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The video clearly states "Faster Wireless Charging". And their press release states;

"The front and back glass design features the most durable glass ever in a smartphone with improved scratch resistance, while the glass back enables faster wireless charging. iPhone Xs and iPhone Xs Max reach a new level of splash and water resistance of IP68 for up to 2 meters for 30 minutes and protect against everyday spills including coffee, tea and soda."
Ah, wireless underwater charging, finally.
My online presence got so neglected when diving.
Now let those crummy fish envy my gold finished phone that they could never afford...
 
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Lets just say 99% of providers not support esims in phones yet! And many telecom companys have bin resisting and blocking esims for years. That will not change over night. Iphone flagship phone sales are in the toilet so apple is not pushing the telecoms any more.
If you look at the sales figures you see 47% of all phones apple sold FY 2018 are ... not new phones ...
you be amassed to know the market share of the SE with 16% was almost as big as the X with 19%.
The 8(+) models was the successful model with 34% market share do you know who came in second? with 21 % the Iphone 7 models . predictions for next year is not much better with strong Iphone 7 sales. it might even be the best seller next year with prediction of 1/4-1/3 of all sales . at 1/2 the price of a new X model Iphones i see people upgrading to the 7 a lot. especially do to the long support rolling out now days

Now if apple was selling new models with Esims like they use to with 5S and the 6 then the telco's would listen.
but my home country Holland no Esim support from any provider and many country's i go to no Esim support.
So a simcard i cant use = crap . Especially if you think there is a chinese model with dual sim working fine....
WTF would i take a esim model?.
Any way well i'm sticking with my SE , ipad LTE combo .. no X model for me.


The sales are not "in the toilet" its by far the best selling "premium" phone on the market. It easily outsells all its competitors every single year. It sure isn't selling as good as a few years back as more and more people don't feel the rush for upgrading as often and many people are content with going with previous generation of phones when upgrading. But "in the toilet" is just overstating it by a mile.

Why don't Apple just gives us 2x physical sims? Because they want to push eSIM. They have noticed that markets are slow in adopting eSIM which is a problem for devices like the Apple Watch LTE as there is just no room for a physical sim in the device.

The Apple Watch is really popular as far as smart watches go, but its not remotely close as being as popular as the iPhone so Apple is trying to use their market dominance in order to push operators into getting their head out of their rear and start supporting eSIM.

It's a great strategy and it will without any doubt make the amount of operators supporting eSIM expand tremendously over the next year. You just wait and see. In my country the two major operators have already confirmed they will be offering eSIM by the end of the year and all the smaller operators are using their networks for their own operations so eSIM will trickle down so by the end of 2019 pretty much every carrier will support it. So we are basically going from 0 to 100% in a year as soon as they new iPhone's started supporting eSIM. This sure isn't pure coincidence.
 
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Nah it would work just the same, only a bit slower. But apple needs to have differentiating factors between high prices and super high priced phones. Since most people don’t care too much about hardware specs they make software features exclusive to more expensive models.
Wuh. That mkt. nonsense was refuted in 2 minutes with an app allowing configurable Bokeh post-edits on older devices.
Bokèèhhh...!!
 
The video clearly states "Faster Wireless Charging". And their press release states;

"The front and back glass design features the most durable glass ever in a smartphone with improved scratch resistance, while the glass back enables faster wireless charging. iPhone Xs and iPhone Xs Max reach a new level of splash and water resistance of IP68 for up to 2 meters for 30 minutes and protect against everyday spills including coffee, tea and soda."

I wonder what wireless charging devices will take advantage of this. I have a Mophie one right now but I think it maxes out at 7.5w
 
  • Biggest screen on an iPhone ever
    • Sounds like something Donald Trump would say.
    • Trump secretly saved an old SE because of his small hands
  • Super durable all-glass design
    • Oxymoron
    • We even managed to make it even 5 times slippier !
  • More water and dust resistant
    • Just don't try to claim a replacement if it gets wet
    • But fish will look away from the gold finish
  • Now in Gold
    • Yay!
    • Fits your wildest tattoo’s
  • Face ID is even more advanced
    • What was wrong with it before?
    • Nothing but it was that getting through lockscreen just unnecessary complicated. To be solved in iOS12 for every device
  • Dual cameras are smarter
    • Let me up sell you to the only two models in the entire range that have these smarter cameras.
    • Relative to customers (that got sheepier)
  • Depth control
    • What?
    • Drool (abbrev.)
  • Highest quality video
    • Compared to what?
    • Worse quality
  • Smartest and most powerful chip in an iPhone
    • Well doh!, they are hardly going to put in a less powerful one. But Its not the size that matters, you should be singing the praises of what you can do with it
  • Faster wireless charging
    • Compared to who?
    • Those who didn’t buy the extra 29W charger at $69
  • Gigabit LTE
    • Yum
  • Wider stereo sound
    • Have they bought Monster cables now as well as Beats?
    • For those with 4 ears or more
 
