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the thing is that one compensates the other...

No revenue sharing means they get that money upfront (that is the carrier's subsidy). And I now the price is lower now, but that is just technology's nature.

Allegedly botched rollout and still 1 million sold in a weekend? Sounds like they'll have sold 5 million by the end of the month.

Expect a very smug Steve come MWSF keynote when he announces they actually got 2% marketshare in 2008. Don't expect him to point out that he wouldn't have come close to hitting the 10 million target without abandoning revenue sharing and permitting carrier subsidies, either.
 
It's not that amazing! The rollout of the first generation (US only) was 270.000 iPhones in the first days. And now 1 milion for the worldwide launch? But the first iPhone was in good supply, maybe if they had more available on all locations the figures would be probably more impressive indeed.

That's exactly what I thought.

How misleading!

This launch is available in 21 countries versus the first launch which was 1 country. With that in mind, I say the launch numbers are not that impressive.
 
Don't expect him to point out that he wouldn't have come close to hitting the 10 million target without abandoning revenue sharing and permitting carrier subsidies, either.
If I remember correctly, Apple never made a big deal out of this revenue sharing model. It's the press that made such a big deal out of it.

In fact, Apple came out and said that they were never married to any one carrier-vendor model.

So your accusation of smugness is a bit misplaced, don't you think?
 
Does anyone know how many of those download apps were paid versus free?

If only 10% of that were paid apps, that's 1mil. Now if I was able to get 1% of that number to download an application I've written and I charged $4.99 for it, that's almost $35,000 profit in one weekend alone!

I need to get off my butt and code some apps! :)
 
Think of how many more phones they could have sold if they servers didn't suck!

I'm waiting at least two weeks for them to get a handle on their servers and the pace at which the line moves. I'll probably get one the 25th or 26th.
 
I'll be getting one in as soon as carphone warehouse get more in!

Yeah - I got mine at Carphone Warehouse on Friday morning. It took the guy in front of me 10 minutes to purchase and sign a new contract. I started at around 8:15 and it took nearly 2 hours with the load on the system at that time. The staff at Carphone Warehouse were excellent during this though. Reading about other's experiences I think I got off lightly. So far all is working well though 3G coverage seems patchy around where I live. Can't wait to see what new apps appear and hope to start serious development when/if my application to the developer program is accepted.
 
The launch was truly pathetic...what was the point NOT telling everyone how many AT&T stores would actually get.

I waited 3 hours on Friday morning starting at 6am in an AT&T store and was told they had 30 with 2 broken and I didn't get my phone.

Following day at 5pm, I waited an hour in the busiest Apple store in Seattle area and got my phone.
 
Took me more than awhile to get my iTouch upgraded, but once, finished, I probably spent another $40 on apps, including Crash Bandicoot, Cro Mag, and Enigmo. Its convenient, fun, and inexpensive, and developers and Apple get the loot without a lot of overhead.

The games are addictive.

tom

Cool, the next time somebody complains on this forum that $99/year for MobileMe is too expensive I will reference your post reminding people that they are probably spending more money on their iPhone just for games and they doesn't include the phone plan. :D
 
They could have easily sold at least double as many if they hadn't allocated 90% of the phones to the US.

what makes you think they allocated 90% to usa?

there are no stats showing that. if so, please post the link
 
I think it would sell a lot better here in Canada if Rogers didn't set up the worst possible plans ever. But wow, one million in a weekend - that's a great feat for the iPhone everyone said wouild fail before release. :D

The Canadian Plans aren't the worst in the world. I was truly unhappy with the initial offering. 750 MB would have been impossible to use on the iPhone. But after Rogers caved and offered the 6GB for $30, I thought I could live with that. I was 5th in line at 7:45 AM on Friday. I got a $35 plan, plus the $15 iPhone value pack and the $30 data plan and I'm paying almost the same as my previous plan. My daytime minutes are far less, but I don't need 700 daytime minutes anymore. It's not unlimited data (which would be nice), but it's far better than some countries out there.

