Apple Speaks Out Against Trump Order to Rescind Protections for Transgender Students

[Keirasplace]

Logical fallacy. That would imply that those who did not vote knew that Trump was going to win, so they didn't vote. The reality is, by not voting, they neither supported Trump nor Hillary. There is no logical conclusion where a non-vote is a vote for either candidate. Your argument is severely flawed.

All you can say is "25% of Americans voted for trump." That's it.

Or most people don't give a **** about politics until their head is the actual vise and blood is spurting.

Complete complacency, ignorance and lazyness will be the death of us all, well before malice .

For those people, actual Hitler and the best candidate ever put on paper (whatever your definition of that is) could be candidates on each side and they wouldn't go voting anyway!!

That's probably closer than anything to what actually happened.

There are people
- 1) Who always vote.
- 2) People who vote when they're "energized" (tm)
- 3) And people who only vote they got a gun to their temple (these are usually non voters for many many elections)

Most time it is number #2 in the right states that decide elections.

That's one hell of a small group of people.

 

[iphone1027]

Quoting a right wing nut job site that proclaims something is not evidence. If you can't provide something that would hold up in court, then you aren't providing anything at all. Just smoke.

You cannot provide hard evidence because there isn't any. Come back when you actually have some real hard numbers and real hard proof. Not estimates. Not hopes and wishes. Not claims. But actual evidence that would stand up in a court of law.

So you can label what you want, in your favor of course, still doesn't change the facts. Come back with a reasonable statement.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

Exactly. I, a straight adult male, don't have the right to go into a restroom full of girls and women and expect them to think it's totally normal. I don't have that right, nor do I have any desire or expectation to have that right. But I guess if I tell them "Don't worry, ladies, I'm transgender", that's somehow supposed to make it alright?

No, it would not be normal for you as a straight non-transgender male to be in a woman's restroom. However, it is for this person to be:

So no simply flipping those 3 states is NOT the only reason he won, you have to count all the other states he won as w

Wow. Again? You still don't get it? The margin of victory and where his win came from was specifically those states. Red states were already voting for him..duh. And blue states mostly were voting blue. But where Trump made a difference was by flipping three normally blue states to red. That is where his victory came from. 77,000 people in three normally blue states.

 

[iphone1027]

GWB won 44% of Latino vote in 2004 and you heard none of these conspiracy theories about voter fraud.

This is just another way to dehumanize a group of people and drive a wedge. Keep believing what you want, but mass voter fraud is a cooked up fairy tale. Didn't happen in 2004. Didn't happen in 2016.

Don't go off track. We're not talking about the Latino vote. We're talking about the undocumented illegal vote.

 

[avanpelt]

No, it would not be normal for you as a straight non-transgender male to be in a woman's restroom. However, it is for this person to be:

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Please go back and look at what I was replying to, which was a quote from Robert Green Ingersoll stating, "Tolerance is giving every other human being every right that you claim for yourself."

 

[Keirasplace]

Regarding your signature line which reads, "remember Bowling Green, remember Sweden"...

Yes, I do remember Trump recently making a comment about "what is going on in Sweden". Here is an example of the type of violence he was talking about, it has been going on for a couple of years and it is
"The situation in the gang-controlled no-go zones of Sweden is deteriorating rapidly. Following the police report conceding the areas to the primarily Muslim immigrant gangs, the Swedish ambulance union is now demanding military grade protection gear to enter the no-go zones."
http://dailycaller.com/2014/11/14/m...-terrorize-55-neighborhoods-police-powerless/

As for Kellyanne Conway (not Trump) mistakenly saying Bowling Green when she meant another University in Ohio, I don't consider that any worse of a mistake than when Obama claimed to have campaigned in 57 states (link below). Virtually everyone who speaks frequently in front of cameras makes mistakes but it seems those mistakes are only newsworthy if they are made by Republicans.

Give me a break buddy. She "mistook" saying it 3 times in different forums/shows. She should resign if she's that incompetent.

