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Apple Seeds Mac OS X 10.5.1 9B13
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Tons of people thought that, even enough so as to make threads about waiting for 10.5.1 before release...
Thankfully, my Mac's bugs aren't too bad
Some encounter really long waits for the repair to be complete. Some take less time. Just a bug on some machines, I have a 7yr mac as stated in my signiture. Just meets the requirements for leopard. Maybe not in higher end comps but a few been having the problem with this.
I strongly disagree - look at MR's own forums on problems folks are having with Leopard. I'm not talking about 3rd party apps, but basic system functionality that runs the gamut from user interface issues down to problems with using Apple's own hardware. A bug is something that diminishes the user experience, either because of actual coding faults or poor planning and execution of features.
There's a lot more to Leopard that could have been ironed out before it hit Gold Master (excuse me, Golden Master) status if Apple hadn't been phreaking out on the iPhone. And yay for the iPhone, maybe once I see how rich of an SDK is going to be provided and how open it will be to 3rd party development in February, I'll finally applaud Apple for creating it. But Apple has been off its mark this year, Leopard is one product that suffers, and depending on what you're counting one could say that its hardware is also suffering too.
That's speculation. People feel that Leopard is the pinnacle of OS 10 and believe that the only way to make things better is a major, major update. Also, they're running out of non-lame sounding cats.
If Apple hadn't been phreaking out on the iPhone then Leopard would have probably been released in June likely as not with more bugs than now.
Leopard is not the pinnacle of OSs designed around this format (mouse and keyboard etc.), but the next evolutionary step could co-exist with a revolutionary OS (touch based?) as soon as 10.6
Leopard is not the pinnacle of OSs designed around this format (mouse and keyboard etc.), but the next evolutionary step could co-exist with a revolutionary OS (touch based?) as soon as 10.6
I did not mean in anyway that I felt Leopard is the pinnacle of OS 10, but that some people do (or did before it came out). The next OS being based on touch hardward is a neat idea. Probably not going to be the next major release though.
Touch
hmmm....touch. That would certainly make my screen very sticky while I surf and eat chicken wings.
Leopard is not the pinnacle of OSs designed around this format (mouse and keyboard etc.), but the next evolutionary step could co-exist with a revolutionary OS (touch based?) as soon as 10.6
hmmm....touch. That would certainly make my screen very sticky while I surf and eat chicken wings.
I'm sorry, I should write: "the not transparent menubar when it should because you have all the system requirement needed bug"
It had been largely discussed in the Apple forum, here for example.
However, I hope they will give users the possibility to choose this feature as they wish, in the System Preferences.
I'm sorry, I should write: "the not transparent menubar when it should because you have all the system requirement needed bug"
It had been largely discussed in the Apple forum, here for example.
However, I hope they will give users the possibility to choose this feature as they wish, in the System Preferences.
If you're referring to the GeForce FX 5200 or its mobile variant, then I have some bad news for you:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306894
"Some graphics cards, such as an NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200, may not have the necessary OpenGL capabilities to display a translucent menu bar even though they are compatible with Core Image. Those cards should render most effects, but not the translucent menu bar."
On October 30, an Apple Support rep told me that a bug was responsible for the opaque menu bar, and that in "two to four weeks," 10.5.1 would fix it. The Support Doc, updated 6 November, makes it seem as though this is no longer the case.
I guess you never been a programmer. A bug is a behaviour or fault that prevents the software from performing to the written specifications.
Last I look you were not one of the writers of that specification/requirement list.
Only when software does not work as specified, that it can be considered a bug. It has nothing to do with people expectations.
Frankly, if you did that, you were... getting ahead of yourself, to put it nicely (some would say "just stupid", but I understand getting excited about stuff).
Never, never, never buy anything counting on preview "possible" feature lists. Ever. Period. From anybody. Never. Never. Never.
Have I said that enough?
Anyway, I think the outrage over this issue is a bit bizarre. I mean, seriously. Running Time Machine backups, particularly the initial one, over your wireless connection will be stupid slow; it's a metric assload of data. If you're doing anything else at the time, you're going to be suffering with the latency to the point of madness. And if you're just going to let it run while you aren't using the machine, then why not just plug in the ethernet cable and leave it alone?
I just don't get it, frankly. It smacks of stupid, ill-considered knee-jerk whining.
I'm sorry, I should write: "the not transparent menubar when it should because you have all the system requirement needed bug"
It had been largely discussed in the Apple forum, here for example.
However, I hope they will give users the possibility to choose this feature as they wish, in the System Preferences.
Agreed, and it should be fixed, not sure about its priority since there are more serious issues that actually affect the reliability of the system / data and some affect the key (promotional) feature of the OS.
Funny how it is a bug when some people are crying that they hate the transparent menu bar. LOL.
Choice is good, lack of choice is a decision, ussually a temporary one.
Just updated to 10.5.1. Safari and iChat stopped working saying this (the same for iChat):
Lame
UPD: Preview, Adress Book, Automator, Dictionary, Font Book have the same issues. F**k.
Probably done on purpose, to scare people away who download new versions only to post on MacRumors. Everything is disabled except software that had bugs that were fixed. That is what these developer seeds are there for: To check whether everything is right before 10.5.1 is released to the public.
Frankly, if you did that, you were... getting ahead of yourself, to put it nicely (some would say "just stupid", but I understand getting excited about stuff).
Never, never, never buy anything counting on preview "possible" feature lists. Ever. Period. From anybody. Never. Never. Never.
Have I said that enough?
Anyway, I think the outrage over this issue is a bit bizarre. I mean, seriously. Running Time Machine backups, particularly the initial one, over your wireless connection will be stupid slow; it's a metric assload of data. If you're doing anything else at the time, you're going to be suffering with the latency to the point of madness. And if you're just going to let it run while you aren't using the machine, then why not just plug in the ethernet cable and leave it alone?
I just don't get it, frankly. It smacks of stupid, ill-considered knee-jerk whining.
In my book you are both right.
He got ahead of him self but Apple did announce it as a feature and at the last minute pull-it out.
If (big if) he purchased it after it was posted that the feature was removed, then he also failed to check.
Apple already stated that they are working on it, and it looks like Leopard changes and Airport changes.
While I myself do not need this feature, if it was there it would provide additional features and flexibility to connect the disk to one desktop and share or to connect to the Airport.
PS. If you do your full backup while USB/Firewire connected, depending on how much you change every hour after that, the wireless backup takes a minute or two, which is not bad at all if you consider the flexibility it is providing.
If you are edditing multi-gig movies every hour of your day, you should be using a wired network anyway.
Sorry, but no. My opinion is that ADC members should adhere to their NDA and keep their mouths shut. I believe it is within the guidelines for me to express that opinion here just as it is within the guidelines for you to disagree.
Personally I found this useful and now I know not to install this seed. I am an ADC member and I don't see how this violates the NDA?
I agree with you, but ...... the issue is between him/her and Apple, we should not really be involved, we are not vigilates.
However you are in your right to report the NDA issue to Apple.
My point was to make sure the poster was aware of his/her responsibilities in the matter. It was not an attempt at enforcement. I agree that is solely within Apple's purview.
Can this thread be not about that one user and arguments over NDA? He's clearly not a developer and not violating any NDA, but just a user who stumbled on a developer seed and realized first hand what developer seeds really are (not updates).