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Highest quality video and you still can’t pause recording. I don’t get why they can’t add that.
Pssht - don’t disturb Joni.
He’s busy redesigning the volume HUD
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Love the ending of the `108 minute`video with the Tim Cook Memoji being cut off while he's talking. Ha! Ha!
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This, I'll never understand. How could someone be -disappointed- with the X's screen size? Really? "Disappointed"? Is that really the feeling? But I'm glad you have your "phablet" screen size now, so we won't hear this again. :p
He probably means “tired of screaming into an iPad Mini”
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It's the Processor. Apple insinuated that the bokeh effect is computed by the A12 and its neural engine (if I got that right). Since the A11 has a less powerful neural engine the effect wouldn't work as well.

Schilly BS. This app does it on older devices
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/focos/id1274938524?mt=8
 
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Why don't Apple just gives us 2x physical sims? Because they want to push eSIM. They have noticed that markets are slow in adopting eSIM which is a problem for devices like the Apple Watch LTE as there is just no room for a physical sim in the device.

The Apple Watch is really popular as far as smart watches go, but its not remotely close as being as popular as the iPhone so Apple is trying to use their market dominance in order to push operators into getting their head out of their rear and start supporting eSIM.

It's a great strategy and it will without any doubt make the amount of operators supporting eSIM expand tremendously over the next year. You just wait and see. In my country the two major operators have already confirmed they will be offering eSIM by the end of the year and all the smaller operators are using their networks for their own operations so eSIM will trickle down so by the end of 2019 pretty much every carrier will support it. So we are basically going from 0 to 100% in a year as soon as they new iPhone's started supporting eSIM. This sure isn't pure coincidence.

Oh, yeah. eSIM has been around for years and now it's available in...10 countries.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT209096

Spreading like wildfire!

Well, except in China, one of the most most populous nations on the planet. Or Africa, or Asia. No countries from the area with 70% of the world's population are on the list. But whatevs. Apple will change all that. Oh wait no...they're offering dual physical SIM in China...

But at least in Norway (population 5 million) eSIM is BLOWING UP! :p
 
I'm sorry, but I think you completely misunderstood my point? The fact that Apple is pushing eSIM on a massively popular device like the iPhone will drive the adoption rate of eSIM.

The devices are not even in consumers hands and you are expecting the effect of the new iPhones supporting eSIM to already show?

Lets see how many countries and how many operators supports it at the end of 2019...
 
Lets see how many countries and how many operators supports it at the end of 2019...

...and if that is the case, I might buy the 2019 or 2020 phone (if eSIM is supported by my carrier by then). But this is a business, selling a product, and with many of us, they have lost a sale that they could have had right now and not at the end of 2019 (again, *if*). I'm not going to waste my hard earned money on a product offering something that "might" work in the future, but also might not.
 
It's nice, but it's too expensive... I guess I'll upgrade like I do with my computers now, use it till it dies, they are basically the same price now.

It’s not really more expensive if you were getting the maximum storage on an iPhone in the past.

My 6S Plus with 128 GB storage cost as I recall about $1150 new when that was the maximum storage you could get (might have been $1050, been several years).

I’ve ordered a XS with 256 GB and it’s costing $1150. So twice the storage, larger screen, better fit in my hand, faster processor, etc.

I agree to keeping it as long as you can obviously, always done that. My 6S+ camera has recently developed a bad case of shaky cam and there are other annoying quirks that are forcing me to upgrade earlier than I planned, but if not for that, it’s still a great phone that I love. Will miss the fingerprint button and the earphone connector - going to be an adjustment.
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Pssht - don’t disturb Joni.
He’s busy redesigning the volume HUD
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He probably means “tired of screaming into an iPad Mini”
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Schilly BS. This app does it on older devices
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/focos/id1274938524?mt=8

That app doesn’t work on older devices with a single camera. Says you need dual camera.
 
All three phones are great phones, but I think this is the weakest upgrade cycle ever.

It's as though Apple thinks we all live the lives of beatnik Bohemians, spending our fashionably upscale, independently wealthy days taking unusually lit slow motion photographs of strangely exotic women and transgressively androgynous men. But now, what changes everything with the advent of the amazing iPhone XS, we do it with beaucoup bokeh!