And Trump doesn't WTF he's talking about; he was quoting a right wing doc on Fox.
There are some issues, but none at the level he's talking about nor you.

The dailycaller is an extreme right wing source, so cut the crap.
You are basically a dishonest fabricator, just like your idol.

 

[scjr]

Exactly. I, a straight adult male, don't have the right to go into a restroom full of girls and women and expect them to think it's totally normal. I don't have that right, nor do I have any desire or expectation to have that right. But I guess if I tell them "Don't worry, ladies, I'm transgender", that's somehow supposed to make it alright?

Do you even understand what you're saying? You're a male, so hopefully you will use the male restroom. Your scenario is ridiculous. If a transgender person identifies as a male, they will use the male restroom. You argue this as though a transgender person has a different motive to use a rest room.

Honestly, why does this even matter to you? Does it bother you that much? Do two men loving each other and wanting to get married bother you? Who cares. We are a country that should embrace diversity. That's the point of the quote. Maybe the problem is closer to home than you think.

 

[Keirasplace]

Don't go off track. We're not talking about the Latino vote. We're talking about the undocumented illegal vote.

There is no undocumented illegal vote so no, there is no need for discussion about that, just like there is no need to discuss unicorns or Trump's intelligence.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

So you can label what you want, in your favor of course, still doesn't change the facts. Come back with a reasonable statement.

Again come back with some facts. You still have none.

How in the world can you be born with the wrong body.

Stuff happens. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite

As for Kellyanne Conway (not Trump) mistakenly saying Bowling Green when she meant another University in Ohio, I don't consider that any worse of a mistake than when Obama claimed to have campaigned in 57 states (link below). Virtually everyone who speaks frequently in front of cameras makes mistakes but it seems those mistakes are only newsworthy if they are made by Republicans.

Unlike Trump she made this claim day after day in three seperate interviews. It wasn't that she was tired or simply mispoke. I will continue to point out this administration's stupid blunders like this...because they are quite funny. That sig line will just keep getting bigger I suspect.
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Please go back and look at what I was replying to, which was a quote from Robert Green Ingersoll stating, "Tolerance is giving every other human being every right that you claim for yourself."

I'm well aware of what you were replying to. Which doesn't change my point at all. Do you think the person I showed a photo of should be in the men's room?

 

[scjr]

Don't go off track. We're not talking about the Latino vote. We're talking about the undocumented illegal vote.

And the current administration is building a wall where? It's just an attempt to drive a wedge. Just because Trump spouts off that millions voted illegally, doesn't make it true. It isn't true. Never has been true. Unless you're claiming those millions of illegal votes came from some other group?

 

[iphone1027]

Again come back with some facts. You still have none.

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-3-million-votes-cast-illegals-presidential-election/
And

http://www.independentsentinel.com/3-million-illegal-aliens-voted-in-the-presidential-election/

Stuff happens. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermaphrodite



Unlike Trump she made this claim day after day in three seperate interviews. It wasn't that she was tired or simply mispoke. I will continue to point out this administrations stupid blunders like this...because they are quite funny. That sig line will just keep getting bigger I suspect.
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I'm well aware of what you were replying to. Which doesn't change my point at all. Do you think the person I showed a photo of should be in the men's room?

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And the current administration is building a wall where? It's just an attempt to drive a wedge. Just because Trump spouts off that millions voted illegally, doesn't make it true. It isn't true. Never has been true. Unless you're claiming those millions of illegal votes came from some other group?

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And the current administration is building a wall where? It's just an attempt to drive a wedge. Just because Trump spouts off that millions voted illegally, doesn't make it true. It isn't true. Never has been true. Unless you're claiming those millions of illegal votes came from some other group?

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-3-million-votes-cast-illegals-presidential-election/

http://www.independentsentinel.com/3-million-illegal-aliens-voted-in-the-presidential-election/

 

[Keirasplace]

How in the world can you be born with the wrong body. Liberals will say ANYTHING these days just to cause a stir.

What's next? I was born on the wrong planet and I actually belong on mars?

