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Apple Speaks Out Against Trump Order to Rescind Protections for Transgender Students
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I don't understand this logic. Why didn't they vote? Can somebody tell me the reason why they didn't. And if they didn't, then shouldn't they just shut up and accept the result? It's like you didn't participate in a competition, but then start screaming and shouting and burning things because the person you wanted to win, didn't win the competition. What rubbish!
You make too much sense
and I agree with the logic. Either way none of that bothers me as I am pretty tolerant to human shortcomings.I used to work at a place in the late 60s with a female, who wanted to be a man. "He" used the men's bath room at the company, however the stalls.
But, every time "he" was visible men entering the toilets would just leave as they were not feeling comfortable.
So, whose right is more important? The person who wants to "feel" different and considers him/herself transgendered or the person who wants everything biologically perfect and doesn't feel comfortable?
Maybe we should all hold it in and only go at home!
I know of one who isn't a man, but an orange. And that one got elected as US president.
Seriously, I am planet Earth. You seem to be on some black and white planet where everything is always the same. Life is more interesting than you could imagine.
For those that aren't aware, Sean Spicer is on the record saying that President Trump wants to put these decisions back in the hands of states instead of it being the federal government's decision. That's the fairest compromise if you ask me.
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Are people still making the orange jokes? Come on now.
1) Trump campaigned knowing the laws of the United States dictated that popular count does not matter. It does not matter for a few very wise reasons. Read about our founding fathers concerns and a little history. There is nothing to say that a change in Trumps campaign to handle a popular vote would not have resulted in a Trump win anyway.
2) Several states don't count absentee ballots unless the total of the absentee ballots is likely to sway the election. History indicates that absentee ballots generally go in favor of Republicans, even in Democrat populated areas. So a number of Republican votes were not counted.
3) Democrats pay for and encourage non-citizens, dead people, and other false voting. Its the only way they can get their agenda passed. Why do you think that every Democrat supports voting without a picture ID. Clue, it has nothing to do with fairness.
No he does not. I thought that's what he proved by rescinding the order. Obama showed that he had an authority where people "drop a deuce".
He won based in the law of the land. That is not a technicality. History is ripe with popular mentality being both misguided and outright wrong. Read a little history.
theregister had an article about how Trump had announced he wanted to improve cyber security for government agencies. That would something entirely reasonable to do, and I couldn't see Apple giving anything but strong agreement to it. Well, we are waiting for that one...
Because the justice department refused to investigate for 8 years. Wonder why?
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And anyone that does not support this effort to identify and fix voter fraud is simply anti-american. Period. Non-citizens do NOT have the right to influence our laws, taxes, and politicians.
Why is it OK for a company to speak to their beliefs and not sell a customer a cake but when Apple speaks out they should just shut up and make their dumb products.
If you don't care about transgender rights then you don't deserve any rights.
Why not just go to unisex bathrooms? Have some Ally McBeal-inspired dancing
In all seriousness, while I understand there have been pervs out there, I don't care if you're a boy or girl. As long as we just go to the bathroom, respect each other's privacy, who the **** cares?
In all seriousness, while I understand there have been pervs out there, I don't care if you're a boy or girl. As long as we just go to the bathroom, respect each other's privacy, who the **** cares?
Here we go again. Stick to making consumer products.
Yep. I have no issues with Apple speaking out against immigration and other issues that affect the companies manufacturing of products. I do however see no reason for Apple to speak out on this issue.
LOL! LOL! LOL! (thrice, equally loud.)Only 400...??
It appears that the Shadow under-estimated the churn.
I already run out of pop-corn. This may become an all-time record thread. 800? 1,000?, until the steam disperses.
My view: It is what is it, because the three federal branches, and most state legislatures, are aligned red. It is effectively government without any checks and balances. LOL!
Thankfully, the Constitution doesn't have the same litmus test you do for determining whether or not someone has rights.
I care about transgender people's Constitutional rights the same as I care about anyone's Constitutional rights. The Constitution says nothing about bathroom rights. Using whatever bathroom you want based on the gender you "feel" you are or the gender you "feel" you should have been is not a Constitutional right.