The multicore benchmarks may be lower than the iPhone 8 plus, but the iPhone 8 plus doesn't have beaucoup bokeh! Bokeh changes everything! You can enter the transformative world of Bokeh today, right now, starting at only $999! Bokeh! And genuine goldtone!

Okay.

Edit: I actually am hoping that the geek bench scores may be misleadingly low. If not, the CPU upgrade is much more minor than it appears, at least until things start exploiting all the "neural" cores. Or maybe the bulk of the CPU enhancement went into extending battery life, which is a legitimate trade off.
 
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FaceID’s speed was the biggest sticking point for me last year, hence I returned it. I hope fast FaceID is on par tight TouchID 2.

I hated TouchID 1 - its the single biggest flaw when I had the iPhone 6 - ApplePay was embarrassing with TouchID 1. Its the only reason I caved and upgraded to a 7 2 years later, so when the X came out with FaceID, I just avoided it.

Although given this "upgrade" to FaceID is so soon, I'm wondering if its more like FaceID 1.5 (vs. TouchID 2) speed.

All three phones are great phones, but I think this is the weakest upgrade cycle ever.

Nope - the iPhone 7/8 series was the weakest upgrade cycles IMO, the 8 basically added wireless charging and the 7 just brought a faster processor. The 6S addressed the major issues of the lineup, so the 7/8 were terrible really.
 
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Nope - the iPhone 7/8 series was the weakest upgrade cycles IMO, the 8 basically added wireless charging and the 7 just brought a faster processor. The 6S addressed the major issues of the lineup, so the 7/8 were terrible really.

I won't quibble too much there. We both remember the days when upgrades were amazing: retina! Siri! 64 bit! Big display! Touch ID! Everything since then has seemed nice but very incremental, requiring advertising more focused on artistry than amazing new functionality. (Though I have a friend with sweaty hands who loves Face ID. :) )
 
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Many people prefer the S-cycle over the "new-cycle" due to refinement. It's almost always safer to go with the second generation of a product compared to the brand new one.
I used to think that way,but iPhone X chaned everything.
I don’t want to miss on having the latest,new design.
The S series with “Refinements” come together with the design and features that are no longer “new” or “exciting”.and within 12 months,the S series will be totally outdated when the latest greatest all new model arrives.(this doesn’t apply to original new model when S arrives)
 
Lol, yeah it kind of resembled a belly. Not the best angle of a worldly body.
 
I used to think that way,but iPhone X chaned everything.
I don’t want to miss on having the latest,new design.
The S series with “Refinements” come together with the design and features that are no longer “new” or “exciting”.and within 12 months,the S series will be totally outdated when the latest greatest all new model arrives.(this doesn’t apply to original new model when S arrives)

I think this phone design is here to stay for a few years. Color options and component tweaks will rule the day. Software is a different story. Allegedly, iOS 13 will redesign the icon grid interface which should freshen things up a bit.
 
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I don’t get these jokes. I have literally only had one cable do this and that was the cable on my iPod Nano from 9 years ago.
It happens to people who mistreat their equipment and pull the cables out by the cord or bend the cable while it's charging.
 
The XS offers quite a few upgrades over last year’s X: 4GB RAM (possibly only on the Max but purported to be on the 5.8” XS too), better camera, smarter image processing, improved display (10 bit HDR?), improved sound, gold color option, 512GB storage option, IP68 water resistance, Dual SIM capability, faster FaceID, faster wireless charging, faster CPU, up to 50% faster GPU and the machine learning neural engine co-processor goes from 2-core/600 billion operations per second to 8-core/5 trillion ops/sec—over 700% faster.

Also stronger glass, better battery life, more frequency bands (including T-Mobile's 600 MHz LTE Band 71), a faster radio (gigabit downloads) and stereo video recording via 4 microphones.

Lots of improvements, with no increase in price. Also available (for an extra $100) is a 6.5” display, instead of last year’s 5.8”.

So what exactly were you expecting that would change your opinion of the XS being a “rubbish upgrade”?

I'm sorry, but those are are refinements, not upgrades. I can't think of a year in the history of the iPhone that offered fewer reasons to upgrade from the previous year's model. Even if it's just an "s" year...

The 3Gs doubled speed and introduce video recording. The 4s introduced Siri. The 5s introduced TouchID, the 6s introduced 3D Touch, live photos and doubled RAM. The Xs is just, like I said, a refinement. How many transistors the A12 has or how many operations per second it can perform just isn't that impressive when all it really means is that apps will launch a fraction of a second later. How many people really feel that they push the hardware limits of of the 8/8 Plus/X?
 
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