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Apple Seeds iPhone Firmware 2.2 Beta 1
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It's amazing that the iPhone platform is slightly over a year old at this point and people are still screaming about every little feature they don't have as if it's been decades. Apple just brought a ton of new features to the iPhone 3G and people and still complaining about the little things.
In Apple's defense, implementing copy and paste is not nearly as easy as it sounds. In OS X, the clipboard is fairly complex and can hold multiple versions of a given thing once copied to it. If you, for example, highlight a file in the Finder and copy it and then try to paste that in to TextEdit or BBEdit or another Finder location, different things happen. Did you ever consider that or how it works? In TextEdit, you might get the contents of the file. In another Finder window, you get a copy of the file. In BBEdit, you get the name of the file.
See, when you copy something, the Finder creates multiple versions of it behind-the-scenes. Whether you're dealing with graphics or text or music, there are multiple different versions things being "copied." When you request that an application paste something from the clipboard, it looks for the most appropriate version of the copied data on the clipboard it can handle and uses it (assuming it's available--if not, it needs to know what to do next.)
Now, scale that down to a phone and consider some of the issues that need to be figured out in an environment like the iPhone's. I don't think Apple's stalling or playing games when they say it's going to take some time to implement and I doubt if the UI is the biggest hurdle (which everyone seems overly focused on.) There's a lot to sort out, and if it's done wrong, it's going to cause more headaches than not having that feature at all.
And BTW, if you want to see copy and paste done wrong, play around with Windows for a while. Once you've experienced the occasional annoyances caused by badly implemented copy and paste features, you won't keep screaming for Apple to hurry up and do it right now. Calm down and let them do it right.
I don't leave my phone lying around anywhere! Keep it in your pocket for god's sake.
Just kidding. That would be a good option for many people, I'm sure. Where the heck do you leave your phone lying around unattended, though?
Something simple
A simple new feature they could add to appease me, and I'm sure a lot of other people like me, is the ability to set a background image on the springboard. That's the only reason I decided to jailbreak my iPhone previously, not for the apps but for the wallpaper. Sad, huh?
A couple of other neat features would be the ability to use a contact's ringtone as their text message alert tone, and the ability to "lock" certain applications. I still have people that must play with my iPhone, I would love to not have to stand over them while they play with my phone to make sure they don't go into text messages or my contacts. It's the little things that matter the most to me.
Finally, lag. Good gravy I can't wait until that is fixed!
Plastyk!
--EDIT--
1 more thing... the ability to tell the phone that I don't want to join a specific wireless network and it remembers that. We have a filtered wifi connection here at work that cuts out a lot of my favorite sites (joystiq for example) and I have to tell the phone every time that I don't want to join that same network? Sure, turning off the wifi on the phone is an option, but I shouldn't have to do that!
A simple new feature they could add to appease me, and I'm sure a lot of other people like me, is the ability to set a background image on the springboard. That's the only reason I decided to jailbreak my iPhone previously, not for the apps but for the wallpaper. Sad, huh?
A couple of other neat features would be the ability to use a contact's ringtone as their text message alert tone, and the ability to "lock" certain applications. I still have people that must play with my iPhone, I would love to not have to stand over them while they play with my phone to make sure they don't go into text messages or my contacts. It's the little things that matter the most to me.
Finally, lag. Good gravy I can't wait until that is fixed!
Plastyk!
--EDIT--
1 more thing... the ability to tell the phone that I don't want to join a specific wireless network and it remembers that. We have a filtered wifi connection here at work that cuts out a lot of my favorite sites (joystiq for example) and I have to tell the phone every time that I don't want to join that same network? Sure, turning off the wifi on the phone is an option, but I shouldn't have to do that!
My first year with apple products...
I know this thread is about the new firmware, but I see a lot of people bashing apple. Well I switched to mac about 3 months before leopard. I bought a 24 iMac after goofing off with a buddies. I rushed into getting a Blk Macbook about a 9 months after. Inbetween Airport extreme and I forgot it all started with a 60GB BLK iPod. and lastly a iPhone 3G. That's my history with apple.
So in about a years time I layed down some serious cash. So I apprechate the updates. It lets me know that they care about the products. In this turn-a-round, throw away society that we live in I feel I won't have to pass on my hardware and upgrade Like I did with several Dell machines.
As far as complaints with iPhone 3G yes push would be nice of coarse att will loose the text plan cash because you'll be able to use AIM. Although I'm sure this has nothing to do with the prolonging of it. Copy and paste a useful tool should be able to code that quick so what's the hold up.
what I would like to see is a voice mail app that allows you to create greetings with garageband how cool would that be? Video capture , and 3G (not that it's apples fault). I see a lot of iPhones in central VA and no talk 3G as far as I have heard.
So thank you Apple for updating so often!