Ignorance is not a strength, get informed or stop talking. Got that. Simple isn't.

I guess this "woman" (sic) (see image below) should just go in the woman's bathroom hey, no problem.... Perfectly logical.
This is what a trans man looks like, yes, they do exist and there are plenty of them.

 

[iphone1027]

And the current administration is building a wall where? It's just an attempt to drive a wedge. Just because Trump spouts off that millions voted illegally, doesn't make it true. It isn't true. Never has been true. Unless you're claiming those millions of illegal votes came from some other group?

Apparently you don't know what a Latino is if you're just referring to where Trump is building a wall.

 

[DougFNJ]

And Trump doesn't WTF he's talking about; he was quoting a right wing doc on Fox.
There are some issues, but none at the level he's talking about nor you.

The dailycaller is an extreme right wing source, so cut the crap.
You are basically a dishonest fabricator, just like your idol.

That's always the liberal go to...."you got that info from a right wing source!" Unfortunately that accounts for about 3% of the media, the rest of the 97% has a liberal agenda and unfortunately for ALL of us, we don't have any actual legitimate non biased neutral news sources to actually get facts from about pretty much anything. It's throwing stories against the wall and retract in small writing the stuff that doesn't stick.

And by the way, were there not riots in Sweden in immigrant neighborhoods just 2 days after Trump mentioned that article? I believe a simple search on Google will give you all news sources reporting that information, yet not bring light of any of it to the mention by Trump 2 days earlier that there are issues in Sweden.

 

[DoctorTech]

To be fair, the Koch brothers (of Koch Industries), were gigantic funders of the Tea Party movement which to this day continues to infect all levels of state and federal government.

Koch Industries has, among other things, interests in oil refining. Yet their Tea Party movement determines policies on just about every aspect of government from things that directly impact Koch Industries (clean energy initiatives) to things that are completely unrelated (gay marriage).

By comparison, Apple is benign. They don't have operatives embedded up and down all levels of government.

Obama's former head of the EPA (Lisa P. Jackson) now reports directly to Tim Cook. I walked out of keynote she was giving at a conference in New Orleans last June when she started complaining about how federal courts kept over turning everything she was doing when she ran the EPA.

Tim Cook has increased Apple's spending on Washington lobbyist by 350% compared to what Steve Jobs was spending on lobbyists ($3.5 million / year under Cook vs $1 million / year under Jobs). https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2016/01/apples-appetite-for-washington-influence-keeps-growing/

 

[avanpelt]

I'm well aware of what you were replying to. Which doesn't change my point at all. Do you think the person I showed a photo of should be in the men's room?

If the person in that photo was in junior high or high school (which is the real crux of the debate), yes, they should be in the men's room. There's a big difference between a 14 year old who thinks they're transgender and a 30 year old who has actively taken steps to alter their body to assume the opposite gender.

 

[Keirasplace]

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http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-3-million-votes-cast-illegals-presidential-election/

http://www.independentsentinel.com/3-million-illegal-aliens-voted-in-the-presidential-election/

Again, no proof. Produce it from some reputable org or ****.

 

[iphone1027]

Again, no proof. Produce it from some reputable org or ****.

So from a fake liberal source. Again, if it's not a source blessed by the liberals or leans to your thinking then it's wrong. Well then, based on that mentality, your argument is false as well. Produce a counter.

 

[scjr]

http://dennismichaellynch.com/report-3-million-votes-cast-illegals-presidential-election/

http://www.independentsentinel.com/3-million-illegal-aliens-voted-in-the-presidential-election/

Greg Phillips? This guy has been discredit. He's a total fraud. Alex Jones from InfoWars, who any sane person will say is a crackpot, loves this guy and was pushing his bile. There are ZERO credible studies that indicate mass voter fraud has been a problem. Believe what you want, but it doesn't exist. If it makes you feel better, go full Alex Jones.

