Of course, but where do you draw the line? I'm sure that you can buy a product and still not being lectured. The fact that Apple (and other companies) stand for what is right shouldn't really effect you.
I believe its right to stand up and speak. I think that is probably the best way to achieve better things in life.
I imagine they do. It would be pretty hypocritical if they didn't.Legitimate question...does Apple allow transgender people to use whatever restroom they want in its buildings?
How is Apple lecturing you?When you pay your hard earned money for a show and than be lectured on politics such as Wanda Sykes & Amy Schumer. That DOES effect consumers. Audiences booed than started to leave.
How can you equate liberals with not voting? Nonsense.
Didn't the democrats win the popular vote by a couple of million or does that not matter because you are up to your ears in alternative facts at this point.
It's not denial, we got over it. Now we are dealing with the beginnings of a dictatorship. Enjoy.
Can we agree that when a politician of any party says that they're going to leave important issues to the state to decide that it is generally their way of punting? They either don't want to deal with the issue, want to transfer the weight of making the decision to the states, or are using it as a convenient excuse to defend what is generally indefensible.
Do we honestly believe that human rights issues shouldn't be ruled on at the highest levels of government? We seem fairly keen to have other issues like abortion decided by the Supreme Court, but transgender rights are a state isssue?
Let's not argue our opinions on the issue for a moment and agree that punting to states is not the appropriate corse of action here.
How can you equate liberals with not voting? Nonsense.
Didn't the democrats win the popular vote by a couple of million or does that not matter because you are up to your ears in alternative facts at this point.
It's not denial, we got over it. Now we are dealing with the beginnings of a dictatorship. Enjoy.
Can we agree that deciding what bathroom someone uses only became an important human rights issue just a few months ago?
Nope. The education of students...all students, is everyone's responsibility to speak up about. They are our future.
If Trump can comment on Apple products (which he did) then I see no reason why Apple cannot do the reverse.
Are you kidding me. We are talking about freaking bathrooms. BATHROOMS. There isn't a thread of hate in believing that if you have a penis, you use the men's restroom. And the opposite for women. It is delusional to call that belief "discriminatory, prejudice, hateful," etc. Give me a break.
And why is Apple getting in the middle of this? Another poster said (and I agree with this) that Apple needs to stay out of this mess. Conservative, Democrat, doesn't matter. Apple should make products, not political statements -- a notion that Steve Jobs subscribed to.
Can we agree that deciding what bathroom someone uses only became an important human rights issue just a few months ago? By the way, who exactly is performing these inspections and how many tranny's have been put in jail for entering the wrong bathroom?
In the grand scheme when we look at unemployment, economy, people going out to live life and not coming home because they got blown away at work or a night club, high crime in cities, etc are a much higher priority on the totem pole than where Bruce Jenner can tinkle?
At this point what did we expect? So predictable. Does anybody (in the world) honestly have any doubts as to Apples political leanings? Apple is very socially liberal and expects everyone to capitulate to their world view.
Nope. The education of students...all students, is everyone's responsibility to speak up about. They are our future.
If Trump can comment on Apple products (which he did) then I see no reason why Apple cannot do the reverse.
Except if you live outside the United States.
Then Apple is PERFECTLY fine with you stoning women to death, throwing gays off rooftops, and making homosexuality illegal.
Tim Cook doesn't have what it takes to stand up to the muslim states or to China. He bends over and takes it from those countries.
Yeah... I saw one of those on a news story in a NYC Street. I think it would be good for wanna-be exhibitionists that have a bit of a worry about being caught.I know one restaurant where the bathroom walls are one way mirrors. You can't look in, but you can look out. Seriously. It's weird. People walk around and check if it is possible to look in before using these toilets. Should help with claustrophobes![]()
The point being made is that this isn't really about bathrooms. It's about how we treat people that are different than us. That's why emotions are running high and it is an issue that has garnered attention.
I concur that there are many issues that need to be addressed, but it isn't my place to tell a transgendered person that they don't matter because we have to focus on corporate tax structures instead.
The main issue at hand is that we, as a society, are not taking the time to understand who these people are and what is important to them. Instead, we try to apply our own standards to their lives and tell them to deal with it - which, ironically, is also what conservatives fear about liberals and the government. So really, we all have the same opinion, but apply it unevenly. That's the issue at hand.
Maybe Apple has bathrooms, some transgender employees, and a conscience (or at least a desire for them not to have to worry about where to pee).
Alienate all you want, Apple. Stupid is stupid. There's politics, and there is Right. Apple has the cash reserves to be Right.
They're still men or women, they can't change that regardless of how much they wish, whatever drugs or operations they have. It's a psychological condition, sometimes the parents fault, and it's also partly down to being trendy. I find it insulting when they are referred to as the opposite sex, they aren't
Yes, the middle of the country and south decided for the more populous costal sections.How do you figure they did that? The west coast and upper east coast voted Clinton which was 20 states and DC. Almost the entire rest of the country (30 states) voted Trump.
Then we are headed for a whole lot of trouble in the future.Unfortunately, a perfect way to vote with a country as large as the US and as broken up into states as the US, does not exist
No no no....Donald Trump is an example of someone corrupt. Cook is not.I did say Tim Cook is corrupt
No, it's exactly what was stated...the number of people won in ususally reliable blue states. Take those 77,000 people out of the equation and he would have lost. Thus that is the margin he won by: a measly football stadium worth.That's if you ignore all the previously hard democrat states Trump also won in the election.
The only reason this is a "thing" is because people need to find something to get upset about. There is absolutely no reason at all for this to be a national issue. Let the infinitesimally small number of schools decide how they want to handle the issue. You don't need a federal mandate for this nonsense.
This is a trendy chic issue to get up in arms over because it involves sexuality. If you are concerned for human rights, it would make much more sense to advocate better working conditions for fishermen (as an example). It would impact a hell of a lot more people than some federal law telling people where they need to take a steaming dump. But nobody gives a rats ass about fishermen, so they are on their own.
We're talking about his reaction to a legaL change made in the United States. The "tu quoque" argument is fundamentally meaningless.
There should be a blood tester in front of every bathroom. Your finger gets pricked, and blood gets drawn. If the chromosomes don't match, then you can't enter. Problem solved!
No counter then, huh? I'm not presenting a formal argument in debate class. I'm calling the guy a damn hypocrite (which he obviously is).
Funny how Cook doesn't have the stones to speak out against *actual* human rights atrocities in all of the countries Apple does business in.
The guy is a total joke.
So you change the subject. You can't talk about the topic, so you make up something you would rather talk about. Not the topic under conversation. It's called "trolling."
The "Bad things are happening in other countries so why are we trying to change things here?" argument.So Apple supports women getting stoned to death in the middle east?
So Apple supports rampant civil rights violations and human rights violations in China?
So Apple supports homosexuality being ILLEGAL in countries they do business?
Coward Cook hasn't opened his mouth on any of those issues, as far as I'm aware. He only grows a spine when he can virtue signal to his liberal base about nonsense like federal pissing laws.