I know this thread is about the new firmware, but I see a lot of people bashing apple. Well I switched to mac about 3 months before leopard. I bought a 24 iMac after goofing off with a buddies. I rushed into getting a Blk Macbook about a 9 months after. Inbetween Airport extreme and I forgot it all started with a 60GB BLK iPod. and lastly a iPhone 3G. That's my history with apple.
So in about a years time I layed down some serious cash. So I apprechate the updates. It lets me know that they care about the products. In this turn-a-round, throw away society that we live in I feel I won't have to pass on my hardware and upgrade Like I did with several Dell machines.
As far as complaints with iPhone 3G yes push would be nice of coarse att will loose the text plan cash because you'll be able to use AIM. Although I'm sure this has nothing to do with the prolonging of it. Copy and paste a useful tool should be able to code that quick so what's the hold up.
what I would like to see is a voice mail app that allows you to create greetings with garageband how cool would that be? Video capture , and 3G (not that it's apples fault). I see a lot of iPhones in central VA and no talk 3G as far as I have heard.
So thank you Apple for updating so often!
Have you ever used C&P on a BlackBerry? I don't think it needs to be that complex. Grab text, pop it somewhere else. Simple. They could just dumb it down for the iPhone's OSX.
First, do you really want a dumbed down copy and paste?
Secondly, you make it sound simple by citing an example that is simple. What if you're pasting that text into a location that doesn't typically accept text? Do you want the iPhone to ignore you or do you want it to be smart enough to adapt? What if you're trying to paste graphic data into an email? Are you just out of luck because that's not text?
So I just bought a brand new car and the dealer comes up to me and say, "Oh by the way the manufacturer is still working on the design for the break lights, so they aren't installed yet. But they're coming soon." I just smile and say, "Oh don't worry I still have all the rest of the car to play with."
I WANT MY WHOLE CAR!!
The problem with Running apps in the background is the fact that the iPhone runs out of RAM quite quickly. Imagine how slow your iPhone would be if you had a ton of stuff running all the time. The home button quits almost every App except for Safari, Mail, iPod and Clock I believe. It's no surprise that they don't want a bunch of processes clogging up the CPU and RAM.
Not really. Having the ability to choose something other than plain black backdrop for icons should be dead simple to implement and goes along way towards people customizing their iPhones.
Same goes for icons. I've been frustrated with the redundant look of iPhone icons from day 1. The fact is I still find myself scrutinizing them before picking the one I want, and this is after having owned the phone a year. The Mail, Stocks, Weather, Photo and Safari icons all have basically the same sky blue color. Photos and Weather have a yellow circle in the middle, too. The Phone App and SMS are the same green. Give us the ability to customize these and allow icon transparency so they all aren't the same rounded rectangular shape, Apple.
Have you seen the app that allows copy and paste - If not, google it - I can't remember the exact name. A developer spent a lot of time thinking through the various barriers and proposed solutions and even came up with a way for third party apps to share a common area on the phone and to copy and paste between them (which Apple "fixed" with 2.1). The base coding is already available for this implementation across the iPhone OS. Although I defintely understand the difficulty with such coding, it is not impossible.
***UPDATE*** App name is MagicPad I believe...
I personally love the Apple GUI. Although I think there should be some ability to customize icons, I like the rounded edges; It gives some consistency to the GUI.
Self-cleaning glass treatments currently only work outdoors in UVA light. Scientists are currently working to get these working with indoor light. If they succeed, I'm sure it will be in the pipeline for future hardware revisions.
Apple's Newton OS did it fine without any buttons in 1993. Hold down to start highlighting, then drag to the edge of the screen. Drag the clipping from the edge of the screen to paste. They just need the highlighting to start when you are still for a while with the magnifying glass on.
I would really like a three finger pinch to copy (pick it up) and the reverse to paste (put it down). A cool effect would show the item being picked up and put down.
Lousy analogy.
It would work if you had just bought a new car that was radically different in design from previous cars and had only been out for a little over a year. Oh, and if cars themselves had only been around for a couple decades.
Comparing a relatively revolutionary product like the iPhone in a relatively young market like cell phones, to the auto market that has been around for ages is meaningless.
I would like better implementation of MMS. Now that the phone is stable with 2.1, we start throwing in these 'other' features. Push notification would be great too.
Hey guys, I'm new to the program...I payed my 99 bucks but for some reason I'm seeing the old page which has the "newest sdk" I am not seeing anything new.... was this seeded to all developers?
Aren't they linked?
Maybe not Copy/Paste but the function in iPhone OS terms is more User initiated Push isn't it.
In that a user would select some info then push it to another app. Then Data selectors help the user select the info when it's a common thing, or some sort of general selection ability for when it's not.
It shouldn't be that hard to use a gesture to do the selecting, but it does need developers to have the tools in the kit to handle it their apps.