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Apple Sees U.S. Mac Shipments Drop 2.5% in 2Q15 Amid Larger Worldwide PC Shipment Decline
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Actually, according to the article Gartner _did_ provide world wide numbers, but Apple wasn't in the top five on Gartner's list and therefore not mentioned. Which is again strange, since on the IDC list, Apple is quite far ahead of number five and six (seems IDC published number six as well because 5 and 6 were very close).
Double strange, because historically Gartner used to produce numbers that made Apple look a lot better than IDC numbers. So these numbers seem to be not biased, but random.
If I remember right, it's exactly opposite. Gartner's numbers used to be better for Apple than IDC's.
As always, the real numbers are somewhere in the middle. Or higher. Or lower.
No personal knowledge, but a review on theregister had the headline "Oh, the pain!". Doesn't look like a reason to buy a new computer, and Microsoft seems to hand out free upgrades everywhere.
That's what many people don't get. Apple isn't interested in market share (which is _unit share_ that is they count computers sold) but in revenue and profit. Lenovo has to sell four of these cheap laptops to make as much revenue as a MacBook Air, and probably ten to make as much revenue as a 15" rMBP with all the extras you can buy.
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When Mini will be updated,
when we will have midtower with changeable graphic board,
then sales will be up I guess.
when we will have midtower with changeable graphic board,
then sales will be up I guess.
I wouldn't really tout a 4 year product compared to a device meant to replace a netbook?
People living outside the bubble cities on either coast won't understand, but the rest of the country is entering an economic funk. A decline in sales for discretionary consumer goods is one indicator that all is not well in the heartland. Internationally, look at commodity prices for oil, copper, steel, coal, do you see anything that signals economic expansion? Apple swims in the same ocean as all the other fish.
I thought he was saying it was a mistake to make it round
.And to other recent words in here: With MS shipping the new Office apps first on iOS and now first on OS X, really the only thing still blatantly missing is a touchscreen Mac. A Surface like because that product is amazing, as is its OS ... or was, the new one doesn't look so great, and a return to Mac wouldn't be a bad thing except for the touch factor. The new MacBook is fascinating for that connector; if they had -just- put one on each side, and made it slightly more powerful, and made it touch. Maybe next time?
For the actual subject I just can't find any surprise in me. The Mac offerings have started to get more expensive again, so that the laptop one wants is always ~$NZ4,500. I got a Surface Pro 2 instead for less than $NZ1,000 ... but would get a Mac equivalent, especially with boot camp in the mix, if they would just come up with one; iOS is not an option.
Just ordered my first windows computer since the first intel macbook (I got the black one). It's been more than 10 macbooks in a row, but finally I needed better video performance, and I got an alienware that has more gpu power than a mac pro and costs less than a macbook air with worse specs on everything else (and no gpu at all). Unfortunately, being a developer, i just needed real gpu power, and i feel like that's been totally ignored by apple
Soldered memory, downgrade "refreshes", deceptive shell-game pricing, unnecessary profit margin/cost cutting design decisions, and resulting lowered sales. All predicted when it was announced a bean counting numbers guy was appointed CEO. Now, to try and improve lagging sales figures, which was caused by the bean counting in the first place, the typical numbers guy move will be to double his bean counting efforts, resulting in even worse sales, and so it goes until the company is driven into the ground.
I haven't purchased a Macbook Pro nor iMac, and dissuaded family/friends from doing so, since the idiotic soldered memory decision alone, and my plans to update/replace my various 2011 Mac Mini did not happen after seeing how it was castrated. Lost sales due to a numbers CEO.
I haven't purchased a Macbook Pro nor iMac, and dissuaded family/friends from doing so, since the idiotic soldered memory decision alone, and my plans to update/replace my various 2011 Mac Mini did not happen after seeing how it was castrated. Lost sales due to a numbers CEO.
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Yeah, not only is the headline misleading, shareholders will care about total worldwide shipments, not just domestic. And according to IDC, Apple grew substantially. Not that I believe either of them, but MR got this one very wrong.
How do you explain HP, Dell, Toshiba, Asus, Acer and others having lower sales too?
Most of them DO let you expand RAM and replace hard drives.
Maybe "soldered components" isn't the problem after all.
Windows 8. And anticipation for upcoming Windows 10.
After Windows 10 is released we will see a major shift. Upon seeing the apparent direction Apple has taken (under Crook), I'm considering leaving Apple myself and going back to Windows.
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Windows 8 came out 2.5 years ago.
And I doubt the average consumer even knows about the upcoming Windows 10.
Hell... Windows 10 is supposed to be released in a couple weeks. The only reason I know about it is because I'm a geek.
I'm not sure Q2 2015 PC sales are down because of either of those things.
But my point was... Mac sales are up as high as 16% according to some of these analyst reports. And that's despite the "soldering of components"
Nope, sadly, it isn't; it may be a tiny bit faster in single-core mode, but waay slower for multi-core tasks. See, for example:
http://www.primatelabs.com/blog/2014/10/estimating-mac-mini-performance/
Windows 8 came out 2.5 years ago.
And I doubt the average consumer even knows about the upcoming Windows 10.
Hell... Windows 10 is supposed to be released in a couple weeks. The only reason I know about it is because I'm a geek.
I'm not sure Q2 2015 PC sales are down because of either of those things.
But my point was... Mac sales are up as high as 16% according to some of these analyst reports. And that's despite the "soldering of components"
You really had to think long and dig deep to find some desperate Apple marketing apologetic response, huh? Give it up.
You "doubt the average consumer even knows about Windows 10" (a major news event that's virtually impossible for anyone to not know about), but you think the average consumer knows about the fairly recent across the board soldered RAM decision in Apple Mac products? Nice Apple PR/marketing apologetic logic you got there.
Mac sales will continue to fall due to the combination of bean counting moves made by Tim Crook, not just soldered components.
Continue to fall?
Worldwide Mac Sales in the July Quarter:
July 2010 - 3.5 million Macs
July 2011 - 3.9 million Macs
July 2012 - 4.0 million Macs
July 2013 - 3.8 million Macs
July 2014 - 4.4 million Macs
July 2015 - 5.1 million Macs (IDC prediction)
I'm not seeing the pattern "continue to fall"
Yes... they had a small dip in 2013... but they certainly recovered in 2014.
If these analysts are anywhere close with their prediction... July 2015 will be a great quarter for the Mac.
Can you also fix the post title. Change it to
ACCORDING TO THE COMPLETE GUESSES OF SO CALLED ANALYSTS APPLE MAC SHIPMENTS ARE DOWN. Please note, they always say Apple is down just before Apple announce their quarter results.
That should cover it.
I did my part to help Apple computer sales. I absolutely freaking LOVE my new 12" MacBook 1.2GHz/512. It does everything I need it to do and it totally rocks when compared to my previous 11" MBA. I also had a 2014 13" MBP and it was nice, but way too heavy for my day-to-day travel needs. Also, I helped at least ten of my customers purchase new iMacs a and MacBook Pros in the last year.
Yeah, and it's gotten to the point where any low-end or even old/used Mac is more than powerful enough for most people. It's not like the mid-2000s, when upgrades actually meant something. I guess the hardware finally outran the software.
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