Indeed, but I for one will be happy to move to USB C for my phone. But yes, it’s goi to be a challenge for that switch and I hope Apple stick with providing supplies for that changeover,
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Apple Shipping New Apple Watches Without Power Adapter, but iPad Air Includes 20W USB-C Charger
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what's the difference if it's a cable or the adapter tho? if you own a watch already, then why would it be absolutely insane to you?
It’s not just the cost it’s the resources used to make them in the first place and then to recycle them when they stop being used.
And when those users eventually retire these gadgets, those chargers accumulate. There just needs to be a way to return a few of them back to you. One way to achieve this is to ask the people getting the devices from you whether they actually need the charger. Another is of course eBay.
Yes. The cable that comes with the watch has a USB A plug. You can get charging cables for the watch with USB C plugs if you wish, but that's a separate purchase. Power draw is so low with the watch charging that just about any USB port will work. My watch charger is plugged into the USB port on my old ipod-capable alarm clock on the nightstand. I take my watch off at bedtime and it charges while I sleep.
Edit - there's also a short-cable Apple Watch charging disc you can buy. I keep one in my travel-charging-stuff bag with the other cables needed to charge all my stuff from a 4-port charger.
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Tell that to GoPro, Fitbit, Garmin, Jaybird and countless others.
That's true.. but the problem for me is that you still have to get 1 adapter for your laptop, 1 for your tablet, 1 for your phone (possibly the same as either the tablet, or the same as the watch) and 1 for your watch, as they are all different wattage ratings?
That's one way, sure. I'll do that when I'm selling the ones I have now.
With 5W chargers costing all of $5 in stores like Target, you can't sell your extras on ebay for enough to be worth bothering. Bubble envelope and postage would cost more than you'd sell it for.
Sad face for the 5 or 6 macrumors members who don’t have a drawer full of various Apple chargers, or don’t own anything with a usb charging port.
Devices draw only as much current (wattage) as they desire/need. Even if the charger is capable of providing substantially more.
"You ship it with a power adapter, so wasteful, get environmentally friendly already"
"You ship it without a power adapter? what a crock"
"You ship it without a power adapter? what a crock"
Uhh, you don’t understand how chargers work.
it's kinda like the argument of "environmental waste", but every other device uses usb-c except the iPhone. They don't mind you having 55 cables sitting around, but man, 1 extra adapter is gonna kill the environment!
I’ve sold accessories for €2 a pop on eBay (though the new version did cost about €15 for that product).
You are clearly a MacRumors veteran.
No matter what Apple does, someone's gonna whine about it.
Really, from what to what? seems the same. $399 to $399. You are comparing it to the Series 5?Watch price increase too
I'm genuinely shocked at the commentary on here. My opinion is that no electronic device should come with cables. Use what you have on hand, and if you don't have it then buy it. I scrapped four or five pounds of cables last year for copper, and I'm still finding them. I bought a monitor and now have extra an HDMI and Displayport cables that I didn't need and are too short for my setup; I would've had to buy different ones even if I didn't have them.
I don't use an Apple-provided charger for any device I own (except the laptop). Even the 18W charger that came with my 11 Pro is still sitting in the box unused.
To the people making car wheel, and shirt button analogies, please take a moment to consider the difference between an external accessory and a component permanently required to be attached for operation. Those analogies would only make sense if Apple stopped including speakers in the phone, and you had to install them if you wanted sound. If you need a car analogy, it would be more like if you automatically received a new 240v wall-mount charger with a new plug-in electric car.
Maybe someone would complain that electric cars should come with 240v chargers since they need electricity to operate. And I'd say, well your gas car needs fuel to run so why weren't you whining that you should be able to pump gas from your own house? And then we'd digress into the semantics of the analogy instead of the actual issue, which is that electronics manufacturers should've stopped including cables and chargers years ago (and I would go so far as to support legislation to that effect). I can give you a thousand examples of things that must be bought together to function, so please find something more productive to complain about.
I don't use an Apple-provided charger for any device I own (except the laptop). Even the 18W charger that came with my 11 Pro is still sitting in the box unused.
To the people making car wheel, and shirt button analogies, please take a moment to consider the difference between an external accessory and a component permanently required to be attached for operation. Those analogies would only make sense if Apple stopped including speakers in the phone, and you had to install them if you wanted sound. If you need a car analogy, it would be more like if you automatically received a new 240v wall-mount charger with a new plug-in electric car.
Maybe someone would complain that electric cars should come with 240v chargers since they need electricity to operate. And I'd say, well your gas car needs fuel to run so why weren't you whining that you should be able to pump gas from your own house? And then we'd digress into the semantics of the analogy instead of the actual issue, which is that electronics manufacturers should've stopped including cables and chargers years ago (and I would go so far as to support legislation to that effect). I can give you a thousand examples of things that must be bought together to function, so please find something more productive to complain about.
I have a series 0 that stopped syncing with my phone last year, and the screen popped off due to battery bloat last week
Oh certainly possible - but even if I sold something for $2 or $3, the cost to ship it would tend to be so near the net proceeds after ebay and paypal fees that it's simply easier to toss it in the drawer with the couple dozen others 5W USB chargers. One of these days I'll throw all that in a bag and drop it off at Goodwill or something.
If it were really just about the packaging and waste, they could not include the power adapter but offer one free to anyone that needs one.