My SL is working flawlessly, not a beach ball in site since installation. I don't deny that 7 is (finally) a great OS for MS, but what the hell makes it "better" than SL?
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My SL is working flawlessly, not a beach ball in site since installation. I don't deny that 7 is (finally) a great OS for MS, but what the hell makes it "better" than SL?
Snow Leopard is still bad
Snow Leopard is the first time I have regretted owning a Mac.
The system slows down to a crawl, requiring reboots for every few hours of use. Tiger and Leopard would run for months without a reboot. I have spent hours online researching tweaks and fixes, with very little improvement in performance or stability. If I wanted to fight my computer instead of use it, I would have stayed with a PC.
Ironic that Windows is now MORE stable than OS X.
Some people here don't seem to have any problems with SL. You are lucky. This forum and every other forum online demonstrates widespread continuing problems with SL.
Snow Leopard is the first time I have regretted owning a Mac.
The system slows down to a crawl, requiring reboots for every few hours of use. Tiger and Leopard would run for months without a reboot. I have spent hours online researching tweaks and fixes, with very little improvement in performance or stability. If I wanted to fight my computer instead of use it, I would have stayed with a PC.
Ironic that Windows is now MORE stable than OS X.
Some people here don't seem to have any problems with SL. You are lucky. This forum and every other forum online demonstrates widespread continuing problems with SL.
I think it's just people who go to forum sites that are unlucky with snow leopard. I know a few dozen people who has snow leopard that live near me (including 2 businesses) and not one of them have any problems. I don't have problems either. I would say that the people with problems are unlucky as opposed to the people with no problems being lucky.
Cause your Mac might have developed hardware issues after you installed SL....why don't you go back to Leopard and see if you have the same issues?
Whoa, no there's no need for rush opinions. I've been using macs since I've been born and have never received even one bug/virus. I'm up to date now with Snow Leopard and have found my experiences nothing less than completely amazing.
On the other hand, I've had my share of pcs too. Before VMWare and Parallels came out I had a pc set up next to my mac. It gave me the worse experiences I've ever had on a computer. Windows 7 is better now, but that's only due to Microsoft trying to mend it's tattered but still widely known reputation. They gave Windows 7 a mac like appearance and upped the stability a bit. Though they have yet to be on par with Mac.
-Gan
Could be coincidence.
Or a driver issue. Using any 3rd party drivers for mice, printers etc?
Could also be a hardware issue that is triggered by using SL. These things happen. For instance, it could be a faulty 2nd CPU core that only causes crashes when the core is used more often. After all, SL is supposed to make more use of multithreading.
It's most probably not SL as such. Millions of people are running it without frequent crashes and freezes.
Nothing, you're talking to an MS bot.
Strange that this isn't happening for everyone else. So it MUST be SL, right? As usual, you might wanna try a clean reinstall. And this time you had better check if the problem occurs after installing 3rd party drivers or software.
If it happens on a crisp + clean installation you might wanna call up Apple for a hardware replacement.
I remember reading about some issues when Leopard was released, too. No one yelling here seems to recall that. This time more people are complaining simply because more people own a Mac... Have you had a look at how many people are complaining about issues on their Windows computers? It's like gazillions. Compared to that the number of SL issues is tiny.
Firstly, I should have said 500 MB of swap, not GBs.
Thinking about it tonight I've realized the problem PDFs areprobably exclusively of scans on my Epson multiple-printer, taken via the epson software utility. Mostly of sheet music.
I should try using another program for the scanning, or another printer/scanner.
I hope that's it, because I'll sometimes get 2 minutes of beachball and 100,000 page outs just opening one of the files in question.
One of these days, Apple will get around to working on that half-assed Cisco VPN Client of theirs. Perhaps 10.6.3 will address this.
Some people may think it's negative because it's taking a while to get it out, or that Apple is still releasing seeds with known issues, etc. On the other hand there are always some people who look at anything in a negative light.
I think you misunderstand the meaning of seeding to developers. These seeds are not for end-users, they are for developers so that these problems can be solved. First a problem is identified, then accepted as a problem, then it goes on the list of things to do for the next seed. Which is seeded to developers so that they may work on solving known issues. So when you say "Apple is still releasing seeds with known issues", well thats the idea, its not a problem, its how the problem gets solved.
Gandolfmatt said:
A bug and virus are not the same thing. A bug is a side effect of software that is functioning as it was programmed to be, though that code was not written correctly and as a result does not work as expected. Viruses on the other hand are complete programs written by horrid people with the intent of causing problems and grief for other computer users.
What the hell are you talking about? Any 8300 Nvidia series GPU or newer supports OpenGL 3.2. The same deals with AMD ATi in their series Radeon HD 2400 Pro or newer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units
I have no idea what most of you are talking about when you refer to problems with snow leopard. I have not had one single program crash since switching from leopard to sl. My main browser is still firefox and it used to constantly crash in leopard. 10.6.2 has been much faster than 10.5.8 and much more stable for me. Im running an alu unibody macbook 2.0 ghz late 08
1. Many people report problems after SL install.
2. Many people report no problems after SL install.
Possible causes:
* People reporting problems with SL are delusional.