 

[uknowimright]

people that keep bringing up this voter fraud ******** have to be mentally ill

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

If the person in that photo was in junior high or high school (which is the real crux of the debate), yes, they should be in the men's room. There's a big difference between a 14 year old who thinks they're transgender and a 30 year old who has actively taken steps to alter their body to assume the opposite gender.

Ah, but you don't have to wait until you're 30 before taking some active steps to acknowledge who you are and live your life accordingly:

http://www.freedomforallamericans.org/jessica-and-her-daughter-ally/

And there are many children in the same situation. Transgender doesn't begin at 30. Just like gay or straight do not. I knew when I was 5.
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people that keep bringing up this voter fraud ******** have to be mentally ill

I'm okay with them bringing it up, but they have to present actual evidence that would withstand a court hearing, not merely present unsubstantiated allegations. Anyone can do that about anything. I can say that bigfoot is real and present a blurry photo of someone in a gorilla suit, but that's not actual proof of anything.

 

[Keirasplace]

That's always the liberal go to...."you got that info from a right wing source!" Unfortunately that accounts for about 3% of the media, the rest of the 97% has a liberal agenda and unfortunately for ALL of us, we don't have any actual legitimate non biased neutral news sources to actually get facts from about pretty much anything. It's throwing stories against the wall and retract in small writing the stuff that doesn't stick.

And by the way, were there not riots in Sweden in immigrant neighborhoods just 2 days after Trump mentioned that article? I believe a simple search on Google will give you all news sources reporting that information, yet not bring light of any of it to the mention by Trump 2 days earlier that there are issues in Sweden.

Anyone calling the actual media "liberal" when they gave 4 billion dollar of free publicity to Trump's clown antics and carried his sac of crap Florida rally live last week is living in space.

Facts are facts and if those 90% no reputation publications can't source their crap it's false and fabricated.
They're not given any benefits of the doubt cause they got no reputation to even stand on.
Your new Goebbels Conway even called what they produced, "alternate facts"
and Trump said anything that disagreed with him was fake!
Good grief! How can I even take anything you say seriously.

As for Sweden, Trump said something way worse than reality and used
a newscast as information; so no candy for the idiot.
The situation is a lot more nuanced than what he's capable of.
People in actual Sweden called him a moron.

I also knew about the "riot"; there were 30-40 people burning a few cars.
Only made international news because of Trump's prior statement
That's it. The last actual real riot was in 2013.

I guess when there are mass shootings in the US by whites, which happens very often,
I will have to conclude that there is a big white problem huh?
The biggest mass murder by far in Scandinavia was created by a white supremacist....

BTW, Trump didn't even mention a mass killing of Muslim by a white supremacist in Canada!! Conveniently escaped his mind. Around here, yeah, we do have a hate problem and it's all coming from people like you.

 

[Beachguy]

Can people not do math anymore? He won by flipping three blue states, a margin of only just over 77,000 people. If those mere 77,000 people had not voted for him, he would not have won. It's really quite simple. Margin margin margin. All about the margin.

Had the moon been made of bleu cheese, we could all have sandwiches. But the fact is, those 77,000 DID vote for Trump.

 

[iphone1027]

Greg Phillips? This guy has been discredit. He's a total fraud. Alex Jones from InfoWars, who any sane person will say is a crackpot, loves this guy and was pushing his bile. There are ZERO credible studies that indicate mass voter fraud has been a problem. Believe what you want, but it doesn't exist. If it makes you feel better, go full Alex Jones.

Site where he has been discredited.

 

[uknowimright]

Ah, but you don't have to wait until you're 30 before taking some active steps to acknowledge who you are and live your life accordingly:

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http://www.freedomforallamericans.org/jessica-and-her-daughter-ally/

And there are many children in the same situation. Transgender doesn't begin at 30. Just like gay or straight do not. I knew when I was 5.
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I'm okay with them bringing it up, but they have to present actual evidence that would withstand a court hearing, not merely present unsubstantiated allegations. Anyone can do that about anything. I can say that bigfoot is real and present a blurry photo of someone in a gorilla suit, but that's not actual proof of anything.

Yeah if they can show me ACTUAL proof awesome