware? The combo of the original '01 iPod and iTunes 1.0 is still the best and they should have stuck with the gumdrop iMacs and the multi-color iBooks.

Man, can't Apple just go back to batting a 1000 for us like the old days?
 
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