* People reporting problems with SL had a hardware problem develop exactly at the moment of SL install.
* People reporting problems with SL are just lying bastards who troll Mac forums because they need a hobby and/or are paid by MS.
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[insert other conspiracy theories here]
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Or SL has bugs that are latent on some machines but highly problematic on other machines. For people who "upgraded" to SL only to find their Mac experience severely downgraded, this is very frustrating.
I'm not yelling. I'm simply reporting something inconsistent with your experience.
Come on point three! 10.6.2 is sucking down battery like it's free.
PS: some stability would be nice.
PS: some stability would be nice.
I think you completely misunderstand what I said. It had nothing to do with the definition of a seed, with which I'm quite familiar.
It IS faster...
I made a bit of a joke about Safari being snappier but OMG it is. From a cold boot Safari loaded in a bounce and a half, and Mail in two... iTunes is still a dog. Sadly I do not have 64 extensions ... I do wish Apple would turn that feature on... I have a 2.8 Extreme for Peet's sake.
I made a bit of a joke about Safari being snappier but OMG it is. From a cold boot Safari loaded in a bounce and a half, and Mail in two... iTunes is still a dog. Sadly I do not have 64 extensions ... I do wish Apple would turn that feature on... I have a 2.8 Extreme for Peet's sake.
SL Requires "Raid" To Kill The Bugs
Worst Mac OS release ever. Even more ironic that when it was being hyped it was all about no new features but "under the hood changes" to make the OS faster and more stable.
EPIC FAIL!!!!
Worst Mac OS release ever. Even more ironic that when it was being hyped it was all about no new features but "under the hood changes" to make the OS faster and more stable.
EPIC FAIL!!!!
If your computer does that there is something seriously wrong - get it fixed. Either hardware issue with some extra hardware you have, or a software issue with particular software you have installed? I'd take it into an Apple store to have it looked at next time you're near one.
I haven't seen a kernel panic in years on a fairly stock install and Snow Leopard has been rock solid for me.
Worst Mac OS release ever. Even more ironic that when it was being hyped it was all about no new features but "under the hood changes" to make the OS faster and more stable.
EPIC FAIL!!!!
I think ultimately it was about performance but not in the traditional sense or just refining code, but through their implementation of OpenCL and GrandCentral. The technology would allow software to better utilise multiple cores and therefor run faster by doing many things concurrently. But in making this technology work a lot of changes would have to be made to critical parts of the kernel, like say the scheduler. Now that, that technology is in place the potential for software to use this and get more out of the hardware is there but what you got to understand is that this is a new technology and nothing like this has really been done before on a commercial OS so Apple are trending on new grounds here. These changes in the kernel have likely had adverse effects on scheduling and so fourth. A problem the developers will have to learn how to refine themselves as there are likely little reading material on how to solve these problems given its a relatively new concept. Give it time and the next OS will solve many of these problems.
Windows on the other hand has not attempted this technology. Microsoft have finally sorted some of their problems out, but they still are not willing to drop some of its archaic concepts, like the registry and shared DLLs which still exist. Once microsoft take it upon themselves to implement OpenCL (if they ever do) and their own dispatcher similar to GrandCentral then they too are likely to go through many problems on their OS which they too will have to learn to solve.
Snow Leopard was absolutely horrible on my MacBook Core 2 Duo (Early 2007) when it was released. It was slow, unstable, battery life was bad and I experienced many of the same problems others have reported here. That was with two clean installs, a hard drive swap and upgrades to 10.6.1.
Since 10.6.2, its been fantastic. Its fast and very responsive. I couldnt go back to 10.5.
Apple must have upgraded drivers that were specific to my machine. I hope they manage to do that with 10.6.3 for those of you that are still having problems.
Since 10.6.2, its been fantastic. Its fast and very responsive. I couldnt go back to 10.5.
Apple must have upgraded drivers that were specific to my machine. I hope they manage to do that with 10.6.3 for those of you that are still having problems.
Looks like it's supporting all but "Shading Language Version: 1.3.0" on my ATI 4870.
Also has a new kernel build date:
Darwin sekhmet.local 10.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.3.0: Tue Jan 19 17:19:02 PST 2010; root:xnu-1504.3.6~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
Also has a new kernel build date:
Darwin sekhmet.local 10.3.0 Darwin Kernel Version 10.3.0: Tue Jan 19 17:19:02 PST 2010; root:xnu-1504.3.6~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
am I the only one who has a SL that works till I've installed it (10.6.0)?
And now with 10.6.2 is even better...
Macintosh always worked for me... without problems...
(Instead of Windows 7, which gave to me his first BSOD just yesterday...)
Microsoft Sucks...
And now with 10.6.2 is even better...
Macintosh always worked for me... without problems...
(Instead of Windows 7, which gave to me his first BSOD just yesterday...)
Microsoft Sucks...