Canada always compares ourselves to the US, which you can do to a point. I understand that it costs alot more to operate in Canada, as we have a large land mass with a far fewer population than the US. Plus we also have very little competition, which sucks. I like Rogers, they have decent service and haven't had an issue. The only issue I have is the over priced products and services. It would be nice to have some new competition that can't be purchased by Rogers or Bell :p.
 
That's a big IF, considering that .Mac was nearly 4 years old and at the time of it's transition to MobileMe, it still had big reliability issues and system performance problems. Many of the issues that plagued .Mac were there from the beginning. Apple did very little to improve .Mac.

We will see if Apple is better with MobileMe.

The best service occurred when it was a "free for life or a couple of years whichever comes first" service called iTools.

I take your point, but if the question is whether Apple will make an effort to fix the problems we encountered in the first few days, I think the answer is clearly yes. BTW, I thought .Mac was pretty reliable, at least as reliable as any other online service I've bought over the years.
 
This launch is available in 21 countries versus the first launch which was 1 country. With that in mind, I say the launch numbers are not that impressive.

I went to the O2 store on saturday in Oxford to pick up a Samsung E250 (I want the iPhone on PAYG) and while I was waiting for 2-3 minutes 2 people went and asked about iPhone availability, none of whom looked geeky at all. I don't think anyone came to ask about any other phone in that timespan.

EDIT: I should add that I think that its worth waiting to see what Windows Mobile and Android bring out at the end of a year, but without a shadow of a doubt the iPhone 3G launch has been a resounding success (at least in terms of phones sold), and the bar looks to have been significantly raised for the competition to match.
 
not again with this one...

1 country with over 300M people. Now it is 21 counties with approximately 3-4 times the market size.

1 million iPhones is roughly 4 iphones each second for 3 days. That is impressive.

That's exactly what I thought.

How misleading!

This launch is available in 21 countries versus the first launch which was 1 country. With that in mind, I say the launch numbers are not that impressive.
 
The launch was truly pathetic...what was the point NOT telling everyone how many AT&T stores would actually get.

I waited 3 hours on Friday morning starting at 6am in an AT&T store and was told they had 30 with 2 broken and I didn't get my phone.

Following day at 5pm, I waited an hour in the busiest Apple store in Seattle area and got my phone.

The same was true at the original launch. The ATT store I was at only received 16 phones. The guy in front of my in line was friends w/ one of the clerks who told him the inventory level even though they were under strict orders not to tell people. The line ended up being over 75 long. I got the 2nd to last 8GB.

You are correct. It makes zero sense for the clerks not to be able to come out and tell people they don't need to bother waiting in line. But that is ATT's policy, not Apples. The Apple Store (in the same mall) had plenty phones btw even an hour after launch.
 
That is an average of 48k phones per country released in (21 country launch). That isn't all that impressive. Now if they sold about 480k per country, that would be impressive. Of course the distribution isn't even amongst all the countries, so the true figures per country may never be known.
 
That is an average of 48k phones per country released in (21 country launch). That isn't all that impressive. Now if they sold about 480k per country, that would be impressive. Of course the distribution isn't even amongst all the countries, so the true figures per country may never be known.

Not true. You would need to weight the populations to get a true average.
 
Agreed.

Steve is master marketer. He skillfully avoids telling the whole story at every keynote. Despite the half truths, loyalists still think he can do no wrong.

Well, loyalists so think because he is NOT doing wrong AT ALL. The iPhone 3G launch is the most successful launch of any portable phone in history, and represents the launch of a telephone that has revolutionized the whole market, sending seismic waves to those dinosaur competitors such as Nokia and Siemens.

In a nutshell, what do we have then?

- Macs growing at 3x the rate of the industry, and being already the leaders of the higher-end consumer market, without ANY compromises in terms of overall quality, reliability and design;
- iPods with an astounding lead in the music player market, with iTMS just mirroring that;
- the iPhone quickly to become the leader of the smartphone market in the world.

So what is he doing wrong? NOTHING. He is the best and most successful CEO of the world now, and by far the best CEO Apple has ever had.

And, of course: MICROSOFT IS DEAD with its ridiculous Windows Mobile.
 
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