Apple Sending iOS 5 to iPhone Assemblers at End of September, No Sign of Redesigned iPhone 5

[JMC08]

I say again:

Some of you guys can't be serious.

Did you not read the article about how strict apple is regarding keeping their new products secret? The iPad had more pre-release buzz than the new iPhone, and yet real pics of it came out just a day before the announcement. Since no one saw any real pics or had real evidence before then, does that mean there wasn't an iPad in existence?

This guy's source is someone who works at Apple who was specifically told to give him this info just so it could put more seeds of doubt into your heads. When the new product is unveiled, now you all will be even more elated than you previously would have been if you didn't hear this idiotic rumor. You will have even more allegiance to Apple because the idea that they 'came through' even after all the 4S rumors will be so fresh in your minds.

There will be a good upgrade, a true iPhone 5. Just relax and think about how much sense the above makes.

 

[premonition23]

I want Apple to keep the 3.5" screen because I think it is the perfect size. Jumbo Droid sizes are ridiculous. Even slightly larger screens compromise the dpi of the "Retina" display. I also don't want to retrain my thumbs to type on a slightly wider keyboard.

nobody says having a larger screen means a bigger, phone, and stop hating on android devices, knowing apple they can bump the screen size and maintain a slim size and hight of the iphone 4 needed, again people always think they know what they are talking about, only apple knows if a huge screen bump would compromise the retina situation.

 

[DJinTX]

question is if the cases leaked for the iphone 5 are true and it is a bigger screen what would you do then? im pretty sure you'll stick with the iphone 4 or like the people who cry foul for a bigger screen buy it up anyway because its an "apple" product.

If the rumored cases are correct, then it will totally depend on how pocketable it feels to me. If the screen seems somewhat bigger but doesn't seem to take up much more room in my pocket then there is a good chance I would get one. If on the other hand it felt too big, then I might just stick with my 3Gs for awhile longer while I re-assess the situation. There are so many possibilities right now, it is anyone's guess as to what we will see.

 

[mubo]

I love speculation just some of the ideas on here are great. right I wana 'speculate'

Iphone 4s
Same form as iPhone 4
Same 3.5 retina display
Same chip
Same ram
Same camera
8/16 Gb
To replace 3GS.


iPhone 5
Looks and feels similar to iPad e.g. alu back
Same 3.5 retina display
Faster chip
8 Mp camera
1Gb ram
16/32 Gb (due to revenue to be generated through iCloud)

Also its iPods decade anniversary which will bring a larger 4" iPod/iPad mini

Random thought here.... Was it just speculation when Apple purchased 200-300 glass cutter machines to make curved displays?


Apple will bury all the competition with a multi product release

 

[WestonHarvey1]

nobody says having a larger screen means a bigger, phone, and stop hating on android devices, knowing apple they can bump the screen size and maintain a slim size and hight of the iphone 4 needed, again people always think they know what they are talking about, only apple knows if a huge screen bump would compromise the retina situation.

I don't hate all Android devices. There are a few good ones. But I hate the super-sized form factors. They are for giants and gorillas.

 

[yrsued]

Why would someone buy your droid? That came out like 3 years ago.

Actually the one I have came out about 6 months ago, but..... Some here want to jump to Android, buy mine!!

 

[premonition23]

I don't hate all Android devices. There are a few good ones. But I hate the super-sized form factors. They are for giants and gorillas.

you want to see giants and gorillas take a look at the phones from the early 90's those sizes swamp the biggest androids out there.

 

[Sensamic]

Considering iOS has NO TRUE MULTITASKING then more RAM on the iPhone 5 is useless... What would you need it for????

Anyway, right now Im happy with my iphone 4, but when I feel the need to change or upgrade I will try Android. I already have 3 iOS devices (iphone 4, ipad and ipod touch). Why would I need or want yet another iOS device? Specially considering both the iphone 4 and ipad will run iOS 5 perfectly...

 

[CubusX]

Rumors

This site should be called MacGusses. It's not even rumors anymore.

 

[WeegieMac]

I see a pattern on here, mention the "An....." or "S" word and u get automatically voted down no matter what other good things u mention.

I understand now why FB doesnt have a dont like button

Nonsense.

Anything near "pro-Apple" is marked down no matter how well written, well thought out, and well argued the post is ... and it's the Android users on here who do it.

 

[WvB22]

Although I would like to say this can't be true I'm getting a little worried: according to multiple sources and rumors that were published before the next iPhone would be in mass production already. Why can't we see any? Now I know the iPad was kept under pretty tight wraps and only one day before it's introduction we saw some sketchy photos that turned out the be the real thing. But the iPad wasn't in mass production at that time. I can't imagine that the next iPhone is being mass produced and not a single picture leaking out. I bet security measures are tight but it can never be so tight that not a single soul can take a sneak peak. So either the next iPhone is not in mass production yet or this analyst could be right.

 

[charlituna]

So, if the point is to get existing 3GS owners w/ expiring contracts to upgrade to the new iPhone for their "new every 2," where is the incentive to do that by just speed bumping the phone? The 3GS runs everything already -- why not just wait for the iPhone 6?