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Both sides have committed voter fraud, not just Democrats. Something I'd like to know is how easy is it to get a photo id, especially in poorer neighborhoods? Some Democrat friends of mine say that some states have closed down offices in poorer neighborhoods where people can get IDs, making the poor have to go farther. Not sure if true. I'd be up for voter IDs if those IDs were reasonably easy to get.
That's a ridiculous comparison. States rights has always been a cornerstone of our republic and it's slowly being chipped away at stupid things like this bathroom crap. Nobody is being burned at the stake, nobody is being put into slavery. Equating this to human rights is just idiotic and stupid. Just go into the damn bathroom, do your business and get the hell out. The sign on the door is just a sign. That's it! How hard is that?
Really, there are no "protections" per se. They were recommendations by the DoE. The DoE has no actual juris-my-diction over what happens in local schools, at least when it comes to bathroom-level issues.
I'm not white, I'm mixed race, and have faced my own share of problems that I'll not sideline the thread with. Also as a female I live all my life with the fear of being targeted for sexual assault and sexism overall and fear the same for transgendered females as well, by the way. That's why I'm not against sharing the ladies room with a transgendered lady. I'm just wishing and hoping for a way to do so in a way that will diminish both our vulnerability to predators. Alas, that "easy way" won't be feasible in every situation.
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It's BECAUSE I'm worried that the rights you seek will be overturned with the stroke of a pen, that I don't want to rely on something as flimsy as an executive order to decide these matters.
The black rights you reference have been fought for state by state, over GENERATIONS, to gain the backing and critical mass they needed to become secured in a permanent and enduring basis in our laws up to the federal level. And they are still being firmed up, with much progress left to accomplish. Same as with the rights of the disabled.
That is how our system has worked and how it was designed to work. Our country at its founding was recognized to NOT be one homogeneous population but a coming together of colonies that were diverse in origin and character. Some started as colonies of Catholics fleeing oppression. Or as Protestants doing the same. Some started as commercial ventures.
The system was also designed to let people freely enter and leave the communities that best matched their values and lifestyle choices.
The system was also supposed to be a mixed of populist and elite ideals. Hence the popular vote and the electoral voting system. And it was supposed to take its direction from the people. The chief executive was not meant to dictate to the people. We speak through our elected representatives.
The reason the system seems so effed up is we gave our corporations the rights of people. It has now become "of the lobbysists, by the lobbyists and for the corporations" more than the man or woman on the street, unfortunately.
That's why I really do not like a person conflating their identity with that of a corporation. The corporation has vast wealth and influence at its beck and call. That's all well and good when the corporation has humanitarian values. But what about Nestle? The head of Nestle has embroiled himself and Nestle in a lot of controversy over who has rights to water. What about Monsanto, who routinely tries to trounce the rights of people to be free of GMO garbage in their diets.
Like it or not, the kind of change you seek is a process and takes generations to accomplish. The millennial generation is good at fast tracking change and future generations will be as well, but change is always going to be a messy time consuming business when it involves human beings who are free and not under mind control.
I don't know how old you are but I'm 50 and see the progress LGBT rights have made in my lifetime. It's particularly impressive when you consider how small a percentage of the entire population of the country the LGBT community comprises.
Meanwhile LGBT have been effective at establishing communities, even entire cities supportive to their needs. I should know because I lived in one for many years. It is horrible that people might feel compelled to leave their hometowns to find a compatible environment, but people of all diverse kinds have been doing so since there has been a country. Others choose to fight for change and a place in their community, knowing it will be a hard struggle, but worth it.
If you want the Feds to take power to quickly and cleanly confer rights upon you, fine, but don't be surprised when they take that power and do something you don't agree with. Something horrific.
It's far better to have all of us rise up through our legislators and our courts to ASSERT our human rights. Not beg, bug or bully one President, who may or may not be mentally healthy, to do so for us. And better to do so as people, not corporations. We need to take our personhood back from companies.
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Trump simply made this a state's right issue. As it should be. Nothing was banned, nothing was restricted, nothing was threatened or taken away or given. Simply, if CA wants to make this a law then so be it, if TX does not want to, so be it. Let the state speak for themselves on where people can urinate. The Feds have greater issues to tackle.
Alienate all you want, Apple. Stupid is stupid. There's politics, and there is Right. Apple has the cash reserves to be Right.