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Apple Seemingly Unable to Recover Data From 2018 MacBook Pro With Touch Bar When Logic Board Fails
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I'd like to but Apple killed one of the better options out there.....
Exactly. The solution is to do backups in Time Machine.
I find it hard to accept that the solution to restoring soldered on SSD's is to back them up using Time Machine which will soon require a third party to support Time Machine and offer an external back up option to get the job done. Since Apple discontinued Time Capsule and AirPort Extreme. Once the current stock of TC and AE are gone they're gone.
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Still you must have backup your data in any situation, also i work in tech support and even damages Apple
Motherboard usually work with target mode.
Really? What is it for an Early-2014 11-inch MacBook Air? The SSD in mine failed, and Apple want £524.40 (parts & labour) to replace it.
But it’s a portable device, what happens if they’re working remotely or on location?
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Of course but it’s a portable device. It could be used remotely, on location etc. Maybe you’ve just spent 10 hours on a plane working on something super important. It’s just such a sloppy move by Apple.
You know what, **** soldered down components. That is not cool and I could care less for half a centimeter thicker notebook.
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This is an annoying issue for non-techs I suppose but man... back up your data. It's insanity not to at this point. If you can afford one of these machines you can afford plenty of options.
My life is on my laptop at this point: all my photos, videos, journals, personal correspondence, and my professional work. It would be like a fire burning down my house and taking everything with it to lose that. As such:
1. Time Machine backup on the network that's shared with my whole family.
2. Time Machine on an external drive (primarily for fast recovery should I need it).
3. Time Machine at my office. (A luxury, but we have a Synology running there and it's nice to have my data offsite.)
4. Arq + Backblaze as a last resort.
While this is overkill, I have the means. However, having a backup at home or the office as well as something offsite is a must if you really want to protect your data.
If you're needing to take your laptop to Apple to pull data off I'd classify you as irresponsible and basically going in there on a wing and a prayer anyway.
(I still think the glued on SSD is complete crap, especially considering it isn't glued on the entry-level machines. I'd like for someone to enumerate a legitimate reason for this aside from making upgrades possible. Not only is it greedy, but it makes to the whole environmental commitment look a little two-faced.)
My life is on my laptop at this point: all my photos, videos, journals, personal correspondence, and my professional work. It would be like a fire burning down my house and taking everything with it to lose that. As such:
1. Time Machine backup on the network that's shared with my whole family.
2. Time Machine on an external drive (primarily for fast recovery should I need it).
3. Time Machine at my office. (A luxury, but we have a Synology running there and it's nice to have my data offsite.)
4. Arq + Backblaze as a last resort.
While this is overkill, I have the means. However, having a backup at home or the office as well as something offsite is a must if you really want to protect your data.
If you're needing to take your laptop to Apple to pull data off I'd classify you as irresponsible and basically going in there on a wing and a prayer anyway.
(I still think the glued on SSD is complete crap, especially considering it isn't glued on the entry-level machines. I'd like for someone to enumerate a legitimate reason for this aside from making upgrades possible. Not only is it greedy, but it makes to the whole environmental commitment look a little two-faced.)
Thing is, I don't think it brings anymore thinness given the state of the entry-level 13" machines. (That was the case in the 2016 models anyway.)
It does not matter which part of the computer fails, if you backup your data.
And since you don't know if the SSD will fail or not, you have to backup your data anyway.
All this port does, is give people a false impression of safety.
I agree, its stops other from accessing the same port, I'd say it's a design feature. People should really learn to backup!
One thing after another.
I am tired of people playing the abused girlfriend with Apple and blaming themselves or others (just backup!) for Apple’s failings.
This autumn, if this does appear to be true, it looks like I will finally leave the macOS/iOS platform. Android isn’t perfect but the flexibility will really be welcome when not having to deal with iCloud/iTunes. I was ready this year to go ~£3,000-£4,000 on a new MacBook until I found out all the issues regarding cooling, now I won’t even wait for next years.
I am tired of people playing the abused girlfriend with Apple and blaming themselves or others (just backup!) for Apple’s failings.
This autumn, if this does appear to be true, it looks like I will finally leave the macOS/iOS platform. Android isn’t perfect but the flexibility will really be welcome when not having to deal with iCloud/iTunes. I was ready this year to go ~£3,000-£4,000 on a new MacBook until I found out all the issues regarding cooling, now I won’t even wait for next years.
no, Apple just don't need to solder SSD just to increase income. This would solve the problem itself.
I encountered a dead SSD on my MacBook Air several months ago, luckily I had a recent Time Machine backup so I lost almost no data.
You can call me a moaner, but after that incident, I am extra paranoid about changes like this.
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It is sad to realise this is the world we are living in -- while organisations and some companies are working hard to reduce the environmental impact of waste generated by the human, companies like Apple produces more landfill and design products intentionally so that it will cease function after 3-5 years, creating even more waste.
Quite true, but why not fail safe and NOT solder the SSD in, a crass move by Apple!
lol.. you mean they've fun outta money for external drives. "oh well,,, i was really hoping'
At least the glass screen and case is recyclable even if the components aren't. Perhaps that's all they care about.
I was even asked to pay $860 AUD (about 70% of my computer cost!) to replace a failed SSD. Luckily, I got the replacement for free, or I would've bought a new computer one year ago.
I love this comment. Hell they should have had a mesh option by now. Instead they closed the router shop.
Actual professionals back up all data.
Actual professionals want their data under lock and key in the event something bad happens, especially theft, where we worry about our livelihoods and the value of our work, for some being worth millions.
It looks like Apple took a step in the right direction for the proper demographic.
Actual professionals want their data under lock and key in the event something bad happens, especially theft, where we worry about our livelihoods and the value of our work, for some being worth millions.
It looks like Apple took a step in the right direction for the proper demographic.
Its completely different. A failed harddisk is the same as a failed SSD. But a failed computer does not render a harddisk unrecoverable. Yes, people should have multiple copies of the data but if the Mac fails, its more convenient just to swap the SSD or Harddisk over or to boot from it or have quick access to the data.
I know these new MBPs look better than my 2012 Classic, they are faster and thinner too.
But I’ve had zero problems with my classic machine, and everything was removable and upgradable. More ports is alwasy a plus too.
With the higher price tag of these new machines, and less ports, no SD card etc. makes me really reconsider replacing a 6 year old machine.
But I’ve had zero problems with my classic machine, and everything was removable and upgradable. More ports is alwasy a plus too.
With the higher price tag of these new machines, and less ports, no SD card etc. makes me really reconsider replacing a 6 year old machine.
Apple doesn't have to engineer a special port. Just have the failsafe non soldered SSD. That way when the mac fails, we can have quick access to the data without having to do a full restore. For some of us, time is money.