The iPhone 4 was already a speed bump over the 3gs so this would be two bumps. Plus a better camera than the 3gs and the retina display. And I believe also more RAM than the 3gs

So while the 3gs might be able to do everything in iOS5, it isn't going to be as good an experience as a better phone.

 

[kiwiboi87]

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I can see the delay from two different point of views,
First iOS and iCloud. Because they would launch the new phone along the new softwear of course they would have to delay and put off shipping. Till the softwear is ready to go. And from the past betas it's not ready. So that's one reason to delay.

Second, apple could be revamping their iPhone lineup. Rather then having two models on offer like they have been. They could be pushing to three or even four, I would go with four models. A even number. Why four?? The 3GS they have not stopped making it, and it seems to be holding up alright with iOS5(from what iv heard) iPhone4, they won't stop shipping a phone after only one year. And iPhone4s the one talked about in the news post, and also a iPhone5 it would be a mad mistake for apple to not go with a full refresh. Why? Because every other phone on the market is steps ahead of the iPhone4. Their cameras screen size, power within the phone.

The design leaks are not a mistake, apple would of leaked them to give 3rd party case makers a head start.

I would expect apple to launch two new phones,

 

[Stewie86]

I think you're in the list of "Top 10 Biggest Apple Stans" on this site. Just saying.

Says the guy with pretty much every Apple product except Touch.

 

[OutSpoken]

After waiting 1.5 years for a new iPhone, they can't stiff us with an "S" model... Apple is behind all those great looking 4" Androids... Every iPhone owner admits to drool over the screen size, the thinner factor and overall look of the Android phones.
Not releasing an upgraded 4" screen iPhone with 8MP camera would be the stupidest move ever. Lots of people would be disappointed and pissed off and would definitely sell out to other platforms.
Look what happened to Final Cut Pro X. Adobe is selling 50% more Premiere software thanx to a senseless "downgrade" from the amazing Final Cut Pro 7...

You can count me out of drooling over android phones, i reckon they all look pretty horrible compared to an iphone4, especially the gigantic ones! No thanks.

If we're talking bigger screens, Ive always liked the idea of a 3.7inch screen but still keeping the handset dimensions of the iPhone4.

 

[PCClone]

Unlike most of the whiners on here, I don't care what it looks like or wether it is just the 4s. My ONLY requirement is that it runs on TMO 3g network.

 

[kmpoboy2]

You have to realized that most likely the reason for a fall release instead of June like before isn't because they were designing a whole new phone, its because Apple wants iOS 5 and iCloud to be perfect without a hickup not like the mobileme fiasco.

As it was said at the begining of WWDC; this year its all about the software.

 

[charlituna]

Apple have been used to updating phone hardware and iOS on an annual cycles. But the cycles were out of sync. The phones coming in mid-year, and iOS updates were arriving in the Fall.

Apple does what Apple wants. If Apple wants to continue doing things the way they have for the last whatever, they do. If Apple wants to change things up, they do.

Apple decided after years of announcing something huge at Macworld they weren't going to attend anymore. "But they are ALWAYS at Macworld". Apple's reply "And?"

Guess what "You always release the phone in the summer" gets another "And?"

Apple wanted to change things up for some reason or another they aren't going to tell us about. Doesn't equal a delay, an issue or anything else. Its likely just Apple doing the one thing we can always count on -- that they will do what they want to do when they want to do it and what we want, especially the very vocal we on sites like this, really don't matter in how Apple makes its choices.

 

[PCClone]

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I can see the delay from two different point of views,
First iOS and iCloud. Because they would launch the new phone along the new softwear of course they would have to delay and put off shipping. Till the softwear is ready to go. And from the past betas it's not ready. So that's one reason to delay.

Second, apple could be revamping their iPhone lineup. Rather then having two models on offer like they have been. They could be pushing to three or even four, I would go with four models. A even number. Why four?? The 3GS they have not stopped making it, and it seems to be holding up alright with iOS5(from what iv heard) iPhone4, they won't stop shipping a phone after only one year. And iPhone4s the one talked about in the news post, and also a iPhone5 it would be a mad mistake for apple to not go with a full refresh. Why? Because every other phone on the market is steps ahead of the iPhone4. Their cameras screen size, power within the phone.

The design leaks are not a mistake, apple would of leaked them to give 3rd party case makers a head start.

I would expect apple to launch two new phones,

What is softwear? Is Apple releasing a phone that looks like a comfy sweater? maybe it will be a shoe phone like Get Smart uses.

 

[mubo]

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I can see the delay from two different point of views,
First iOS and iCloud. Because they would launch the new phone along the new softwear of course they would have to delay and put off shipping. Till the softwear is ready to go. And from the past betas it's not ready. So that's one reason to delay.

Second, apple could be revamping their iPhone lineup. Rather then having two models on offer like they have been. They could be pushing to three or even four, I would go with four models. A even number. Why four?? The 3GS they have not stopped making it, and it seems to be holding up alright with iOS5(from what iv heard) iPhone4, they won't stop shipping a phone after only one year. And iPhone4s the one talked about in the news post, and also a iPhone5 it would be a mad mistake for apple to not go with a full refresh. Why? Because every other phone on the market is steps ahead of the iPhone4. Their cameras screen size, power within the phone.

The design leaks are not a mistake, apple would of leaked them to give 3rd party case makers a head start.

I would expect apple to launch two new phones,

That would be good, but, if you look at apple products they don't hold on to old tech, look at the iPad, iPod.
The one thing which people do forget is apple are very much into the environment, they want a product to last as long as possible before it ends up in the bin/trash, which is why there iOS is so clean and smooth, less processor hungry compared to droid.

Also clouds are normally in the sky...
not Apple.
http://gigaom.com/apple/apples-new-north-carolina-data-center-ready-to-roll-2/

 

[gadget123]

Finally a sensible article.

Makes sense to keep the current design as the 3GS looked the same as 3G.

I'd be delighted to buy an Iphone 5 with an 8MP camera which looks the same as the current model. Be nice to see a silver model to go with white and black.

 

[senorfrog97]

I don't hate all Android devices. There are a few good ones. But I hate the super-sized form factors. They are for giants and gorillas.

you mean the 4.3" screen phones? I know of a few girls that own one, none of which are gorillas. I have one myself and it's physically not huge - anyone with an adult sized hand can use it fine, especially after a month of use, and often times they won't ever want to go back to a smaller screen in the future.

 

[tbrinkma]

For people interested in comparisons: here's the Samsung S Galaxy 2 versus the iPhone 4:

iPhone:
Apple A4 @ 800 Mhz
512 MB RAM
PowerVR SGX 535
16/32 GB NAND

SGS2:
1.2 GHz Exynos 4210 Dual Core Cortex A9
1GB RAM
ARM Mali-400
16/32 GB NAND (requires microSD for 32)

This new iPhone might be using the A5 chip (I'm not really sure), but even if it is the SGS2 still has a faster GPU and more RAM at the very least. I don't see why anyone not completely tied to iOS would buy an iPhone.

Because even with those spec advantages, the iPhone 4 has a better user experience? It's great that the SGS2 has a bunch more horsepower, but it doesn't make good use of it, in part because Android still hasn't been properly optimized for the hardware it's running on.

 

[blackcrayon]

99.9% of the apps in the app store run just fine on a iP4 or 3GS. That will continue into the future until at least the next upgrade cycle b/c devs won't want to spec-out the iP4 user base and lose money.

And, as I said, if I have to take a picture, I'm not pulling out a phone with an LED flash. I'm getting out a real camera, with a real flash and real optical zoom. Cameras on cell phones are toys -- very fun, and good for casual picture taking, but not to be taken seriously for photography. The 3GS camera does just fine for toy photography.

I was specifically addressing the idea that a *3GS* user wouldn't see much of an upgrade. Obviously an iPhone 4 user would see considerably less of a difference. If you have to take a picture, and you're not carrying a "real" camera, you will just refuse to take it? The fact remains that an iPhone 4 takes much better "toy" pictures than the 3GS, so assuming the next camera is at least as good, it's a significant improvement. Not trying to convince you of your own preferences- just that it seems like a 3GS user will be getting a pretty big upgrade with the 5th iPhone.

 

[Smoother]

The 3GS's processor and GPU already runs all features of iOS5 and 99.9% of the games/programs in the App Store.


Most test results indicated battery life in the iP4 /iP5 was marginally better than the 3GS, nothing noticeable.


A gimmick. I've yet to encounter an iP4 user who uses his front-facing camera regularly (beyond testing it out when he first got it).


A gimmick, especially given the wifi limitation.


Nice, but worth $200 and 2 year service agreement?


I suppose if I had kids, I might care -- but I don't. The only video I shoot on my iPhone is gimmicky 10-15 second clips to send to friends.


I'm a guy. I don't feel the need to take pictures constantly just to show what an interesting life I lead to all my Facebook friends. I take pictures of funny things to send to friends, none of which require anything beyond what is already in the iPhone 4.

Add an optical zoom or a real flash and maybe I'd be interested.


You mean I too can own a phone that shatters from 3 foot drops? Fantastic!


Again -- gives no access to new iOS features, opens up no new possibilities for apps on the app store.


Does what, exactly?


I've yet to encounter an app that my 3GS couldn't download or couldn't run. When I start encountering apps like that, I'll grant you the point. But I'll all but guarantee you those kinds of apps won't start popping up so long as the iP4 remains popular.

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What jump?

iOS 5 and virtually every app on the app store already runs on the 3GS.

Let's just keep the iPhone 4 for all eternity, hell while you're at it just keep all technology. Let's just stop right here, right now lets just stop moving forwards.

If we get a new iPhone 5 which has the improvements the dude your replied to and it shows that the difference between IP5 and IP4 is like the difference between IP4/IP3GS another einstein just like you will post the same post just before the IP6 is released.

Just like all you einstein forum engineers done before the release of every iPhone.


Differences between new phones will be small, like the difference between new laptops or new car models, but since you use it constantly for 18-24 months if not more it will in the end be a big difference. And besides that new hardware = capability to create better applications. Or do you want the App-store to remain in it's current condition forever?